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Post by tranmereforever on Nov 20, 2020 20:00:38 GMT 1
Hi all,
Paul Hurst is being strongly linked with a move to us to be appointed next week
Just wondering what your thoughts on him are? Style of play etc
We have a very good squad for league two - better than we had in league one last season- so he will have some talent to work with
Hopefully he can get more out of them than Jackson managed
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 20:13:36 GMT 1
Hi all, Paul Hurst is being strongly linked with a move to us to be appointed next week Just wondering what your thoughts on him are? Style of play etc We have a very good squad for league two - better than we had in league one last season- so he will have some talent to work with Hopefully he can get more out of them than Jackson managed in short, he'll go 1-0 up, take the ball in the corner and then run off with your wife and kids ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 20:24:42 GMT 1
You'll get a split opinion because of the way he left us, however most people (except one or two) recognise that he gave us our best season for many a year, even if we did come up short in the end.
Based on what he did with us, expect a number of signings that you are underwhemlmed with as they appear lower leage journeyman on face value, however he will get them well organised, fit and they will run through brick walls for each. He likes wingers and tended to play a 4-5-1 with a big target man, whilst we may not have scored loads under him, we certainly werent defensive and we did play attacking football. He also isn't afraid to speak his mind, at Grimsby he was vocal about certain crowd elements and similarly he had a few moans at our fans.
His last two jobs obviously havent been a success but he had a decent record before that and take away the baggage, I suspect most of our fans would have him back if given the choice.
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 20:37:04 GMT 1
If anybody says they didnt enjoy the 'hurst season ' they're lying through there teeth.didnt end good, but s**t happens
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 20:46:54 GMT 1
If anybody says they didnt enjoy the 'hurst season ' they're lying through there teeth.didnt end good, but s**t happens As I explained the other day how I honestly look back at him If we take calendar years, 2017 was faultless and thrilling to be top if we take 2018 apart from 2 charlton games it really wasn’t good , in fact it was disappointing and having had our hopes lifted so high it really was an anti climax and even after that bridges were burnt for me I still have a ticket for Wembley v Lincoln which I paid for and then couldn’t be arsed to go Best decision ever
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Post by londonshrew75 on Nov 20, 2020 21:00:58 GMT 1
Seriously. You couldn't be bothered to go ? We ran out of steam at the end of the season and on the day Rotherham trampled all over us on a stinking hot day. Get over it. The fact is Blackburn got Armstrong in and Wigan came good. We had a great season and played some great stuff early on and the lads just ran out of steam at the end. Wouldn't want Hurst back purely on principle, but his knowledge and the way he carefully crafted the season(including the friendlys) can't be faulted
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 20, 2020 21:03:08 GMT 1
So long as you and your board don’t trust him an inch you’ll be fine.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Nov 20, 2020 21:05:20 GMT 1
I'll never forgive the snake. If you get him, I hope you get relegated so he gets the sack again. No offence.
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 20, 2020 21:08:33 GMT 1
There's a lot of bitter people about, ignore most. He left in circumstances like any other job, he was offered better and went.
You'll have a decent manager who will have your squad fit. Likely play 4-2-3-1 with wingers. Anyone who says they didn't enjoy Hurst's season is a born liar.
