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Post by welshdan on Jan 27, 2020 22:59:04 GMT 1
I like Klopp as a manager, but personally think he’s got this one badly wrong.
Understand if they want to give the senior players who played summer tournaments a break but some of their reserves have hardly played with injuries or just because they are backups.
Adrian, Matip, Lovren, Milner/Lallana/Shaqiri(if fit) Keita, Origi even Oxlade-Chamberlain has hardly played.
They should be begging to get a game! although based on how poor Matip and Lovren played he may not pick them! Both having nightmares about Whalley/Lang/Cummings.
Not sure what would be best for shrews really. They play a better side may mean defeat but bigger attendance/more cash.
They Stick with the kids and great chance to progress and also Chelsea been hit and miss so could prove to be an amazing cup run.
Fingers crossed some money is used to strengthen squad. Also hope no chance of collapse in league form as per big cup runs of the past...
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 27, 2020 23:50:48 GMT 1
I like Klopp as a manager, but personally think he’s got this one badly wrong. Understand if they want to give the senior players who played summer tournaments a break but some of their reserves have hardly played with injuries or just because they are backups. Adrian, Matip, Lovren, Milner/Lallana/Shaqiri(if fit) Keita, Origi even Oxlade-Chamberlain has hardly played. They should be begging to get a game! although based on how poor Matip and Lovren played he may not pick them! Both having nightmares about Whalley/Lang/Cummings. Not sure what would be best for shrews really. They play a better side may mean defeat but bigger attendance/more cash. They Stick with the kids and great chance to progress and also Chelsea been hit and miss so could prove to be an amazing cup run. Fingers crossed some money is used to strengthen squad. Also hope no chance of collapse in league form as per big cup runs of the past... 78/79 FA Cup 6th round replay against Wolves. League position - Champions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 0:33:56 GMT 1
Block 19 regulars should get first dibs. ‘The lifeblood of the club’ as Micky Mellon once sagely noted. Fantastic noise from its singers and drummer last night; relentless 👏 Does that include the knobheads who have felt it fit to goad away fans during pitch invasions against Bristol City and Liverpool? Do they have a single brain cell between them?
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 28, 2020 1:31:46 GMT 1
I'm probably in a small minority who's totally with Klopp on this. Absurd to introduce a winter break that could potentially have a fixture in it. You can't write to clubs telling them they're not allowed to play friendlies etc then slap a game in the middle of it.
Hats off to Klopp. Also gives us a real chance of beating them.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 7:27:10 GMT 1
I'm probably in a small minority who's totally with Klopp on this. Absurd to introduce a winter break that could potentially have a fixture in it. You can't write to clubs telling them they're not allowed to play friendlies etc then slap a game in the middle of it. Hats off to Klopp. Also gives us a real chance of beating them. Klopp the one man in the whole world who could have ensured there was never a replay he disrespected us he now cries about respect Fergie mourinhio pep wenger you name them , they would not have disrespected us so funny I laugh in my sleep 😀
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Jan 28, 2020 8:35:45 GMT 1
I'm probably in a small minority who's totally with Klopp on this. Absurd to introduce a winter break that could potentially have a fixture in it. You can't write to clubs telling them they're not allowed to play friendlies etc then slap a game in the middle of it. Hats off to Klopp. Also gives us a real chance of beating them. I see your point, but fa cup replays were always in the diary for during the break. He knew this before the competition started and before he played us. Is a bit hypocritical of him when he knew a draw would result in a replay in the break to put out a weakened team, then moan About a replay. If he was that concerned he should of put a team that was capable of beating salop, or lose
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:46:28 GMT 1
I'm probably in a small minority who's totally with Klopp on this. Absurd to introduce a winter break that could potentially have a fixture in it. You can't write to clubs telling them they're not allowed to play friendlies etc then slap a game in the middle of it. Hats off to Klopp. Also gives us a real chance of beating them. I see your point, but fa cup replays were always in the diary for during the break. He knew this before the competition started and before he played us. Is a bit hypocritical of him when he knew a draw would result in a replay in the break to put out a weakened team, then moan About a replay. If he was that concerned he should of put a team that was capable of beating salop, or lose Really torn on this. Replays offer smaller teams a big day out but equally the fixtures some teams have to play is getting beyond a joke. Scrap the league cup is a better solution IMO.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jan 28, 2020 9:06:50 GMT 1
I see your point, but fa cup replays were always in the diary for during the break. He knew this before the competition started and before he played us. Is a bit hypocritical of him when he knew a draw would result in a replay in the break to put out a weakened team, then moan About a replay. If he was that concerned he should of put a team that was capable of beating salop, or lose Really torn on this. Replays offer smaller teams a big day out but equally the fixtures some teams have to play is getting beyond a joke. Scr@p the league cup is a better solution IMO. Are you meaning the fixtures they have to play like the Premiership and Champions League, as they use fringe and youth players for other fixtures, so no sympathy there. Have you heard any of the lower league clubs with smaller squads moaning about the amount of games they have to play too?
