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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 19, 2020 20:47:50 GMT 1
This, I Believe in Father Christmas (Greg Lake) and Stop the cavalry are what get me through Chistmas. I never thought it was likely to be either Slade or Wizzard! I do have a soft spot for this one, but then, I sing it so well. People tell me they have never heard anything quite like it.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 19, 2020 20:48:01 GMT 1
Two versions of 'Living Next Door To Alice' by Smokie.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 19, 2020 20:53:22 GMT 1
Seriously, have the BBC got nothing better to fill their time with that b0ll0x like this. 🤬 sake we have a censor on here but some people go out of their way to bypass it just in case people get confused what b******s mean for example $!ut, faggot, s**t, p**s, arse. Just testing!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 20:57:33 GMT 1
Jethro Tull's Solstice Bells is one of my favourites 😊 Ian Anderson at his best
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 21:12:27 GMT 1
Never really paid much attention to the lyrics, but in honesty I think it’s a really s**t song along with 90% of other “festive” tunes. Well, it's not really a festive song is it? I mean, that's the point. Here we are at Xmas and two addicts are slinging insults at each other and probably resorting to domestic violence. All this takes places to the background of the bells ringing out on Christmas Day, etc. It really is a very well written song, if you listen to it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 21:14:59 GMT 1
Anyway, Radio 1 can do what they like.
I listen to 6 music, I will respect whatever version the presenter plays, because the message is the same.
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Post by cuzzman on Nov 19, 2020 21:17:28 GMT 1
Never really paid much attention to the lyrics, but in honesty I think it’s a really s**t song along with 90% of other “festive” tunes. 100% agree Matron. I really like the Pogues , but this is one of the worst songs on if I should fall from grace with god. Fiesta and thousands are sailing are immeasurably better songs. Everyone knows the words and changing the words for this generation just means that these poor sods will have to endure this tripe until long after I'm dead and buried. At Christmas the radio is rammed full of the same bilge from 50 years ago to the present day. I love the darkness but don't let the bells end is a crime to the human ear. Christmas was banned I for one wouldn't give a monkey's. It's nice for kids who still believe in it , but as for the rest, it's a lot of neither I just do not need. Humbug !!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 21:37:00 GMT 1
Never really paid much attention to the lyrics, but in honesty I think it’s a really s**t song along with 90% of other “festive” tunes. Well, it's not really a festive song is it? Well no not in the slightest! It is to Christmas what gonorrhoea is to a brief passionate sexual encounter!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 19, 2020 21:56:07 GMT 1
Two versions of 'Living With Alice' by Smokie. Indeed. And twice versions of Dont Marry Her by Beautiful South.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 20, 2020 13:21:26 GMT 1
Sure every rap song has words blanked out. Kids know they are swearing. Reminded me of the Stuttgart Kinderfest that, that we have each year. They have the stalls setup from the various sports and leisure groups from throughout the city all looking to provide some entertainment, promote their clubs etc. There are also one or two dance groups and guaranteed they'll be there blasting out tunes with all that, all the effing and blinding and as loud as you like. No one bats an eyelid...
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Nov 20, 2020 16:36:08 GMT 1
I like a bit of innuendo like they had to resort to in the old days.
What was Bessie Smith singing about when claiming her ‘back door man’ could ‘grind my coffee’ all night long’?
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Post by northwestman on Nov 20, 2020 16:53:46 GMT 1
I like a bit of innuendo like they had to resort to in the old days. What was Bessie Smith singing about when claiming her ‘back door man’ could ‘grind my coffee’ all night long’? The phrase 'back door man' is also sung by Led Zeppelin's Robert Plant in Whole Lotta Love.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 17:57:16 GMT 1
Jethro Tull's Solstice Bells is one of my favourites 😊 Ian Anderson at his best Couldn’t agree more . Just had to have a listen and also couldn’t resist Living in the Past . Seeing him perform and listening to these wonderful songs left me with a great big smile on my face . Superb stuff , thanks for reminding me -.its made my day . 😀👍
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Post by northwestman on Nov 20, 2020 18:51:02 GMT 1
Didn't Jethro Tull do an entire Xmas album?
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Nov 20, 2020 19:29:40 GMT 1
'Christmas Rappin' by the Waitresses is my fave Chrimbo song closely followed by Siouxsie & the Banshees with 'Israel'. Both stalled just outside the top 40.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 20, 2020 22:28:47 GMT 1
'Christmas Rappin' by the Waitresses is my fave Chrimbo song closely followed by Siouxsie & the Banshees with 'Israel'. Both stalled just outside the top 40. Was thought Christmas Rappin was too cheesy to own up to liking on her, it's my favourite too. As for Isreal, I never knew that was a Christmas record for some reason. It's a good track though.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Nov 21, 2020 0:08:53 GMT 1
Amazed to see such a lot of criticism about this, when MacColl herself did the version radio 1 are going to use back in the 90's and not sure there were protests about that?!
