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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 7:29:31 GMT 1
Most scientific advice is that even when lockdown ends, we will still be subject to periodic lockdowns until such time that a vaccine is found and more importantly rolled out to the community. This could be 18 months to 2 years away.It doesn't take much imagination to realise this is going to cause massive disruption to all our lives for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 8:42:57 GMT 1
This could be 18 months to 2 years away.It doesn't take much imagination to realise this is going to cause massive disruption to all our lives for the foreseeable future. Which is a bit different to what you suggested up thread. The 'new normal' is, in the big scheme of things, short-term.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 8:46:52 GMT 1
This could be 18 months to 2 years away.It doesn't take much imagination to realise this is going to cause massive disruption to all our lives for the foreseeable future. Which is a bit different to what you suggested up thread. The 'new normal' is, in the big scheme of things, short-term. Your just twisting words. We just have to accept life has changed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 9:36:44 GMT 1
Which is a bit different to what you suggested up thread. The 'new normal' is, in the big scheme of things, short-term. Your just twisting words. We just have to accept life has changed. Not twisting anything. This is what you said. "The Government have already hinted at one of the recent briefings that life will enter a new normal nothing like we had before. Believe what you want but I think you will be in for a shock in what will follow this." What this means is that you're suggesting that our lives will never be the same again. Then you say it will be until a vaccine is discovered in 18 months-2 years, in which case our life's will go back to normal. So what is it?
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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 10:08:26 GMT 1
Your just twisting words. We just have to accept life has changed. Not twisting anything. This is what you said. "The Government have already hinted at one of the recent briefings that life will enter a new normal nothing like we had before. Believe what you want but I think you will be in for a shock in what will follow this." What this means is that you're suggesting that our lives will never be the same again. Then you say it will be until a vaccine is discovered in 18 months-2 years, in which case our life's will go back to normal. So what is it? Look it's simple unless the virus just fades away a vaccine will be needed. Until a vaccine is found then life will be very different. It can't be plainer than that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 10:41:58 GMT 1
Not quite sure why anyone is giving anyone a hard time about changing an option about what the future holds. Nobody knows!!!!! Sure people can theorise and guess but asking an individual on a football forum to decide EXACTLY what the future holds is a bit much.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 13, 2020 10:45:30 GMT 1
Greyhound racing might be back by the end of the month!
Social distancing practised, run behind closed doors, no NHS staff needed as backup, only a vet.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 13, 2020 11:21:35 GMT 1
Greyhound racing might be back by the end of the month! Social distancing practised, run behind closed doors, no NHS staff needed as backup, only a vet. Every dog has it's day. Hope they screw the TV companies for live coverage.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 13, 2020 11:34:04 GMT 1
Greyhound racing might be back by the end of the month! Social distancing practised, run behind closed doors, no NHS staff needed as backup, only a vet. Every dog has it's day. Hope they screw the TV companies for live coverage. Greyhound racing has it's own channel, 175 on Sky. My greyhound, Lottie, aka Kerryfort, still give me a demonstration of her racing skills up the field. She's a show off! Mind you, if I could run that fast, I'd be Juan as well! www.rxtvlog.com/2020/01/greyhound-racing-moves-channel-as-front.htmlOh, and I believe they would ban "Open races", where dogs travel from further afield, just stick to the local tracks.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 13, 2020 11:40:59 GMT 1
Should think ITV racing wouldn't mind a piece of this for terrestrial TV at the moment.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 13, 2020 11:44:20 GMT 1
Should think ITV racing wouldn't mind a piece of this for terrestrial TV at the moment. I think they'd take safe distance synchronised nostril hair plucking if it meant some "live" action.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 13, 2020 11:52:55 GMT 1
Horse racing is still angling to come back early too.
Their plans are to run races behind closed doors 7 days a week at a couple of tracks (Newcastle and Lingfield have been mentioned), with jockeys, trainers etc all being put up at local hotels.
It will be Flat racing, so far less likelihood of an ambulance being needed, though they'll presumably have to pay for at least one plus a doctor at each track in case there is an accident involving a jockey.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 13, 2020 12:03:17 GMT 1
Horse racing is still angling to come back early too. Their plans are to run races behind closed doors 7 days a week at a couple of tracks (Newcastle and Lingfield have been mentioned), with jockeys, trainers etc all being put up at local hotels. It will be Flat racing, so far less likelihood of an ambulance being needed, though they'll presumably have to pay for at least one plus a doctor at each track in case there is an accident involving a jockey. I always enjoy watching the loose horses who carry on riderless. I think they missed those on the recent simulated Grand National. I would have put in a 100/1 shot romping along in the lead, only to have been brought down by a loose horse at the last fence. It's time for horses to step up to the plate, if Greyhounds can go round without a jockey then it's high time horses got the message and responded to the carrot, not the stick.
