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Post by davycrockett on Dec 8, 2019 14:44:43 GMT 1
To be fair that’s what the stats show.... Oxford 70% possession Shrewsbury 30% completed passes Oxford 527 with 82% accuracy (432) Shrewsbury 227 with 55% accuracy (125) average in a game is 390 with the record 902 We started well and pressed but for most most of the game Oxford dominated and we ‘held on’ through determination and hard work rather than great football..... lacking any quality in possession and distribution as the stats show is Shrewsbury’s problem resulting in little or no distribution to our strikers.... were all all biased towards our own team but Oxford dominated after our good start! Of the 500 oxford passes I think 400 were in between their centre half’s and full backs in their own half. Oxford spent the first half being pressed in their own half. Oxford did have a good last 30 mins of the second half but never looked like scoring. Maybe but 227 with an accuracy of 55% is an embarrassment we need to keep position more, even if it means ‘passing between center halves and full backs’ until we can release the more attacking players
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Post by Valerioch on Dec 8, 2019 15:13:43 GMT 1
Apparently he told the Oxford Mail that they “totally dominated” the game after the first fifteen minutes. Strange then that our keeper only had two saves to make and they hardly get out of their half in the first thirty minutes. Two of their players told Sam after the game that we were a good side. So Mr Robinson (sounds a bit Simon and Garfunkel that), once a prat, always a prat - interviewers must love him. To be fair that’s what the stats show.... Oxford 70% possession Shrewsbury 30% completed passes Oxford 527 with 82% accuracy (432) Shrewsbury 227 with 55% accuracy (125) average in a game is 390 with the record 902 We started well and pressed but for most most of the game Oxford dominated and we ‘held on’ through determination and hard work rather than great football..... lacking any quality in possession and distribution as the stats show is Shrewsbury’s problem resulting in little or no distribution to our strikers.... were all all biased towards our own team but Oxford dominated after our good start! Oxford didn’t dominate after 15 minutes in any way shape or form Who gives a **** if they have 70% of the ball, if it’s knocking it across the back line and keeper 80 yards from our goal. They created next to nothing, most of the game between 20-70mins was stalemate. Possession stat really can be b******s to try and judge a game by sometimes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 16:41:22 GMT 1
To be fair that’s what the stats show.... Oxford 70% possession Shrewsbury 30% completed passes Oxford 527 with 82% accuracy (432) Shrewsbury 227 with 55% accuracy (125) average in a game is 390 with the record 902 We started well and pressed but for most most of the game Oxford dominated and we ‘held on’ through determination and hard work rather than great football..... lacking any quality in possession and distribution as the stats show is Shrewsbury’s problem resulting in little or no distribution to our strikers.... were all all biased towards our own team but Oxford dominated after our good start! Oxford didn’t dominate after 15 minutes in any way shape or form Who gives a **** if they have 70% of the ball, if it’s knocking it across the back line and keeper 80 yards from our goal. They created next to nothing, most of the game between 20-70mins was stalemate. Possession stat really can be b******s to try and judge a game by sometimes I would highlight possession stats of Leicester when they won the prem... its no good having the ball if you cant put it in the onion bag...
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Post by GlosShrew on Dec 8, 2019 16:51:42 GMT 1
Oxford didn’t dominate after 15 minutes in any way shape or form Who gives a **** if they have 70% of the ball, if it’s knocking it across the back line and keeper 80 yards from our goal. They created next to nothing, most of the game between 20-70mins was stalemate. Possession stat really can be b******s to try and judge a game by sometimes I would highlight possession stats of Leicester when they won the prem... its no good having the ball if you cant put it in the onion bag... Another example of this meaningless stat from yesterday - Tottenham 49% Burnley 51% - Burnley lost 5-0!!
When Posh thumped Rochdale 6-0 earlier this season wasn't there possession something like 36%??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 17:08:25 GMT 1
The possession stats would be meaningless if we could score goals. Or take the odd chance that does come along.
We'll be comfortable mid-table this season on current evidence.
It will be interesting to see how SR develops the quality in the final third over time.
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 8, 2019 17:53:55 GMT 1
The possession stats would be meaningless if we could score goals. Or take the odd chance that does come along. We'll be comfortable mid-table this season on current evidence. It will be interesting to see how SR develops the quality in the final third over time. He won’t be here after Xmas though - Notorious the Goat said so.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 8, 2019 23:02:29 GMT 1
The possession stats would be meaningless if we could score goals. Or take the odd chance that does come along. We'll be comfortable mid-table this season on current evidence. It will be interesting to see how SR develops the quality in the final third over time. He won’t be here after Xmas though - Notorious the Goat said so. That was last Christmas he was saying that wasnt it ??