Best of luck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 21:09:37 GMT 1
Hi all, Paul Hurst is being strongly linked with a move to us to be appointed next week Just wondering what your thoughts on him are? Style of play etc We have a very good squad for league two - better than we had in league one last season- so he will have some talent to work with Hopefully he can get more out of them than Jackson managed Have you also asked the question on the Sc***horpe forum out of interest? That was his last job and in league 2.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 21:11:48 GMT 1
Seriously. You couldn't be bothered to go ? We ran out of steam at the end of the season and on the day Rotherham trampled all over us on a stinking hot day. Get over it. The fact is Blackburn got Armstrong in and Wigan came good. We had a great season and played some great stuff early on and the lads just ran out of steam at the end. Wouldn't want Hurst back purely on principle, but his knowledge and the way he carefully crafted the season(including the friendlys) can't be faulted we ran out of steam ? we spent many games towards the end giving back up players a run out and not even getting a sweat on, we lost 4 in a row in the process. and yes i couldnt be arsed to go to wembley despite having a ticket
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Nov 20, 2020 21:12:19 GMT 1
If anybody says they didnt enjoy the 'hurst season ' they're lying through there teeth.didnt end good, but s**t happens As I explained the other day how I honestly look back at him If we take calendar years, 2017 was faultless and thrilling to be top if we take 2018 apart from 2 charlton games it really wasn’t good , in fact it was disappointing and having had our hopes lifted so high it really was an anti climax and even after that bridges were burnt for me I still have a ticket for Wembley v Lincoln which I paid for and then couldn’t be arsed to go Best decision ever We won five away games in a row at the start of 2018, including wins at Portsmouth, a last minute wonder-goal at Bristol Rovers and a 2-0 away win in the sunshine at Charlton that was about as dominant a performance as I've seen from a Shrewsbury team in recent memory, in front of 2,000 away fans that seemed to channel the spirit of Galatasaray such was their noise. We were in second at the end of that run in mid-March. You regularly talk about us needing to know our place in the structure and recognising that season wasn't the norm - I don't disagree, it was probably a bit of a one-off. But **** me, what a glorious and enjoyable one-off it was while it lasted, irrespective of how it ended. To reduce the second half of that season to "two games against Charlton" (two rollercoaster rides that left me about as emotional as I've felt as a Town fan at their conclusion, incidentally) is wilfully missing the point. To answer the Tranmere fan - I probably wouldn't have him back for various reasons, but if he gives your fans even a tenth of the joy I experienced in the time we had him I'll be incredibly envious of you.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 21:14:40 GMT 1
As I explained the other day how I honestly look back at him If we take calendar years, 2017 was faultless and thrilling to be top if we take 2018 apart from 2 charlton games it really wasn’t good , in fact it was disappointing and having had our hopes lifted so high it really was an anti climax and even after that bridges were burnt for me I still have a ticket for Wembley v Lincoln which I paid for and then couldn’t be arsed to go Best decision ever We won five away games in a row at the start of 2018, including wins at Portsmouth, a last minute wonder-goal at Bristol Rovers and a 2-0 away win in the sunshine at Charlton that was about as dominant a performance as I've seen from a Shrewsbury team in recent memory, in front of 2,000 away fans that seemed to channel the spirit of Galatasaray such was their noise. We were in second at the end of that run in mid-March. You regularly talk about us needing to know our place in the structure and recognising that season wasn't the norm - I don't disagree, it was probably a bit of a one-off. But **** me, what a glorious and enjoyable one-off it was while it lasted, irrespective of how it ended. To reduce the second half of that season to "two games against Charlton" (two rollercoaster rides that left me about as emotional as I've felt as a Town fan at their conclusion, incidentally) is wilfully missing the point. To answer the Tranmere fan - I probably wouldn't have him back for various reasons, but if he gives your fans even a tenth of the joy I experienced in the time we had him I'll be incredibly envious of you. FA CUP Su 07Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 West Ham D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY We 10Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Blackpool D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 13Jan 2018 Blackburn 3 - 1 Shrewsbury L FA CUP Tu 16Jan 2018 West Ham 1 - 0 Shrewsbury D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 20Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 2 Doncaster D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY Tu 23Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Oldham W we threw away a 2 goal lead at home to doncaster imagine the uproar if ricketts did that ;-)
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Nov 20, 2020 21:22:36 GMT 1
My defining memory of that season is as BobR mentions, the five successive away wins in Feb/March. Each special in their own way but Sc***horpe in the blizzard, the Bristol Rovers 90th minute winner with Rodman’s magic right in front of us, and the flawless performance at the Valley in front of an incredible away crowd are three of my favourite ever away days.
Season ran out of steam by the end, briefly reignited for the semi finals but ended sadly but that doesn’t undo what came before.
