Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:38:23 GMT 1
Dec 12, 2019 20:11:08 GMT 1 @nicko said:
I think most of the people I have helped would tell you where to stick centerist politics. Like I said, people left behind.I think it the war in Iraq because that absolutely tainted the new labour legacy. That said I think agreeing the Lisbon treaty without the political mandate was another nail in the coffin politically as Brexit has shown us.
Then when the credit crunch happened the media kicked in and blamed
"Public spending" even though that is what had made them good years not
bad, it was the banks that broke us.
"Public spending" even though that is what had made them good years not
bad, it was the banks that broke us.
We have not had centrist politics since then.
Labour hard left revolted from within and the unions swung left with the wrong Milliband. That was the start of the ball rolling that rolled into an unelectable Corbyn purging the party of any of its statespeople.
Meanwhile Cameron ushered in ten years of politically motivated austerity which has fueled the demand for foodbanks as you suggest. But at the post coalition election Cameron would have been annihilated by a stronger opposition.
That's why it goes back to Iraq. Because the labour grass roots lost trust in the centrist direction from that point and it left them with no voice at all on the sidelines of politics while increasingly popularist Tories out Toried each other and here we are.
The point is centerists got us where we today.
The reaction to that is the 'left' taking control of the Labour Party, the rise/fall of UKIP/Brexit Party and Tory party dog whistling.
And let's be clear, 'hard left' is hyperbole.