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Post by peterjones1 on Apr 13, 2020 12:06:49 GMT 1
Back to the original point and I'm with JT. If I fancy a beer I can still get one so I don't miss the pub in that regard, it's more just the general buzz and atmosphere I yearn for. I'm not sure where pubs stand in terms of the help they'll be receiving financially but in an industry that's already struggling it does make me sad that this could potentially be it for some of them.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 13, 2020 12:12:16 GMT 1
Who knows? Matt Hancock mentioned surveillance via mobile phones in his briefing today. There is no point in surveillance apps without much more testing, unless you know you have it there is no point locating your whereabouts and contacts. Is Hancock going to be having a another U turn on that subject?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 13:24:52 GMT 1
Life will change , no doubt about that . For the good that is . In my opinion people have come to realise that what they considered essential is far from it. They have used the car less and excercised more . They have spent more time with the family and have taken up interests / hobbies long discarded . Overall I think people have realized that life can be simple and enjoyable . The joy of cooking with the family , making meals ,soups out of food that would probably have been discarded prior to lockdown . The air that we breathe is cleaner and fresher and on our excercise walks we have come to appreciate the natural joys of Spring . I hope our new lifestyle will continue and that we will be kinder and more tolerant toward each other . Out of chaos comes order . Even if this horrendous situation causes us to rethink our lives in the smallest of ways , the simplest of ways then we can say some good has come out of our darkest time . I truly believe that . Keep well , keep safe and look forward to an exciting future .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 13:35:31 GMT 1
Not twisting anything. This is what you said. "The Government have already hinted at one of the recent briefings that life will enter a new normal nothing like we had before. Believe what you want but I think you will be in for a shock in what will follow this." What this means is that you're suggesting that our lives will never be the same again. Then you say it will be until a vaccine is discovered in 18 months-2 years, in which case our life's will go back to normal. So what is it? Look it's simple unless the virus just fades away a vaccine will be needed. Until a vaccine is found then life will be very different. It can't be plainer than that. Right, and once that's achieved, everything will be back to normal. Stop scaremongering.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 13:55:51 GMT 1
Look it's simple unless the virus just fades away a vaccine will be needed. Until a vaccine is found then life will be very different. It can't be plainer than that. Right, and once that's achieved, everything will be back to normal. Stop scaremongering. Its not scaremongering. It's reality. All depends on finding a vaccine, which is easier said than done.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 14:07:28 GMT 1
Look it's simple unless the virus just fades away a vaccine will be needed. Until a vaccine is found then life will be very different. It can't be plainer than that. Right, and once that's achieved, everything will be back to normal. Stop scaremongering. You clearly haven't thought through how we are all supposed to get through the period up to when the population has been vaccinated. Thats assuming a vaccine can be found.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 13, 2020 14:14:17 GMT 1
Life will change , no doubt about that . For the good that is . In my opinion people have come to realise that what they considered essential is far from it. They have used the car less and excercised more . They have spent more time with the family and have taken up interests / hobbies long discarded . Overall I think people have realized that life can be simple and enjoyable . The joy of cooking with the family , making meals ,soups out of food that would probably have been discarded prior to lockdown . The air that we breathe is cleaner and fresher and on our excercise walks we have come to appreciate the natural joys of Spring . I hope our new lifestyle will continue and that we will be kinder and more tolerant toward each other . Out of chaos comes order . Even if this horrendous situation causes us to rethink our lives in the smallest of ways , the simplest of ways then we can say some good has come out of our darkest time . I truly believe that . Keep well , keep safe and look forward to an exciting future . I acknowledge that I've saved myself a bit of petrol, but not having the opportunities to drive to the countryside, seaside, Shrewsbury Town games, cricket at Worcester, even the local pub is a severe restriction. Exercise isn't a word often used in my vocabulary. I spent quite some time securing a car park pass for the ground for this season, as walking from other car parks was proving too demanding. Walking in the heat from Wembley Park Station to Wembley up that slope that passes as Wembley Way to watch the playoff final against Rotherham almost finished me off! There is no joy whatsoever to be found in cooking as far as I'm concerned. I tried it twice in the 1970s, but after I'd put a pan with a wooden handle into the oven and almost burnt my flat down, I decided it wasn't for me. Subsequently, I owned a house in Northwich for 8 years. When a colleague bought my cooker off me after I relocated to Chester, he found cellophane over the grill and a label dangling in the oven together with a book of cooking instructions. The fridge and freezer are groaning with food here, but my only function is to eat it. However, I do take responsibility for opening the 36 bottles of beer I ordered the morning after Boris shut the pubs. Actually, I'm now on my next 36! I've not spent any additional time with family other than my partner, but for the benefit of those who have, Priti Patel confirmed a couple of days ago that domestic violence has already gone through the roof. Family Law solicitors are on record as saying that they expect to be even busier than in January once the lockdown is removed. The reason they do so well in January is of course because couples have been under the same roof as one another for about 10 days and that usually finishes off quite a few marriages. This lockdown is going to be far longer than that! It's no coincidence that Boxing Day crowds for football games are the highest of the season for most Clubs. People are desperate to escape. I am of course already kind and tolerant.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 13, 2020 14:26:51 GMT 1
Life will change in that limited lifting of restrictions will bring limited flare up outbreaks, then back to limited restrictions for the next year or two.