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 8, 2019 23:07:34 GMT 1
He won’t be here after Xmas though - Notorious the Goat said so. That was last Christmas he was saying that wasnt it ?? Maybe so, but he/she is still bleating about it
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Dec 9, 2019 12:12:50 GMT 1
Was a really weird game to be honest, If I hadn't spent time and money going to Oxford to watch it I'd agree it's a very good point away from home. But after the first 20 minutes where we looked very good I don't remember anything of note happening, was obvious to me that Fej and Dangerous Dave had ran out of gas by the 60th minute and needed subbing but how can you argue with a point away at Oxford?
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Post by 18stfc86 on Dec 9, 2019 14:48:11 GMT 1
Was a really weird game to be honest, If I hadn't spent time and money going to Oxford to watch it I'd agree it's a very good point away from home. But after the first 20 minutes where we looked very good I don't remember anything of note happening, was obvious to me that Fej and Dangerous Dave had ran out of gas by the 60th minute and needed subbing but how can you argue with a point away at Oxford? That's the thing that really annoys me. Myself personally, I've done almost every away game this season and will display my disappointment at lack of entertainment watching us. I then get moaned at as a point away at Oxford is fantastic and not many teams will go there and get a result. Who are they? Barcelona? I pay far too much money on train tickets, food, beer and obviously the match ticket itself and all I expect is a bit if entertainment. I'd rather we gave it a good go and lost trying than sit on a 0-0. Besides, who wants to settle for mediocrity in life? p**ses me right off as these fans aren't the ones going week in week out witnessing this borefest under Ricketts.
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Post by edgmond on Dec 9, 2019 16:28:45 GMT 1
Was a really weird game to be honest, If I hadn't spent time and money going to Oxford to watch it I'd agree it's a very good point away from home. But after the first 20 minutes where we looked very good I don't remember anything of note happening, was obvious to me that Fej and Dangerous Dave had ran out of gas by the 60th minute and needed subbing but how can you argue with a point away at Oxford? That's the thing that really annoys me. Myself personally, I've done almost every away game this season and will display my disappointment at lack of entertainment watching us. I then get moaned at as a point away at Oxford is fantastic and not many teams will go there and get a result. Who are they? Barcelona? I pay far too much money on train tickets, food, beer and obviously the match ticket itself and all I expect is a bit if entertainment. I'd rather we gave it a good go and lost trying than sit on a 0-0. Besides, who wants to settle for mediocrity in life? p**ses me right off as these fans aren't the ones going week in week out witnessing this borefest under Ricketts. I'm not quite sure when Town 'fans' started to have such high expectations. Having followed the Town for over 50 years there haven't been many high points or times when we have played scintillating football. If I wanted that, I'd go and watch Liverpool or similar. We are a small, well-run club that is doing well to hold a mid table place in the third division. Anything beyond that is a bonus and, for all the success two years ago, it was built on fitness, efficiency and the odd goal at crucial times, not on expansive, free flowing football. If the current offering is a 'borefest', then why not save your money and stop putting yourself through such misery?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:37:51 GMT 1
Different managers have different tactics and ethos of how to play. It’s obvious that SR is defence first. Thus lack of entertainment on offer currently. Oxford are on an unbeaten run and we’re a defensive unit so on paper it was hardly going to be a goal-fest!
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 9, 2019 17:14:54 GMT 1
Was a really weird game to be honest, If I hadn't spent time and money going to Oxford to watch it I'd agree it's a very good point away from home. But after the first 20 minutes where we looked very good I don't remember anything of note happening, was obvious to me that Fej and Dangerous Dave had ran out of gas by the 60th minute and needed subbing but how can you argue with a point away at Oxford? That's the thing that really annoys me. Myself personally, I've done almost every away game this season and will display my disappointment at lack of entertainment watching us. I then get moaned at as a point away at Oxford is fantastic and not many teams will go there and get a result. Who are they? Barcelona? I pay far too much money on train tickets, food, beer and obviously the match ticket itself and all I expect is a bit if entertainment. I'd rather we gave it a good go and lost trying than sit on a 0-0. Besides, who wants to settle for mediocrity in life? p**ses me right off as these fans aren't the ones going week in week out witnessing this borefest under Ricketts. Well I have done EVERY away game bar one since the Conference season and I am certainly not moaning. We are not blessed with the best players, they are in the Prem or their academies, we are in mid-table League one and at our highest level bar one since the start of the 21st century. Away travel and the add-ons can be expensive, which is why I take my own food with me and leave the beer until I get home. I start each trip hoping for a win but accept that we probably have a 25% chance at best of achieving that plus a further 25% of getting a draw. I put achieving one of those point winning results above pure entertainment because it is the points tally at the end of the season that determines the level we play at the following season. I suspect that in the main, the people that are not happy picking up points at Rotherham, Lincoln, Oxford (and very nearly Wycombe), are those that never wanted Ricketts and will not accept him under any circumstances. I remember going to a struggling Chesterfield under Mellon a few years back and coming home absolutely seething after a 7-1 drubbing - I didn’t feel satisfied or entertained that day. We are currently competitive and on our day can beat any team at this level, so I for one can live with that.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Dec 9, 2019 17:44:12 GMT 1