I wouldn’t have him back for personal reasons and his time at Ipswich and Sc***horpe prove he’s no messiah but I suspect he could do a good job at a club like Tranmere.
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Post by edgmond on Nov 20, 2020 21:22:44 GMT 1
There's a lot of bitter people about, ignore most. He left in circumstances like any other job, he was offered better and went. You'll have a decent manager who will have your squad fit. Likely play 4-2-3-1 with wingers. Anyone who says they didn't enjoy Hurst's season is a born liar. Best of luck. Some people may behave like that but not everyone leaves a job having been tapped up months before the actual leaving date. Suggesting Hurst was doing what anyone would do is insulting to all those honourable people who are transparent in their dealings and treat current employers with respect before moving on. It is a sad world if Hurst's behaviour is seen as an acceptable norm. Surely, even in football we are entitled to expect managers to have principles. As for enjoyment of the 2017-18 season, I would say the first three quarters were brilliant but what happened after that will always leave a sour taste in the mouth of this Salop fan of nearly 60 years.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 21:28:48 GMT 1
There's a lot of bitter people about, ignore most. He left in circumstances like any other job, he was offered better and went. You'll have a decent manager who will have your squad fit. Likely play 4-2-3-1 with wingers. Anyone who says they didn't enjoy Hurst's season is a born liar. Best of luck. Some people may behave like that but not everyone leaves a job having been tapped up months before the actual leaving date. Suggesting Hurst was doing what anyone would do is insulting to all those honourable people who are transparent in their dealings and treat current employers with respect before moving on. It is a sad world if Hurst's behaviour is seen as an acceptable norm. Surely, even in football we are entitled to expect managers to have principles. As for enjoyment of the 2017-18 season, I would say the first three quarters were brilliant but what happened after that will always leave a sour taste in the mouth of this Salop fan of nearly 60 years. That’s spot on and the example I gave the other day Martin O’Neill at Wycombe
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Post by belfastshrew on Nov 20, 2020 21:45:53 GMT 1
Hi all, Paul Hurst is being strongly linked with a move to us to be appointed next week Just wondering what your thoughts on him are? He was brilliant for Grimsby and Shrews, over a very poor Ipswich side and failed. Did nothing at Scunny. Based on that expect a 50% chance of him doing well. He seems to like winning by 1 goal then defend. The mourinho method at chelsea i suppose. But thats how you beat the better teams. Hopefully you will get the same rollercoaster ride we did at the top of the table...
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 21:49:31 GMT 1
Like I said before, the ones that didnt enjoy the hurst season, must have sat on there ****ing hands all game!!!🙄🙄
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 22:00:49 GMT 1
The only other seasons at home that I enjoyed, and can remember,were the holt season, and the Turner season where we were unbeaten at home.good football played, but in league 2.this is in last 10/12 yrs.there maybe others
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 22:09:25 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 22:09:59 GMT 1
we threw away a 2 goal lead at home to doncaster imagine the uproar if ricketts did that ;-) You are right and again shows the fickle nature of football. Although I suspect fans are a bit more forgiving when the team is third in the league, rather than third from bottom.