We have to plan for that, we don't have to be too finger pointing if flare ups do occur. The alternative is to stagnate in lockdown, the economy, people's other health issues, mental health, family life, all stagnating.
At least we can learn from China, to some extent, then from Italy and Spain, as they begin to come out from lockdown. We have to learn and plan, it's never too early to start.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:18:09 GMT 1
Right, and once that's achieved, everything will be back to normal. Stop scaremongering. You clearly haven't thought through how we are all supposed to get through the period up to when the population has been vaccinated. Thats assuming a vaccine can be found. I will leave the thinking to the health professionals and scientists. The point is, we will return to normal.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 13, 2020 16:30:20 GMT 1
You clearly haven't thought through how we are all supposed to get through the period up to when the population has been vaccinated. Thats assuming a vaccine can be found. I will leave the thinking to the health professionals and scientists. The point is, we will return to normal. But how do you get through the period of time till then. It still won't be normal for many . For all those whose businesses don't survive, it certainly won't be normal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 17:31:40 GMT 1
I will leave the thinking to the health professionals and scientists. The point is, we will return to normal. But how do you get through the period of time till then. It still won't be normal for many . For all those whose businesses don't survive, it certainly won't be normal. By listening to the health professionals and scientists. The more we listen, the quicker we get it done. Unfortunately, businesses go under all the time. I don't know if I will be in a job if I am forced to work from home for another, say, 3 months. Tough on me I guess.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 13, 2020 19:00:37 GMT 1
I just hope the restrictions are not lifted too soon because of pressure from the public. The government have to think of the economy but I think we are doing well now. The message appears to have got through to most people so we just need to remain patient. Dont envy those who have to sort out the exit plan.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 13, 2020 19:15:06 GMT 1
I just hope the restrictions are not lifted too soon because of pressure from the public. The government have to think of the economy but I think we are doing well now. The message appears to have got through to most people so we just need to remain patient. Dont envy those who have to sort out the exit plan. Large parts of the economy wont survive a lockdown if it goes on for too much longer. That is for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 20:49:00 GMT 1
I just hope the restrictions are not lifted too soon because of pressure from the public. The government have to think of the economy but I think we are doing well now. The message appears to have got through to most people so we just need to remain patient. Dont envy those who have to sort out the exit plan. Large parts of the economy wont survive a lockdown if it goes on for too much longer. That is for sure. It’s a fine balance isn’t it. I’m with wakemanender on this , don’t want us to relax too soon to be hit with a second / third dose of this horrendous virus . On the other hand our economy is suffering and I really feel for the small businesses. I’m thinking of the sort of places which you would find in the old market building . I hope they survive but I feel that many will go under . What to do for the best ? I really haven’t a clue .
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 13, 2020 20:53:14 GMT 1
To answer the original question, I'd give anything for a cold one at the Albion Vaults right about now.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 14, 2020 9:25:51 GMT 1
I often go out with some mates on a Friday night to our local and I miss that. The banter and the laughter more than anything.
The struggle at home has been less severe thanks to the shop on Lyth Hill road selling Tanners wine and the northwest co-ops having a 2 for £4 on Salopian ales. So I have a garage with a box of Malbec and Lemon Dream that should last through a nuclear winter.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 14, 2020 9:36:20 GMT 1
I often go out with some mates on a Friday night to our local and I miss that. The banter and the laughter more than anything. The struggle at home has been less severe thanks to the shop on Lyth Hill road selling Tanners wine and the northwest co-ops having a 2 for £4 on Salopian ales. So I have a garage with a box of Malbec and Lemon Dream that should last through a nuclear winter. Yeah, my local microbrewery Chapel Brewery charges £2 a bottle too.
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