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Post by 18stfc86 on Jan 7, 2020 22:53:16 GMT 1
Again, wasted my time and money along with another 265 poor sods to not even witness one shot on target. Getting ****ed off with this garbage now. Zero entertainment.
As some of you know, I've never been a fan of Ricketts, but tonight was the first time I've started to see the fans turn on him. Especially once the second went in!
Please, please Roland, act now or you'll lose fans having to watch these negative tactics week in week out.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 7, 2020 22:55:40 GMT 1
Again, wasted my time and money along with another 265 poor sods to not even witness one shot on target. Getting ****ed off with this garbage now. Zero entertainment. As some of you know, I've never been a fan of Ricketts, but tonight was the first time I've started to see the fans turn on him. Especially once the second went in! Please, please Roland, act now or you'll lose fans having to watch these negative tactics week in week out. Give over. It was a very poor performance tonight but are we just going to forget about the very good performance a few days ago? Ricketts definitely has his faults but it is idiotic to be calling for him to be sacked.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 7, 2020 22:57:40 GMT 1
First off, fair play for making the trip.
He won't get sacked because we are where we should be.
It was also only a few weeks ago we where look towards the play offs. Tonight was not acceptable in any way but to sack the manager after he kept us up and looks to be leading us to a disired (at the start of the season) midtable finish is not going to happen.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 7, 2020 22:58:40 GMT 1
Again, wasted my time and money along with another 265 poor sods to not even witness one shot on target. Getting ****ed off with this garbage now. Zero entertainment. As some of you know, I've never been a fan of Ricketts, but tonight was the first time I've started to see the fans turn on him. Especially once the second went in! Please, please Roland, act now or you'll lose fans having to watch these negative tactics week in week out. Give over. It was a very poor performance tonight but are we just going to forget about the very good performance a few days ago? Ricketts definitely has his faults but it is idiotic to be calling for him to be sacked. One decent performance (in which we couldn't even score) does not excuse the performance tonight or against Bolton.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 7, 2020 23:01:40 GMT 1
Give over. It was a very poor performance tonight but are we just going to forget about the very good performance a few days ago? Ricketts definitely has his faults but it is idiotic to be calling for him to be sacked. One decent performance (in which we couldn't even score) does not excuse the performance tonight or against Bolton. Fair point but we are comfortably above the relegation zone and within 4 points of 6th place. What more do we expect?? We need to improve in areas but he does not deserve to be sacked.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jan 7, 2020 23:19:57 GMT 1
Let’s all just take a deep breath here for a second. Last season we were leaking goals like there was no tomorrow and basically had next to no structure. In the two transfer windows Ricketts managed to sign a good solid goalkeeper, three very decent centre backs and a good right back. He deserves credit for making us a solid defensive unit this season and ensuring we are away from any threat of relegation.
That said the midfield for me has too many players who are too similar in how they play and not one of them is attack minded. Cummings for some reason hasn’t got up to speed and looks our best striker, Whalley isn’t prolific enough, Fey has been non-existent all year and Lang has been out with a long term injury. Udoh is still very raw and has looked promising though. If it was me I’d be cashing in on Fey if there were any suitors and finding someone to hold the ball up front, something I expect Morrison was going to be but evidently failed at.
Ricketts deserves the respect and chance for me to go out and get that attacking midfielder and striker this transfer window. He’s got a good eye for a player and hopefully we can pull another Campbell out of the hat.
The overreaction this season from some of our fans has been ridiculous to observe. It’s like some on here have had the knives out from day one this season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 23:21:42 GMT 1
Definition of a knee jerk reaction, get on.
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Post by block18shrew on Jan 7, 2020 23:28:05 GMT 1
6 dross half’s of football in the league in a row. 2 goals scored and 5 conceded. We have problems. Yes Saturday was great but it counts for nothing if we can’t replicate it in the ‘bread and butter’. People keep saying we will finish mid table? Really? Where are the goals coming from. That’s 4 games in a row without a clean sheet. I am afraid SR’s risk averseness is why we are not picking up points...we need a more expansive system...yes the defence is good enough to allow our players to play further up the pitch to support the forwards more...but I’m not sure who is going to convince Ricketts of that. I’m not a fan of SR’s tactics but I’m not in the SR out camp either. But Saturday now is a big game. Lose against Lincoln and they go above us....unthinkable considering they have lost 12 games. Then we are looking down again and not up. I don’t think we are out of trouble at all yet and we certainly aren’t too good to go down despite there being worse teams than us in this league...we simply don’t create or score enough goals. Simple as.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 7, 2020 23:28:20 GMT 1
the first time I've started to see the fans turn on him. Especially once the second went in! first time we've been 2 goals behind in any game since september fickle fans again
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Post by al36shrew on Jan 7, 2020 23:41:07 GMT 1
the first time I've started to see the fans turn on him. Especially once the second went in! first time we've been 2 goals behind in any game since september fickle fans again Hope we don’t loose on Saturday 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 23:45:10 GMT 1
Ricketts in with Long - Bailey as Deputy . I think that’s right or am I on the wrong thread ? Sometimes I think I’m losing the plot . Ricketts will improve once he gets a bit of sun on his back , unlike that Boris Johnson whose a right t**t . Mind that bugger , don’t trust him , never have . It could be worse , we could have Ollie in charge . Did I hear someone say please God no .
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 7, 2020 23:52:26 GMT 1
I don’t think he should go but I do think he needs a sage old head to advise him AND he needs to listen.