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 22:35:12 GMT 1
Cant remember watching many bad games at home that season.the big boys, Wigan and blackburn certainly never overrun us at home.2 very good games to watch, as were most of the others, and I'm not looking at any stats either.and the away record wasnt to shabby either.but heyho everybody is entitled to there opinion.we move on
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 20, 2020 22:45:59 GMT 1
There's a lot of bitter people about, ignore most. He left in circumstances like any other job, he was offered better and went. You'll have a decent manager who will have your squad fit. Likely play 4-2-3-1 with wingers. Anyone who says they didn't enjoy Hurst's season is a born liar. Best of luck. Some people may behave like that but not everyone leaves a job having been tapped up months before the actual leaving date. Suggesting Hurst was doing what anyone would do is insulting to all those honourable people who are transparent in their dealings and treat current employers with respect before moving on. It is a sad world if Hurst's behaviour is seen as an acceptable norm. Surely, even in football we are entitled to expect managers to have principles. As for enjoyment of the 2017-18 season, I would say the first three quarters were brilliant but what happened after that will always leave a sour taste in the mouth of this Salop fan of nearly 60 years. To the OP, I think this is pretty much the feelings of the majority of Town fans. Did a great job for 3/4 of the season but the way he left means that he would never be welcome back here and many rejoice in his being a total and utter failure in his two jobs since he left us. If he becomes your manager there will be plenty in Shropshire willing Tranmere to be his hat trick of failures.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 22:53:23 GMT 1
Would be interesting to see a poll of fans and their thoughts on Hurst as I know plenty of people who would have him back. I suspect that some have softened in their views but that is more to do with results since he has left us.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 20, 2020 23:05:04 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 23:53:23 GMT 1
Not talking about last 4 ****ing games.ok what about the first 15.i dont look up stats.all I know is that was the best team we put out for a good number of years in league 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 20, 2020 23:55:55 GMT 1
Hope I can say that about this ricketts team in the not to distant future
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Nov 20, 2020 23:59:31 GMT 1
We won five away games in a row at the start of 2018, including wins at Portsmouth, a last minute wonder-goal at Bristol Rovers and a 2-0 away win in the sunshine at Charlton that was about as dominant a performance as I've seen from a Shrewsbury team in recent memory, in front of 2,000 away fans that seemed to channel the spirit of Galatasaray such was their noise. We were in second at the end of that run in mid-March. You regularly talk about us needing to know our place in the structure and recognising that season wasn't the norm - I don't disagree, it was probably a bit of a one-off. But **** me, what a glorious and enjoyable one-off it was while it lasted, irrespective of how it ended. To reduce the second half of that season to "two games against Charlton" (two rollercoaster rides that left me about as emotional as I've felt as a Town fan at their conclusion, incidentally) is wilfully missing the point. To answer the Tranmere fan - I probably wouldn't have him back for various reasons, but if he gives your fans even a tenth of the joy I experienced in the time we had him I'll be incredibly envious of you. FA CUP Su 07Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 West Ham D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY We 10Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Blackpool D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 13Jan 2018 Blackburn 3 - 1 Shrewsbury L FA CUP Tu 16Jan 2018 West Ham 1 - 0 Shrewsbury D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 20Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 2 Doncaster D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY Tu 23Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Oldham W we threw away a 2 goal lead at home to doncaster imagine the uproar if ricketts did that ;-) I remember remarking to anyone who'd listen amongst the noise at The Valley how it didn't really count cos we'd drawn with Blackpool in the B Team Trophy a few weeks prior. Weren't we through anyway? Can't remember, was boycotting like any right minded fan. I also enjoyed that we're at the level of spin where Hurst taking us to a replay and extra time against a Premiership team is evidence of his failings.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 21, 2020 0:20:35 GMT 1
FA CUP Su 07Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 West Ham D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY We 10Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 0 - 0 Blackpool D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 13Jan 2018 Blackburn 3 - 1 Shrewsbury L FA CUP Tu 16Jan 2018 West Ham 1 - 0 Shrewsbury D* LEAGUE ONE Sa 20Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 2 Doncaster D FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY Tu 23Jan 2018 Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Oldham W we threw away a 2 goal lead at home to doncaster imagine the uproar if ricketts did that ;-) I remember remarking to anyone who'd listen amongst the noise at The Valley how it didn't really count cos we'd drawn with Blackpool in the B Team Trophy a few weeks prior. Weren't we through anyway? Can't remember, was boycotting like any right minded fan. I also enjoyed that we're at the level of spin where Hurst taking us to a replay and extra time against a Premiership team is evidence of his failings. west ham reserves you mean ? 3 1/2 hours without a goal and the transfer window was still open
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 21, 2020 0:30:40 GMT 1
Would be interesting to see a poll of fans and their thoughts on Hurst as I know plenty of people who would have him back. I suspect that some have softened in their views but that is more to do with results since he has left us. I would rather get relegated under Ricketts than see Hurst back here.
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