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Post by edgmond on Jan 4, 2020 20:11:19 GMT 1
Why the **** hasn't Cummings played again today rickets really Laurent as forward 🤷 Did you watch the game? Laurent was really effective in the wide right position and was inches away from capping a great performance with a spectacular winner. I like what I have seen of Cummings but wide right is not his natural position either, so there is no reason to think he would have done better today.
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Post by edgmond on Jan 4, 2020 20:21:42 GMT 1
Walker was also on the bench Ah yeah true. Not convinced by walker though. It was odd putting Whalley up front but we continued to create chances and his mobility gave their defenders a real run around. We certainly didn’t sit back after Udoh went off. As for Walker, he hasn’t had enough game time to prove his worth or otherwise. I happen to think that there is the potential for a really good L1 player there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 20:35:50 GMT 1
Spot on, I thought what are we doing bringing Whalley up front but he did a very good job, just having a loan striker in a wide position with nobody in the box frustrated me, I would like to see people breaking into the box, but everyone hovers outside of the box.
Cummings is a mystery, Lang didn't look as effective up front in the last 5 mins +stoppage, I don't really understand what is going on with Cummings as when hes on the pitch he makes a difference.
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Post by dooble78 on Jan 4, 2020 20:49:23 GMT 1
Yeah granted on Cummings best position wouldn't be out wide of a 3 but every time he comes on or has played he has made a difference something is going on with him and rickets me thinks
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Jan 4, 2020 20:58:33 GMT 1
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Post by Lancsman on Jan 4, 2020 21:00:02 GMT 1
I think the midfield should be picked before anything else. Two up front, Udah ( Lang) and Cummings. Cummings first then one of the other two. Cummings needs game time.....notwithstanding that, I am of the firm view he is class. Put him on at any point in the game and his pedigree shows. The midfield need to service the front two to get the best out of them. One other issue I want to refer to. Good strikers go near or far post in the box for deliveries from the the wing positions. In other words they need to be right. It’s not rocket science. Watch Liverpool. We are nor Liverpool but it’s basics.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 4, 2020 21:01:40 GMT 1
2 superb saves straight after the goal, certainly looked capable then. superb ? if either of those had gone in, our keeper would have looked so stupid should have held the first one, which led to the corner,  2nd he did do well if anything to clear the ball, it say it was a good save but a routine one and not superb 2nd one was superb as well as the one in the second half. I’ve criticised Murphy in the past but he did very well today. A more than decent backup keeper.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 4, 2020 21:01:49 GMT 1
We dominated the game without a striker. Maybe they tired but we kept possession well and generally played it on the ground. Ricketts got it right and we should have won. Don’t understand why anyone’s talking about Cummings in the context of that game.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 4, 2020 21:04:21 GMT 1
Yeah granted on Cummings best position wouldn't be out wide of a 3 but every time he comes on or has played he has made a difference something is going on with him and rickets me thinks Cummings is good but I think he’s also been ineffective several times. No mystery to me why he’s not yet a first choice.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 4, 2020 21:04:43 GMT 1
We dominated the game without a striker. Maybe they tired but we kept possession well and generally played it on the ground. Ricketts got it right and we should have won. Don’t understand why anyone’s talking about Cummings in the context of that game. Agree, it seems odd to not bring a striker on but those last 20 mins, we were the only team that looked like scoring. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jan 4, 2020 21:08:30 GMT 1
A decent start, but then same old same old. Not enough pace or creativity, which means endless dithering and sideways balls while City regain their shape. What we'd give right now for some decent attacking midfield options. Were you at the same game? Midfield pushed forward at every opportunity I wrote that at half time - second half they looked a different team, fair play.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 4, 2020 21:37:12 GMT 1
Good performance today. Good work ethic. Everyone knows what their role is. Very disciplined.
We're not set up to be attacking, but still posed some significant threat.
I thought Goldbourne was excellent against a very tricky opponent. Laurent is effective in that position. Goss shines alongside the energy of Norburn.
Overall - thoroughly good performance and lots to take away.