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Post by callum on Jan 8, 2020 0:02:19 GMT 1
I don’t think he should go but I do think he needs a sage old head to advise him AND he needs to listen. Wasn't Barrow brought in for that, although he doesn't appear to have made much contribution.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 8, 2020 0:03:22 GMT 1
Exactly.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 8, 2020 0:04:01 GMT 1
I was disappointed at the performance tonight, but was absolutely disgusted at the abuse being dished to Ricketts by a couple of Neanderthals down at the front when he came to acknowledge the fans. The looked for all the world as if Mummy had taken their toys and locked them away. Infantile.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 8, 2020 0:26:44 GMT 1
2nd highest league position for 30 years.
Some of us literally don't know we're born.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 8, 2020 0:45:55 GMT 1
26 shots fans moan 0 shots fans moan
none up front fans moan 1 up front fans moan 2 up front fans moan
0-0 fans moan 1-1 fans moan 4-3 fans moan
0-2 fans throw teddies out of cot
lets get rid of the negative fans ;-)
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 8, 2020 0:50:11 GMT 1
I feel there an age split in the fan base.
Most under 18 will not really remember us as a struggling 4th tier side who luckily escaped the conference at the first time of asking. They've only seen promotion pushes from League Two and the Hurst season.
Most older will be happy enough with where we are and just crave a bit more consistently from the current players.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 8, 2020 0:52:48 GMT 1
It may well be the second highest position but tonight was abysmal. It wasn’t just the lack of shots on target, it was as exkeeper says, not adjusting to the conditions, not looking bothered and just having no idea.
You had to be there to understand how we are feeling.
I don’t moan for the sake of it but I do moan when my perception is that people who are paid to do something don’t bother.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 8, 2020 0:53:31 GMT 1
I feel there an age split in the fan base. Most under 18 will not really remember us as a struggling 4th tier side who luckily escaped the conference at the first time of asking. They've only seen promotion pushes from League Two and the Hurst season. Most older will be happy enough with where we are and just crave a bit more consistently from the current players. I think you are correct in this Martin.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 8, 2020 1:02:07 GMT 1
It may well be the second highest position but tonight was abysmal. It wasn’t just the lack of shots on target, it was as exkeeper says, not adjusting to the conditions, not looking bothered and just having no idea. You had to be there to understand how we are feeling. I don’t moan for the sake of it but I do moan when my perception is that people who are paid to do something don’t bother. if all games of football went to plan it would be the most boring thing ever we'd have lost on saturday and we'd have lost tonight too
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 8, 2020 1:07:29 GMT 1
Tonight was the most boring thing ever!
It’s not the losing it’s the manner of it that’s worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 7:33:48 GMT 1
You had to be there to understand how we are feeling. This is a very important point. It doesn't matter if you travelled from Yorkshire, Salop, or Suffolk, you're entitled to a moan if you invested the time, money and effort to watch that.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 8, 2020 8:03:11 GMT 1
Motivation is a big part of football. Its a managers job to get the players up for it. Playing in the FA Cup at Bristol City, a championship club needed little motivation from the manager and town played well. It will be the same in the replay. A midweek league game at Doncaster must be difficult for a manager to get the players up for it. I wouldnt expect it to be much different on Saturday. SR has a lot of qualities needed for a manager but I wouldnt call him inspirational. Duncan Ferguson did a fantastic job motivating his Everton players in his first match as caretaker manager and he really showed he cared on the touchline. His coaching and knowledge of the transfer market however would not have been enough to get him the job full time. There are a lot of different qualities required to be a good manager. SR has some of them but is by no means the finished article. He is still learning and we have to kerb our expectations. We are a decent mid table team in a league containing many much bigger clubs with some of them not owning their ground and with financial problems. Accept what we are and enjoy the ride. Win some. Loose some.
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 8, 2020 8:13:50 GMT 1
It's always been the club/chairman that spout about us having the desire and infrastructure to be a championship team. Which of course the fans buy into. We missed a glorious chance under Hurst due to lack of investment in the January window and with this year's weak league another opportunity is passing us by. Serious investment needed now or plod on at the same pace for years to come. How ambitious is Roland really?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 8, 2020 8:54:30 GMT 1
You had to be there to understand how we are feeling. This is a very important point. It doesn't matter if you travelled from Yorkshire, Salop, or Suffolk, you're entitled to a moan if you invested the time, money and effort to watch that. I agree with that. I'm certain it was awful because of the way w set up. But I'd also say there's a difference between saying that was poor and not good enough and some of the pelters given to Ricketts on social media tonight just two days after the same people were singing his name after an excellent performance at Bristol. It feels like a roller coaster of fans emotions as much as anything.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 8, 2020 9:17:49 GMT 1
...with Long - Bailey as Deputy. No doubt she'd have given that performance last night a 10/10...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 8, 2020 9:22:25 GMT 1
I think we need to give the OP and the others who were actually there a little bit of room on this to be honest, I think their opinion on things is going to differ a fair bit to those who were at home in the warm watching on. 👍 It is an awful long way to go, its a huge amount of time and expense...and then to see the side put in a performance like that.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 8, 2020 9:26:47 GMT 1
2nd highest league position for 30 years. Some of us literally don't know we're born. How do you work that out? We were 11th three weeks ago with 2 games in hand over most before a run of 1 point from 9 dropped us to 15th and have used one of our games in hand..... No calling for Ricketts head as that won’t happen and can’t help in January but this mini run has put pressure on the team to turn things round and stop the slide. Saturday’s a key game for Ricketts to instil confidence in the team and fans ....... The mistake was arranging this game 3 days after the cup game when Doncaster had no game.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 8, 2020 9:27:14 GMT 1
There will be people who aren’t fans of Ricketts who will see last nights effort as more evidence to get rid of him. Fair enough, entitled to your opinion, don’t necessarily agree but can understand it.
But there’s another group of people who do the Ricketts hokey-cokey based on whatever our most recent result is, and they’re the ones who need to get a grip of themselves.
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