Also how many of the outraged people listen to radio 1?!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 21, 2020 9:43:28 GMT 1
Amazed to see such a lot of criticism about this, when MacColl herself did the version radio 1 are going to use back in the 90's and not sure there were protests about that?! Also how many of the outraged people listen to radio 1?! people get outraged as a hobby some people even get outraged by proxy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 10:21:27 GMT 1
people get outraged as a hobby some people even get outraged by proxy People get outraged about all sorts of stuff. Some got outraged about the cenotaph being vandalised, some get outraged about people of colour being in Christmas ads, some get outraged about minorities burning the union jack, some get outraged if you don’t wear a poppy, some get outraged about people coming across the sea in little boats. Everyone gets outraged about something. Sometimes though the use of the word outrage is now almost used as an insult.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 21, 2020 10:24:47 GMT 1
Amazed to see such a lot of criticism about this, when MacColl herself did the version radio 1 are going to use back in the 90's and not sure there were protests about that?! Also how many of the outraged people listen to radio 1?! people get outraged as a hobby When you're a Town fan...well, you know.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 21, 2020 10:25:45 GMT 1
some people get outraged if i tell a joke
even if its funny they are banging on their buzzer showing contempt like a grumpy simon cowell ;-)
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Post by northwestman on Nov 21, 2020 10:38:02 GMT 1
people get outraged as a hobby some people even get outraged by proxy People get outraged about all sorts of stuff. Some got outraged about the cenotaph being vandalised, some get outraged about people of colour being in Christmas ads, some get outraged about minorities burning the union jack, some get outraged if you don’t wear a poppy, some get outraged about people coming across the sea in little boats. Everyone gets outraged about something. Sometimes though the use of the word outrage is now almost used as an insult. and some will get outraged about using the term 'people of colour', as ex F.A. Chairman Greg Clarke found to his cost!
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Nov 21, 2020 11:53:15 GMT 1
And now there are people being outraged about others getting outraged
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 11:58:42 GMT 1
And now there are people being outraged about others getting outraged That’s outrageous!!
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Post by champagneprince on Nov 21, 2020 16:12:29 GMT 1
Shane McGowan's take on it “The word was used by the character because it fitted with the way she would speak and with her character. She is not supposed to be a nice person, or even a wholesome person. She is a woman of a certain generation at a certain time in history and she is down on her luck and desperate”, MacGowan said in a statement. “Her dialogue is as accurate as I could make it but she is not intended to offend! She is just supposed to be an authentic character and not all characters in songs and stories are angels or even decent and respectable, sometimes characters in songs and stories have to be evil or nasty in order to tell the story effectively.” www.nme.com/news/music/some-people-are-calling-for-the-word-f-t-to-be-removed-from-fairytale-of-new-york-2417374The stance of BBC Radio seems to be centered on the younger audience and that they 'wouldn't understand'. But I think the majority would, I think they are intelligent enough to see the lyrics for what they are. I actually think it's important for their education, why would a woman, in her situation, from that time, take a view that homosexuality was wrong and that an offensive term (then and now) could be used to express that? What words would she use (and what words would they use) nowadays if they wanted to be hurtful to their boyfriends? And if used in song lyrics today, would those words need to be changed for radio play in 35 years time. As an example: "You scumbag you fruitcake, you cheap lousy snowflake" How would their own children view the words fruitcake and snowflake in 35 years time?
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 23, 2020 12:48:43 GMT 1
The BBC, the self appointed guardians of the yoof, should ban the patronising " Do they know it's Christmas" Never bothered me, but now, it comes up every year, why is it so important that "they" know it's Christmas?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 13:56:42 GMT 1
some people get outraged if i tell a joke even if its funny they are banging on their buzzer showing contempt like a grumpy simon cowell ;-) “ ... banging on their buzzer “ . That’s a euphemism surely Pilch ?
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Post by Pilch on Nov 23, 2020 14:07:36 GMT 1
some people get outraged if i tell a joke even if its funny they are banging on their buzzer showing contempt like a grumpy simon cowell ;-) “ ... banging on their buzzer “ . That’s a euphemism surely Pilch ? yeah sorry, i need to be more careful i meant whacking that knob thing in front of them, the one with the thing that looks like a red helmet on it
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Post by Minormorris64 on Nov 23, 2020 15:58:26 GMT 1
And now there are people being outraged about others getting outraged That’s outrageous!! You are just showing off now, using longer words when you can use a shorter one
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 19:43:37 GMT 1
You are just showing off now, using longer words when you can use a shorter one In fairness I did spell check it three times 😂👍
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