That's the thing that really annoys me. Myself personally, I've done almost every away game this season and will display my disappointment at lack of entertainment watching us. I then get moaned at as a point away at Oxford is fantastic and not many teams will go there and get a result. Who are they? Barcelona? I pay far too much money on train tickets, food, beer and obviously the match ticket itself and all I expect is a bit if entertainment. I'd rather we gave it a good go and lost trying than sit on a 0-0. Besides, who wants to settle for mediocrity in life? p**ses me right off as these fans aren't the ones going week in week out witnessing this borefest under Ricketts. Well I have done EVERY away game bar one since the Conference season and I am certainly not moaning. We are not blessed with the best players, they are in the Prem or their academies, we are in mid-table League one and at our highest level bar one since the start of the 2-st century. Away travel and the add-ons can be expensive, which is why I take my own food with me and leave the beer until I get home. I start each trip hoping for a win but accept that we probably have a 25% chance at best of achieving that plus a further 25% of getting a draw. I put achieving one of those point winning results above pure entertainment because it is the points tally at the end of the season that determines the level we play at the following season. I suspect that in the main, the people that are not happy picking up points at Rotherham, Lincoln, Oxford (and very nearly Wycombe), are those that never wanted Ricketts and will not accept him under any circumstances. I remember going to a struggling Chesterfield under Mellon a few years back and coming home absolutely seething after a 7-1 drubbing - I didn’t feel satisfied or entertained that day. We are currently competitive and on our day can beat any team at this level, so I for one can live with that. Good Post I actually enjoyed the game at Oxford and certainly the first half hour was top drawer from Town. We made a team that had been scoring goals for fun and were 5th in the table, look very very ordinary. A neutral would have thought we were the team sitting 5th. Given that I was fearful of a Rourkes Drift afternoon I was delighted with our performance and the point. Agreed we can beat anyone on our day and fear no team in this league Bring on Coventry COYBs
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Post by venceremos on Dec 9, 2019 18:14:39 GMT 1
Of the 500 oxford passes I think 400 were in between their centre half’s and full backs in their own half. Oxford spent the first half being pressed in their own half. Oxford did have a good last 30 mins of the second half but never looked like scoring. Maybe but 227 with an accuracy of 55% is an embarrassment we need to keep position more, even if it means ‘passing between center halves and full backs’ until we can release the more attacking players I'd agree 55% accuracy isn't great but Man United were credited with 28% possession and 74% passing accuracy at City on Saturday but ripped City apart and could have been 4 or 5 up after 30 minutes. I'd rather watch a low possession, counter-attacking team with pace than one that sits on the ball and goes nowhere (that's not City but you see a lot of lesser teams doing that in League 1). I know we don't exactly have the quality to counter-attack at pace but the point is there are different ways to get a good result. Our least effective teams of recent seasons have been the ones passing it endlessly from side to side across the back line, though their possession stats were probably reasonable. I know it wasn't you but those demanding more entertainment for their commitment in travelling to follow the Town should ask themselves why they do it in the first place. The footballing entertainment can be thin at any game; that's always been the case and always will be. As others have pointed out, there are different reasons for watching Town but surely nobody has ever travelled purely for the quality of Town's football - you'd watch a big PL team for that and even then it'd be hit and miss. If following your team, visiting other places, mixing with friends and fellow fans etc don't provide reasons enough for travelling then spare yourself the dissatisfaction and don't do it. There might be good reasons for the team to change its playing style but compensating anyone for their food and beer spending isn't one of them.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 9, 2019 19:01:52 GMT 1
I get pleasure watching a well organised and committed defence, if it’s my team doing it.
There’s a lot of satisfaction in preventing the opposition scoring, especially on their own patch.
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Post by tvor on Dec 10, 2019 10:05:42 GMT 1
The poor lad who went off injured on Saturday, Anthony Forde, suffered four broken ribs and a punctured lung. Thankfully he is now out of hospital and recovering.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 10, 2019 10:18:19 GMT 1
The poor lad who went off injured on Saturday, Anthony Forde, suffered four broken ribs and a punctured lung. Thankfully he is now out of hospital and recovering. let us hope he has a speedy recovery
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 10, 2019 11:03:11 GMT 1
Indeed. Sounds really nasty.
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 10, 2019 22:06:40 GMT 1
The poor lad who went off injured on Saturday, Anthony Forde, suffered four broken ribs and a punctured lung. Thankfully he is now out of hospital and recovering. Thankfullyit was as a result of a nasty tackle that he made on Donald Love. The Ox board would have been in meltdown had it been the other way round - they already have us down as anti-football, time wasting thugs.
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