Just a little imagination - that formation, all the current side in their current positions, but Grant Holt up front. That side would survive in the championship. But that's a heck of an ask from Udoh.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 4, 2020 21:39:41 GMT 1
Good performance today. Good work ethic. Everyone knows what their role is. Very disciplined. We're not set up to be attacking, but still posed some significant threat. I thought Goldbourne was excellent against a very tricky opponent. Laurent is effective in that position. Goss shines alongside the energy of Norburn. Overall - thoroughly good performance and lots to take away. Just a little imagination - that formation, all the current side in their current positions, but Grant Holt up front. That side would survive in the championship. But that's a heck of an ask from Udoh. Agree with all of that, albeit I felt Laurent grew far better 2nd half, and Goss seemed to push on higher. Felt he was too deep 1st half Agree about Udoh, but fair play to the lad he was quality as lone striker today imo. Got stuck in, won his headers, held it up and linked up play. He looks very promising to me
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 4, 2020 21:47:53 GMT 1
Good performance today. Good work ethic. Everyone knows what their role is. Very disciplined. We're not set up to be attacking, but still posed some significant threat. I thought Goldbourne was excellent against a very tricky opponent. Laurent is effective in that position. Goss shines alongside the energy of Norburn. Overall - thoroughly good performance and lots to take away. Just a little imagination - that formation, all the current side in their current positions, but Grant Holt up front. That side would survive in the championship. But that's a heck of an ask from Udoh. Agree with all of that, albeit I felt Laurent grew far better 2nd half, and Goss seemed to push on higher. Felt he was too deep 1st half Agree about Udoh, but fair play to the lad he was quality as lone striker today imo. Got stuck in, won his headers, held it up and linked up play. He looks very promising to me
Yep I was not trying to put Udoh down. He played well and looks like he has got bags of potential.
But he has not started ten league games in his whole career has he?
That's a heck of a jump to an isolated striker in league one.
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Post by Lancsman on Jan 4, 2020 22:07:29 GMT 1
Yes agreed. But I’ve put a suggestion on here about how the front tempo should be played and no one has agreed or disagreed.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 4, 2020 22:29:33 GMT 1
It perhaps shows my footballing ignorance but I hadn’t heard of many of the Bristol City players beforehand, was surprised to hear that was a pretty strong team they put out, even more so after the game. They were appalling which does make me thing we may have missed a golden opportunity to progress, that said we have to back ourselves at the Meadow.
Couldn’t ask for more from the team today, excellent committed and disclipined performance whilst still maintaining a threat throughout. They were terrified of Giles in particular. Would still love to find a way to get a few more numbers forward when attacking, but I think it’s a genuine work in progress.
I thought the support was outstanding today too, credit to all. Seen a lot of complimentary comments from Bristol City fans about both the team and fans, a good day.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jan 4, 2020 23:09:27 GMT 1
Some good accounts on here of the performance and the support, but why do people still concentrate on the negatives. All this about substitutions, conspiracy theories, tactics, effing blah blah blah, we are a mid table L1 side playing a top half Championship side, we outplayed them for a good part, we created chances, we out thought them tactically, and we even out sang them. But oh no this is still not good enough for some, they still bleat on about what if this what if that, if he had done that if he had done the basics, if we had played with 6 strikers or if the midfield had pressed further up the field. It's almost comical sometimes, but other times you would like to reach into this board and grab some by the neck and make them realise what utter s###e they write, it's almost like they expect us to be turning over every team we play. I have to ask myself sometimes if they actually go to games, and if they do they surely have some sort of agenda regarding the club, manager, and players, or do they watch too much football on tv and think it's easy.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 4, 2020 23:49:22 GMT 1
, but other times you would like to reach into this board and grab some by the neck and make them realise what utter s###e they write Now stop talking about Pilch...... can't be me, I never talk s**te ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 0:12:20 GMT 1
Norburn has been disappointing since his injury that's why I can't understand why Cummings isn't getting a game the best striker by a mile 😬 They play in different positions, for a start?!
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Post by wayahead on Jan 5, 2020 0:16:48 GMT 1
Good performance today. Good work ethic. Everyone knows what their role is. Very disciplined. We're not set up to be attacking, but still posed some significant threat. I thought Goldbourne was excellent against a very tricky opponent. Laurent is effective in that position. Goss shines alongside the energy of Norburn. Overall - thoroughly good performance and lots to take away. Just a little imagination - that formation, all the current side in their current positions, but Grant Holt up front. That side would survive in the championship. But that's a heck of an ask from Udoh. Agree with all of that, albeit I felt Laurent grew far better 2nd half, and Goss seemed to push on higher. Felt he was too deep 1st half Agree about Udoh, but fair play to the lad he was quality as lone striker today imo. Got stuck in, won his headers, held it up and linked up play. He looks very promising to me Very good performance today, as I said in a previous post, a lot of talk about Cummings, playing with 2 forwards etc, this leaves holes around the pitch, that could be exploited. The line-up proved to be very effective, as did the subs and their timings. Laurent had a good first half, had to cover a lot of ground helping Love, I don't think we notice at times his work off the ball and the amount of yards he covers. Second half he got on the ball more and stretched their defenders with his runs, allowing more space for others, again not noticed by some, so I don't think he grew into the game, he was in the game from the off. Let's not forget it's not his favourite or best position and he has been very effective this season playing more central (I believe he is our top goalscorer). "Shrewsbury look like the Championship team." says Stephen Warnock and we are still getting people complaining.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jan 5, 2020 0:49:55 GMT 1
Thanks to a great ESPN stream, it was the first time for me to see anything of this season's Salop side. Thought we looked very organised when defending, play some really nice passing football, good in transition and Giles in full flow is a joy to watch (would be Prem/Champ level if had end product). But we look pretty toothless in the final third.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 5, 2020 9:35:53 GMT 1
Yep. One viewing and you are right. We out number teams in areas of the pitch that are not dangerous. Yes. We looked good and it's quite comforting to watch, but it's unlickly you will win matches with false no 9s just running around making a nuisance of themselves. How many times did Giles glide past players yesterday to find himself completely isolated when he had to make that split second decision to cross the ball. For all the nice stuff(in areas that don't hurt) the balance is wrong. There's a reason we have scored less than EVERYONE else (Bolton don't count)...
