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Post by champagneprince on Mar 26, 2020 9:58:54 GMT 1
Erm....isn't anyone else finding this a little bit scary?
Obviously, we're living in a rather surreal world at the moment and some keeping our brave faces on with a bit of humour whilst others out there continue to put themselves at risk (thank you, if you're one of them).
But the building of these hospitals is surely a definite sign that it's all going to get a whole lot worse and coming to our doorsteps very soon.
Equally the 6 month MOT thing is surely a sign, that this is a long term battle and surely those hospitals aren't being built just for a few weeks?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 26, 2020 11:07:51 GMT 1
the goverment have to do some contingency what if planning and clearly london is struggling with capacity, anotherr hot spot is south wales.i worked at shelton during the first gulf war the MO paid for a number of wards to be completely refurbished in the expectation of large sacle psychologial casulties thankfully they were not used but sadl;y we all know what a high price our veterans paid. i expect significant levels of ptsd to arise from front line services.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 26, 2020 11:11:44 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sanatariums they used to have for the treatment of tuberculosis before the discovery of antibiotics. There was one at Loggerheads. We can learn from the way Spanish flu and TB were handled. Somehow we develop treatments and get through this, most of us anyway.
These temporary hospitals will no doubt cater for a wide area, distancing people from what may be overloaded facilities in places like Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Stoke.
It's all going to cost a lot of money, but who cares, spend to save lives based on science.
Already a specific need for Coronavirus patients ventilator is going to be built in numbers, 10,000, by Dyson, Though I have had two motors burn out in Dysons....
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 26, 2020 11:20:05 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sanatariums they used to have for the treatment of tuberculosis before the discovery of antibiotics. There was one at Loggerheads. We can learn from the way Spanish flu and TB were handled. Somehow we develop treatments and get through this, most of us anyway. These temporary hospitals will no doubt cater for a wide area, distancing people from what may be overloaded facilities in places like Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Stoke. It's all going to cost a lot of money, but who cares, spend to save lives based on science. Already a specific need for Coronavirus patients ventilator is going to be built in numbers, 10,000, by Dyson, Though I have had two motors burn out in Dysons.... www.bmmagazine.co.uk/news/wales-based-engineering-company-develop-new-ventilator-and-make-100-a-day/The Covid Emergency Ventilator was devised with the help of a senior NHS consultant and has already successfully treated a coronavirus patient. Engineers CR Clarke – who usually design plastic fabrication equipment for industry – were approached by Dr Rhys Thomas who was concerned at the lack of intensive care unit ventilators. It took just three days to build the device on a small industrial park in Ammanford, south Wales. On Saturday, it successfully treated a patient and now the Welsh Government has given the go-ahead for production of 100 ventilators a day. Dr Thomas, a consultant anaesthtatist at Glangwili Hospital, Carmarthen, devised the machine based on advice from Italian doctors fighting Covid-19 if a small engeneering company can design from scratch and start manufacturing in three days,what are the big engeering companies doing.? Dysons closed the last british based manufacturing plant in 2002 there manufactruing plant is i Malaysia. yet another example as to why we badly need a rethink on were key and vital products are manufactured. 60% of insulin is produced by a danish company in denmark and france, most of paracetamol we use is made in india. many of our key drugs are made in china. www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/features/india-and-china-spark-concerns-for-uk-drug-supplies/20206998.article?firstPass=false"India is the global leader in generic drug production and manufactures 25% of all medicines in the UK[3]. A parliamentary report on the impact of Brexit on the pharmaceutical sector, published in May 2018, highlighted that 80–90% of generic medicines used in the NHS are imported, with China and India in the top five providers of UK medicines outside of the EU
one reason for the nhs staff not having key supplies of protective clothing is the proquerment failed to check with contratcters were they would be made yes you guessed it china.
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Post by scooter on Mar 26, 2020 11:47:37 GMT 1
I know a firm in Shawbury is building these, but where has it been said they will be sited in Shropshire ?
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Post by JohnG on Mar 26, 2020 12:02:23 GMT 1
I know a firm in Shawbury is building these, but where has it been said they will be sited in Shropshire ? As far as I understand it, they are just being built in shawbury and being sent elsewhere.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Mar 26, 2020 13:02:14 GMT 1
Darwin Group based at Shawbury are major players in the modular building industry Used to be known as Built Off Site. www.darwingroupltd.co.uk/
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Post by jacksdad on Mar 26, 2020 13:07:25 GMT 1
I know a firm in Shawbury is building these, but where has it been said they will be sited in Shropshire ? As far as I understand it, they are just being built in shawbury and being sent elsewhere. I'm sure I've read that they are being sent to Manchester and other health trusts in NW England. As previously stated, they're being built in Shawbury not sited in Shropshire.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 27, 2020 23:51:46 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sanatariums they used to have for the treatment of tuberculosis before the discovery of antibiotics. There was one at Loggerheads. We can learn from the way Spanish flu and TB were handled. Somehow we develop treatments and get through this, most of us anyway. These temporary hospitals will no doubt cater for a wide area, distancing people from what may be overloaded facilities in places like Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Stoke. It's all going to cost a lot of money, but who cares, spend to save lives based on science. Already a specific need for Coronavirus patients ventilator is going to be built in numbers, 10,000, by Dyson, Though I have had two motors burn out in Dysons.... I remember exploring the one at Loggerheads long after it was abandoned. One side of the wards was windows with large double doors. My dad told me that they used to wheel patients outside in their beds. There was a sanatorium near Broseley at one time as well.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 27, 2020 23:55:06 GMT 1
The large field hospitals will be for relatively mild cases - note that people with pneumonia are currently being told to stay at home. They will also be for the cases which receive only palliative care. Hence the one in Canning Town has two large mortuaries.
Another one is being built at the GMEX in Manchester.
What is going to happen in the next four weeks will be etched on our minds for the rest of our lives. I hope all on here will manage to get through it.
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Post by scooter on Mar 28, 2020 2:17:27 GMT 1
Reminds me of the sanatariums they used to have for the treatment of tuberculosis before the discovery of antibiotics. There was one at Loggerheads. We can learn from the way Spanish flu and TB were handled. Somehow we develop treatments and get through this, most of us anyway. These temporary hospitals will no doubt cater for a wide area, distancing people from what may be overloaded facilities in places like Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Stoke. It's all going to cost a lot of money, but who cares, spend to save lives based on science. Already a specific need for Coronavirus patients ventilator is going to be built in numbers, 10,000, by Dyson, Though I have had two motors burn out in Dysons.... I remember exploring the one at Loggerheads long after it was abandoned. One side of the wards was windows with large double doors. My dad told me that they used to wheel patients outside in their beds. There was a sanatorium near Broseley at one time as well. The one near Broseley was Shirlett. I remember going there after it was closed down, but the empty buildings were still there. I presume all gone now as this would be well over 50 years ago
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 28, 2020 18:55:45 GMT 1
Scooter, not so sure, I think some have been converted into apartments. I've literally never gone up there even thouhg I've lived here for 27 years.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 30, 2020 12:28:57 GMT 1
I've just seen a message on Facebook from the Shropshire and Telford Trades Council advertising for people in the construction trade to work at Shawbury to construct temporary hospitals that will then be transported to other locations.
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