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jan 28, 2020 9:31:32 GMT 1
Having ordered his players to do exactly that in order to recharge their batteries, he does not regard the replay as a first-team fixture and therefore will not be at Anfield, with under-23s boss Neil Critchley in charge in his place. There's talk of 'respect' in this article, and then paragraphs on possibly changing the date, not one word of which indicates if Shrewsbury would be willing to change it or whether the fans who've already made arrangements would be considered. I absolutely bloody well hate the premier league, it's money, it's stupid wages, it's win at all costs mantra, it's we're the best so you can **** yourselves mentality, the sheer arrogance and bloated self importance and pretty much all it stands for with an utter utter passion. Ridiculous. Roll on Chelsea! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51272898
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 28, 2020 9:40:09 GMT 1
Apparently the FA did inform clubs that an FA Cup replay may fall into the winter break and so this should not have come as a surprise to the Premier League clubs (although we do have to take the FA's word on that). So clubs were informed that a game may fall within this time frame and they should have contingencies in place as a result. Liverpool aren't the only team that this is impacting, its just that Klopp clearly has an issues with the amount of games with no break and he is milking this for all he can. He's looking to draw a line in the sand and make a point.
Still, its up to Liverpool. I'm happy enough if we have to go against an under-23 side (or whatever it is) because the prize is a place in the last 16 and a trip to Chelsea.
Anyhow, if the FA come back and ask us to shift it to appease Klopp and Liverpool I hope we tell 'em to shove it up their arse. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 9:42:17 GMT 1
Block 19 regulars should get first dibs. ‘The lifeblood of the club’ as Micky Mellon once sagely noted. Fantastic noise from its singers and drummer last night; relentless 👏 Does that include the knobheads who have felt it fit to goad away fans during pitch invasions against Bristol City and Liverpool? Do they have a single brain cell between them? But they are the life and soul until the get arrested, then we don't make much money out of them
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 9:43:14 GMT 1
another massive shock for Liverpool
this after discovering there was a semi final of the league cup after beating arsenal in the 5th round
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:22:28 GMT 1
Apparently the FA did inform clubs that an FA Cup replay may fall into the winter break and so this should not have come as a surprise to the Premier League clubs (although we do have to take the FA's word on that). So clubs were informed that a game may fall within this time frame and they should have contingencies in place as a result. Liverpool aren't the only team that this is impacting, its just that Klopp clearly has an issues with the amount of games with no break and he is milking this for all he can. He's looking to draw a line in the sand and make a point. Still, its up to Liverpool. I'm happy enough if we have to go against an under-23 side (or whatever it is) because the prize is a place in the last 16 and a trip to Chelsea. Anyhow, if the FA come back and ask us to shift it to appease Klopp and Liverpool I hope we tell 'em to shove it up their arse. 👍 Absolutely. There is no way we should fall in with plans to appease the Premier League. I can’t even see why the FA needed to tell them about the dates. These are issued at the beginning of every season for everyone to see. I’m sorry if Mr Klopp doesn’t like English football terms then the answer is simple - leave it.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 10:25:15 GMT 1
when I first seriously got into football l I was about 9 , I supported town and had a season ticket in the great 79 season
but from that day and the whole of the following decade there was one thing in my face
liverpool fc
the only side on the telly getting all the decisions winning everything
fans and players with the attitude of 'only us matter'
its been a great 30+ years, apart from a few horrible flashbacks
but as soon as they sniff the league title the whole attitude and the knock on effect bears its head
they are like marmite
and sorry but I hate them
no one will change that don't bother trying
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Post by highlandshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:28:31 GMT 1
when I first seriously got into football l I was about 9 , I supported town and had a season ticket in the great 79 season but from that day and the whole of the following decade there was one thing in my face liverpool fc the only side on the telly getting all the decisions winning everything fans and players with the attitude of 'only us matter' its been a great 30+ years, apart from a few horrible flashbacks but as soon as they sniff the league title the whole attitude and the knock on effect bears its head they are like marmite and sorry but I hate themno one will change that don't bother trying Yes, but you hide it well.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 10:30:06 GMT 1
when I first seriously got into football l I was about 9 , I supported town and had a season ticket in the great 79 season but from that day and the whole of the following decade there was one thing in my face liverpool fc the only side on the telly getting all the decisions winning everything fans and players with the attitude of 'only us matter' its been a great 30+ years, apart from a few horrible flashbacks but as soon as they sniff the league title the whole attitude and the knock on effect bears its head they are like marmite and sorry but I hate themno one will change that don't bother trying Yes, but you hide it well. I thought I gave the impression I was on the fence ;-)
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Post by claphamshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:39:29 GMT 1
Can Northwestman or a statistician of equal calibre tell me how many games we have played compared to Liverpool so far this season? I’d be interested to know (noting in normal circumstances we would have played one more if it wasn’t for Bury going down the toilet).