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Post by RBA on Jan 5, 2020 10:05:29 GMT 1
Norburn has been disappointing since his injury that's why I can't understand why Cummings isn't getting a game the best striker by a mile 😬 its a game of opinions but this is an extraordinary one in my view
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jan 5, 2020 10:23:59 GMT 1
Difficult to see how any of the players (or the manager) could be criticized after that performance - we showed commitment, discipline, tactical awareness and resolution throughout. Apparently their team cost thirty million quid in transfer fees and even their fans admitted we were the better side. Special mention to Giles and the promising Udoh but for me Murphy was Man of the Match. Looked confident throughout and made three cracking saves.
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Post by wayahead on Jan 5, 2020 10:39:48 GMT 1
Yep. One viewing and you are right. We out number teams in areas of the pitch that are not dangerous. Yes. We looked good and it's quite comforting to watch, but it's unlickly you will win matches with false no 9s just running around making a nuisance of themselves. How many times did Giles glide past players yesterday to find himself completely isolated when he had to make that split second decision to cross the ball. For all the nice stuff(in areas that don't hurt) the balance is wrong. There's a reason we have scored less than EVERYONE else (Bolton don't count)... Well that's not entirely true is it? We had a number 9 on for 66 minutes and how ever good Giles was yesterday and he was very good, he had bodies to aim for when he got himself into some good areas after passing their right back with ease, his crossing for the most wasn't good. With 'the false number 9, running around making a nuisance of themselves,' we still created chances.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 5, 2020 10:50:47 GMT 1
Yep. One viewing and you are right. We out number teams in areas of the pitch that are not dangerous. Yes. We looked good and it's quite comforting to watch, but it's unlickly you will win matches with false no 9s just running around making a nuisance of themselves. How many times did Giles glide past players yesterday to find himself completely isolated when he had to make that split second decision to cross the ball. For all the nice stuff(in areas that don't hurt) the balance is wrong. There's a reason we have scored less than EVERYONE else (Bolton don't count)... too lazy to think up a stat to suit the argument so just ignores them people moaned at bolton saying the stats lied and some of the shots were not worthy of being called a shot etc yesterday some of those shots off target were mighty close Giles hit the woodwork, which the keeper really had to scramble to cover, Lauren had an amazing effort strike the post, several close calls first half saw the ball narrowly go wide, had they been a league 2 side, id have summed it up saying, typical cup tie, we should have won , did enough to win, had a ropey 10 minute spell where they got on top but should see them off in the replay lets be positive, I mean Lang came on didn't he ? ps we are in the English SECOND TIER (championship dont count) ;-)
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 5, 2020 10:52:57 GMT 1
SR is certainly going to have to use the squad over the next few games. A lot of games in a short space of time. The draw for the next round of the FA Cup will I think influence the kind of gate we get for the replay. Get a big draw home or away and the Meadow will be rocking and see us home against City.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 5, 2020 11:08:10 GMT 1
SR is certainly going to have to use the squad over the next few games. A lot of games in a short space of time. The draw for the next round of the FA Cup will I think influence the kind of gate we get for the replay. Get a big draw home or away and the Meadow will be rocking and see us home against City. Especially if the club announce a ticket for the replay guarantees a ticket for the next round .......
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 5, 2020 11:15:51 GMT 1
I am not saying we are playing badly and I like the kid we got from Telford. If he has now gained his fitness, then give him an hour plus to see what he can do. My point is the balance (in my view) is wrong. Norburn (in my view)is a class act at this level, so give him more responsibility by playing two in the middle so we can play Cummings. It might not work, but we're not going down so try something that might get us to score a few? If it fails then go back to the set up we have now ?
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Post by Pilch on Jan 5, 2020 11:20:29 GMT 1
I am not saying we are playing badly and I like the kid we got from Telford. If he has now gained his fitness, then give him an hour plus to see what he can do. My point is the balance (in my view) is wrong. Norburn (in my view)is a class act at this level, so give him more responsibility by playing two in the middle so we can play Cummings. It might not work, but we're not going down so try something that might get us to score a few? If it fails then go back to the set up we have now ? I think you might be onto something, when sam see this he will immediately realise he's not thought of trying to score goals ;-)
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