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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 1, 2020 11:35:25 GMT 1
"Airline Ryanair is running flights from Cardiff Airport this Friday, despite being asked by the Welsh Government to cancel them." "It is the first phase of a planned return of commercial flights at the airport. But the Welsh Government still has a legal five mile restriction for non essential travel in place, and said it had asked the airline to cancel the flights. But on Thursday morning, the budget airline said the flights were going ahead as planned on Friday and Saturday. A spokesman said: "We are operating normally on 3 and 4 July with hundreds of Welsh people travelling home from countries with lower ‘R rates’ than the UK." The welsh assembly should be given the powers to stop them. You wouldn't catch me flying Ryanair, I wouldn't put it past them to take off from some obscure Welsh landing strip, then touch down at Bristol aitrport to get around the 5 mile rule before continuing on whereever they want to.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 1, 2020 11:47:36 GMT 1
Is the local lockdown going to work if it is too local? Imagine trying to lockdown Shrewsbury, for example. People travel in to shop and work from Ludlow, Telford, Market Drayton, Welshpool. People in those areas might also travel. or have a partner who does, to Hereford, Wolverhampton, Stoke on Trent, Wrexham. So where do you draw the line?
Wales has benefitted from only having the land border down the East side, but North Wales may be suffering the effects of links into places like Liverpool now.
How is Leicester lockdown going to work with it's M69, M1 and Loughborough, Nottingham, Derby, etc. links?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 1, 2020 13:47:49 GMT 1
Boris presiding over a ban on mass gatherings, this time it's going to work.
He seems to be a bit slow in recognising that mass redundancies are already happening though.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 1, 2020 14:51:07 GMT 1
shame we didnt have an app If I could I would take the phone numbers of every new case in Leicester and find out where they were on 6th June I wouldn't be surprised if many of them were involved or are close to someone from the 4000 who were protesting to "save lives' www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/around-4k-people-attended-leicesters-4205746if it is as a result of that then look out as these gatherings have been nationwide I dread to think where those in bournemouth last week were from but probably a wide area of course we had Liverpool, I guess all very local and that could hit hard in a few weeks mass gatherings should have been targeted and stopped with whatever was necessary to do so
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 16:45:15 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 1, 2020 19:42:12 GMT 1
an article in the mail showed a video of cricket game in a park in leicster with a large crowd, one person claimed the games go on every sunday and they start at early in the morning , this game was within site of a police station and a covid-19 testing center.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 2, 2020 10:19:59 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53259236"New Zealand's health minister has resigned after criticism of the government's response to coronavirus and his own breaches of lockdown rules.David Clark had already been demoted after breaking rules to take his family to the beach. He said continuing in his role was distracting from the government's overall response to the pandemic Mr Clark said: "I take full responsibility for decisions made and taken during my time as Minister of Health." He said that now was the appropriate time to move on, with no evidence of community transmission in the country. Mr Clark was already under pressure following several breaches of lockdown rules. In April, he was demoted after driving his family 20km (12 miles) to the beach during the first weekend of lockdown. He also went mountain biking during the lockdown, however this was not as clear a breach of the rules as driving to the beach, the New Zealand Herald said. He previously offered his resignation but was kept in his role because of the ongoing crisis. Ms Ardern agreed with Mr Clark's decision to resign and said it was "essential our health leadership has the confidence of the New Zealand public".
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 2, 2020 10:24:08 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53259236if our cabinet followed this example most would have left "Mr Clark said: "I take full responsibility for decisions made and taken during my time as Minister of Health." Mrs Arden has her crtics and prior to her handling of Covid-19 she and her goverment looked to be on the way out,she has shown clearl strong transparent and sensible leadership, how many members of our cabinet and PM do we have confidence in ? "Ms Ardern agreed with Mr Clark's decision to resign and said it was "essential our health leadership has the confidence of the New Zealand public".
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 2, 2020 10:40:52 GMT 1
How many do we have confidence in? Quite frankly none. They all rally to the defence of wrong doers for us to trust any of them.
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 2, 2020 10:45:40 GMT 1
One rule for us plebs and different ones for our rulers.
Stanley Johnson has jetted off to Greece despite Foreign Office guidance saying Britons should only embark on 'essential' trips.
The father of Prime Minister Boris Johnson proudly documented his travel journey - which saw him jet from England to Bulgaria then to Greece - on social media for his followers to see.
Greece is going to review its ban on British tourists entering the country on July 15th.
I'd lay money that he won't self quarantine for 14 days when he returns either.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 2, 2020 10:55:40 GMT 1
One rule for us plebs and different ones for our rulers.
Stanley Johnson has jetted off to Greece despite Foreign Office guidance saying Britons should only embark on 'essential' trips.
