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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 31, 2020 20:25:09 GMT 1
deducted 12 points next season!
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Post by Pilch on Jul 31, 2020 20:58:38 GMT 1
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jul 31, 2020 23:00:11 GMT 1
Charlton not happy - if Wednesdays deduction had been this season Charlton would have stayed up. Another one for the lawyers?
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Post by londonshrew75 on Aug 1, 2020 6:18:57 GMT 1
So Sheffield Wednesday committed this crime last November and get punished next season and Wigan commit a crime six weeks ago and get punished this season ? Oh. And they havn't sorted Derby out yet either. Wigan could say they also would like the points deduction next season as I'm sure they would take the championship Monday for one more season? I think the phrase is called ' opening up a can of worms'....
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 1, 2020 7:11:11 GMT 1
You do rather feel that Wednesday have got away with one there. If there is a 12 point deduction to be had then clearly they have gone against some rule or another and they should be docked the points. Giving them Championship football next season, albeit with a 12 point deduction, does look as though they have got off lighter than others who have been deducted points. If you really want to be serious about this, if you really want to deter others from doing the same, then I think Wednesday should be paying us a visit next season.
This really isn't doing a great deal for the Football League's credibility. Its a mess.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 1, 2020 8:23:42 GMT 1
Why should we expect anything different from the Football League. The game these days is all about inconsistency. The only thing consistent in the game is the inconsistency.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 1, 2020 10:57:53 GMT 1
Charlton not happy - if Wednesdays deduction had been this season Charlton would have stayed up. Another one for the lawyers? if i was a charlton fan i would not be happy,i fail to understand why they were not relegated.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 1, 2020 11:08:57 GMT 1
It’s certainly bizarre that Wigan were relegated and Wednesday weren’t. The mentally of the EFL is beyond me I’m afraid.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 1, 2020 11:10:40 GMT 1
Any word on the Wigan appeal against their points deduction? The hearing took place yesterday.
Meanwhile, Paul Cook has resigned as Wigan manager.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 1, 2020 11:15:01 GMT 1
'It is likely Barnsley will argue for Wigan's punishment to remain in place given co-chairman Paul Conway threatened litigation earlier this month after becoming frustrated at the number of serious disciplinary matters put before the EFL this season that are still awaiting resolution. Even after their survival had been secured, Barnsley issued a statement in which they complained about the "blatant disregard for sporting/competitive integrity and the lack of governance in our division"' www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53583068Can't argue with that!
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 1, 2020 12:42:37 GMT 1
Paul Cook is a good manager. Dont blame him for wanting away from Wigan. He wont have any problem finding another job.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 1, 2020 12:52:39 GMT 1
Paul Cook is a good manager. Dont blame him for wanting away from Wigan. He wont have any problem finding another job. Strongly linked with Bristol City. I suspect that he already has something lined up.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 1, 2020 13:22:27 GMT 1
It’s certainly bizarre that Wigan were relegated and Wednesday weren’t. The mentally of the EFL is beyond me I’m afraid. it is beyond most people, the lack of consistency is a big failling.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 1, 2020 14:45:31 GMT 1
It’s certainly bizarre that Wigan were relegated and Wednesday weren’t. The mentally of the EFL is beyond me I’m afraid. it is beyond most people, the lack of consistency is a big failling. They'll probably come up with a ruling that Wigan's 12 points deduction will now only apply from next season in order to maintain consistency with the Sheffield Wednesday decision!
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 2, 2020 11:50:57 GMT 1
it is beyond most people, the lack of consistency is a big failling. They'll probably come up with a ruling that Wigan's 12 points deduction will now only apply from next season in order to maintain consistency with the Sheffield Wednesday decision! Thus sending Barnsley down? That will go down like lead balloon in South Yorkshire.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 2, 2020 11:59:31 GMT 1
Not here it won’t !!!!
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Post by northwestman on Aug 2, 2020 12:02:09 GMT 1
They'll probably come up with a ruling that Wigan's 12 points deduction will now only apply from next season in order to maintain consistency with the Sheffield Wednesday decision! Thus sending Barnsley down? That will go down like lead balloon in South Yorkshire. But equally the Sheffield Wednesday decision isn't going to be over enthusiastically received in Wigan. Or indeed Charlton, who would be reprieved if Sheffield Wednesday's 12 points deduction was applied to season 2019/20.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 2, 2020 12:06:56 GMT 1
It took eight months and 17 days for Sheffield Wednesday to learn of their punishment, having initially been charged with misconduct in November 2019.
The independent disciplinary commission did not conduct their "full hearing" until June, by which time the season was still going after a three-month hiatus brought about by the coronavirus pandemic.
Earlier in July, Sheffield Wednesday boss Garry Monk said "it makes no sense" that they were still waiting on a verdict.
News of the 12-point penalty came nine days after the extended regular season finished.
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Post by scooter on Aug 2, 2020 12:07:11 GMT 1
There are reasons for this.
Wigan’s administration was a move which carried an automatic 12 point penalty, with rules set out about how that would be applied. Wigan’s new owners must have known that when they chose to go into admin
The case against Sheffield Wednesday (and Derby) had to be heard by an Independent Disciplinary Commission, with no automatic punishment, if found guilty. How or why they came up with the identical 12 point punishment I have no idea, but it has certainly helped confuse matters
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Post by northwestman on Aug 2, 2020 12:15:54 GMT 1
So Wigan's lawyers will no doubt be relying on the 'force majeure' defence.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 3, 2020 10:29:20 GMT 1
It’s certainly bizarre that Wigan were relegated and Wednesday weren’t. The mentally of the EFL is beyond me I’m afraid. Sheff Wednesday decision was made by an I NDEPENDENT PANEL, I thought everyone on here thought that independence was gods gift to decision making and justice ?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 17, 2020 16:39:36 GMT 1
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