Thanks
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:41:11 GMT 1
I don’t think it will far off either way and we just don’t have the squad to rotate like them.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 10:42:02 GMT 1
Can Northwestman or a statistician of equal calibre tell me how many games we have played compared to Liverpool so far this season? I’d be interested to know (noting in normal circumstances we would have played one more if it wasn’t for Bury going down the toilet). Thanks someone posted yesterday liverpool 39 town 39
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:42:37 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jan 28, 2020 10:44:25 GMT 1
good prices, I bet we wanted £20 ;-)
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Post by claphamshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:46:00 GMT 1
Can Northwestman or a statistician of equal calibre tell me how many games we have played compared to Liverpool so far this season? I’d be interested to know (noting in normal circumstances we would have played one more if it wasn’t for Bury going down the toilet). Thanks someone posted yesterday liverpool 39 town 39 Shame that wasn’t put to Klopp. They might have done a bit more travelling but given they have a far bigger squad and no doubt more backroom staff and facilities helping with player recovery I’d argue we have more of a case for a break than them!
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:47:32 GMT 1
So what is Klopp moaning about then. We are definitely being used as part of his own agenda with the FA and I don’t like it. He made an error in his team selection so just get on with it. There was no need to throw his toys out of the prism in publicHe could have just said ok we go back to Anfield, picked a team on the day and been there for them quietly and calmly and no one, including us, would have known that he was degrading the match.
I lay my colours to the mast and say I don’t like him one bit - prima Donna, diva, call him what you like. Rhink of all the other Premiership managers we have had at the Meadow and none of them have been so rude.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 28, 2020 10:48:14 GMT 1
The delay in announcing the date is making me wonder if were in discussion to try and accommodate Liverpool’s winter break!
No no way should we, would be to our detriment in so many ways, big match coming up will affect the players ( already 2 league games before the tie) and surely we wouldn’t want to help them delay so they can play a stronger side! Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas...
Already less than a week to get tickets and travel and time off sorted, get a move on Brian, we want it next Tuesday 👍
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:49:42 GMT 1
Or the delay could be that the TV matches haven’t been finalised yet.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:53:53 GMT 1
Looking to the number of games; to be fair I suspect that they have put an awful lot mileage together for those games and they are set to continue in the Champions League in Feb (and the opposition would have had a break). Plus of course and for me more importantly, a good few of them will be continuing through the summer with the European Championships. I have no issue with the idea of a winter break, I think it will do our lads some good (more so as others heading into the summer would have such a break).
First time of having one in England and it looks as though they have made a bit of a mess of it.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 28, 2020 10:53:55 GMT 1
someone posted yesterday liverpool 39 town 39 Shame that wasn’t put to Klopp. They might have done a bit more travelling but given they have a far bigger squad and no doubt more backroom staff and facilities helping with player recovery I’d argue we have more of a case for a break than them! In fairness, all of our players with the exception of Pierre and Beckles have had a week off basically every month.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:55:19 GMT 1
1. PL Clubs in Europe don't play in the EFL Cup at all or 2. EFL Cup becomes just that, a cup for EFL clubs
Beggars belief that there are plans to increase CL games by 4 for those getting to the final. CL should also just be for the champions not the next 3 "also rans"!
Sooner the f-off to a European League the better IMO. These big clubs are so up themselves they are oblivious to the the level of contempt other fans have for them.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 28, 2020 10:55:34 GMT 1
So what is Klopp moaning about then. We are definitely being used as part of his own agenda with the FA and I don’t like it. He made an error in his team selection so just get on with it. There was no need to throw his toys out of the prism in publicHe could have just said ok we go back to Anfield, picked a team on the day and been there for them quietly and calmly and no one, including us, would have known that he was degrading the match. I lay my colours to the mast and say I don’t like him one bit - prima Donna, diva, call him what you like. Rhink of all the other Premiership managers we have had at the Meadow and none of them have been so rude. I don’t think he’s disrespecting us as at all, however he/they are disrespecting the competition.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2020 10:57:53 GMT 1
Fair enough but in a way he did disrespect us by not playing a strong enough team and then causing a kerfuffle when he got a replay.
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