The father of Prime Minister Boris Johnson proudly documented his travel journey - which saw him jet from England to Bulgaria then to Greece - on social media for his followers to see.
Greece is going to review its ban on British tourists entering the country on July 15th.
I'd lay money that he won't self quarantine for 14 days when he returns either.
The Johnsons, Cummings, Jenrick - arrogance and entitlement, with no accountability. Rules are for the peasants, not them.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 2, 2020 11:24:31 GMT 1
Stanley Johnson has gone out of his way to break the rules and requests from the word go. He was going to go to the pub whatever his son asked us to do and now this. I am convinced he will have done just as he pleases all the way through as well. He’s as big of an oaf as his son. Poor Wilfred he doesn’t stand a chance.
I honestly can’t see why people don’t just do as they please - those who govern us do and so, it would seem, do their families.
I give up.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 2, 2020 11:31:29 GMT 1
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 2, 2020 11:43:27 GMT 1
Stanley Johnson has gone out of his way to break the rules and requests from the word go. He was going to go to the pub whatever his son asked us to do and now this. I am convinced he will have done just as he pleases all the way through as well. He’s as big of an oaf as his son. Poor Wilfred he doesn’t stand a chance. I honestly can’t see why people don’t just do as they please - those who govern us do and so, it would seem, do their families. I give up. I wouldn't waste your pity on Wilfred, he'll do fine. Top notch nannies, highest rated nursery school, prep-school and then Eton. Obviously Oxford next for 2-1 and loads of jolly japes with the Bullingdon boys, before landing a job working for one of daddies chums. Obviosly when I say working, I mean turning up to meetings and stuff, but nothing like grafting or taking responsibility.
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Post by neilsalop on Jul 2, 2020 11:55:28 GMT 1
I appreciate your efforts with the links, I really do, but could you do me a massive favour and copy the text instead when linking the Mail or the Express. Every time someone clicks on a link they get money and I'll be damned if I want to gift those particular publications a single penny or any of Murdochs rags either.
Cheers
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 2, 2020 14:14:33 GMT 1
just seen a clip of how seating in odean cinemas will look like; asking people to purchase tickets online , but automated machies in cinemas, plety of hand sanitizer stations a family bubble can sit together but then you have 3 seats free either side and the row behind is empty,so a huge drop in seating capacity if football follow this model then ground capacity will be hugely reduced.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 2, 2020 18:06:38 GMT 1
just seen a clip of how seating in odean cinemas will look like; asking people to purchase tickets online , but automated machies in cinemas, plety of hand sanitizer stations a family bubble can sit together but then you have 3 seats free either side and the row behind is empty,so a huge drop in seating capacity if football follow this model then ground capacity will be hugely reduced. I would think that is only way we'll get fans back even then there will still be issues accessing the stadium, crowded concourses, toilets, leaving at the end.
At 1m distanceing you would need a gap of 2 seats between each fan or family group and also the row infront (or behind) would need to be empty. There would still be the issue of fans trying to leave their seats while other ones are occupied in the same row. This would be easier at MWM but still a nightmare at bigger grounds.
There is still the not insignificant problem of regular testing for players and staff and the cost of that plus any stadium changes needed for players. As I mentioned on another thread a few days ago Crystal Palace had to knockdown a wall to enlarge the home dressing room and provided portable units for visting teams to use.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 3, 2020 11:03:28 GMT 1
At least it's not all gloom. No Wimbledon this year, so no Sir Cliff Richard, no smug BBC rewarding itself with the best seats in the house, no middle Englanders scrambling for over priced seats to eat over priced strawberries. But mainly, no wall to wall BBC coverage of the circus. All is good.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 3, 2020 11:22:27 GMT 1
At least it's not all gloom. No Wimbledon this year, so no Sir Cliff Richard, no smug BBC rewarding itself with the best seats in the house, no middle Englanders scrambling for over priced seats to eat over priced strawberries. But mainly, no wall to wall BBC coverage of the circus. All is good. my mum manages to get tickets most years try getting tickets for a 6 nations game ,there's no scramble for tickets at all, they dont seem to exist? how about Wales v England good luck getting one, and then enjoy then some overpriced warm beer in a plastic glass
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 3, 2020 12:00:37 GMT 1
At least it's not all gloom. No Wimbledon this year, so no Sir Cliff Richard, no smug BBC rewarding itself with the best seats in the house, no middle Englanders scrambling for over priced seats to eat over priced strawberries. But mainly, no wall to wall BBC coverage of the circus. All is good. my mum manages to get tickets most years try getting tickets for a 6 nations game ,there's no scramble for tickets at all, they dont seem to exist? how about Wales v England good luck getting one, and then enjoy then some overpriced warm beer in a plastic glass Stick with Shrewsbury Town then. The only time we have a mad scramble for tickets is when we draw a really big club like your favourite, Liverpool Unless Stoke get relegated of course.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 4, 2020 9:06:07 GMT 1
long quees outside the barbers by the railway station and frnkwell,virtually no safe distancing it is just a farce i thought the barbers were going to be boooked slots only.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 4, 2020 10:34:59 GMT 1
yet another nurse dies "Rizal "Zaldy" Manalo from Glan Clwyd Hospital." from Covid-19 people who behave like stupid idiots should consider other more as the eldery, vunerbal and nhs staff are the ones paying the price.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 4, 2020 16:49:23 GMT 1
from the maail proper testing of all nhs staff from day one would have prevented this,probably many workers were not showing any symptoms but infectious. "NHS cleaners, porters and office staff were unknown 'super-spreaders' in hospitals, according to the nation's antibody screening drive.
Sir John Bell, who runs the programme, said background workers at some UK hospitals had 'sky high' levels of antibodies compared to doctors and nurses on COVID-19 wards.
It means it was the hospital cleaners and porters, who often worked on multiple wards, that more often caught and fought off the disease."
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 4, 2020 21:51:29 GMT 1
i know of one private hodpital who's contract to take nhs patients has been extended for another two months, for once the goverment are prudent to be cautious.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 4, 2020 22:04:30 GMT 1
www.timesofisrael.com/stuck-israeli-family-gives-new-zealand-lockdown-five-stars/"So long as that last infected person hadn’t been given a certificate of health, the entire country remained under restrictions,” Noa Shabtai said on a video call from New Zealand with Zman Yisrael, The Times of Israel’s Hebrew sister site. “Even with zero new sick people. Wherever we went, we had to first register with the COVID-19 app, so that the authorities could track us. It was incredible to see how, up until the very last minute, everyone adhered to the 2-meter [6-foot] distancing rule in public spaces and followed all of the directives,” said Shabtai. The country continues its vigilance. At a Wednesday press conference, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said, “To avoid a second wave of Covid-19 we must continue in a phase of being on guard.” At the same time, she called New Zealand a “safe haven in a very dangerous world."
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 5, 2020 11:05:43 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 5, 2020 11:09:42 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53282714"One worker at Rowan Foods said he worked a ten hour shift between being tested and finding out he had Covid-19. As of Saturday, the site has been linked to 289 cases. In a statement Rowan Foods said the virus is "not spreading within our premises". Meanwhile Public Health Wales has apologised for delays in getting test results to employees. Workers at Rowan Foods have previously told the BBC they did not feel safe at the factory and it was "impossible" to keep to a social distance on site. 'Really unsafe' An employee who tested positive for the virus told the BBC's Politics Wales programme that the company had told workers to "come into work until you've got your test results". "I think it's really unsafe because you don't know. They may have [Covid-19] and they may be spreading it without knowledge." He added that the company "have been putting production first over the wellbeing of staff". Many workers were reluctant to take time off, he said, as they would only be legally entitled to £94 a week in statutory sick pay."
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2020 11:42:11 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 6, 2020 13:40:04 GMT 1
Sod the civil service, one look at that picture of those three and the Tory party and everyone in this country should be paranoid about them. Just what is their aim? What are the benefits? Will all our lives be better and the environment cleaner for what they are up to. If not, then they should be expending their effort on things that would achieve those aims.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 6, 2020 13:44:48 GMT 1
Looks like they've given up on lying about testing numbers, so just won't publicise them any more:
The prime minister’s spokesman said that the government has now abandoned attempts to provide a daily figure for the number of individuals being tested for coronavirus. Early in the crisis the government did publish daily figures for the number of individuals tested, alongside figures for the number of tests carried out. But the figure for the number of individual figures became increasingly embarrassing because, as the government intensified testing to meet its target of 100,000 tests a day by 1 May, the gap between the number of individuals being tested and the number of tests being carried out became ever larger. (On 30 April, when the government hit its target, 122,347 tests were carried out, but only 73,191 individuals were tested.) In May the government stopped publishing daily figures for the number of individuals being tested. Officials said that the government would resume publishing this figure once it had found a way of ensuring that the statistics were robust, and that people were not being counted twice. But today the spokesman said that that goal has now been dropped.
But when the spokesman was asked why it was not possible to change the system so that it could count a person being tested on a given day, even if they had been tested before, the spokesman was unable to give an explanation. He was also unable to explain why the government has continually given a figure for the number of testing kits sent out, but no figure for the number of testing kits sent out that do not get returned.
The Guardian.
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