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Nov 2, 2019 9:36:28 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Nov 2, 2019 9:36:28 GMT 1
Greg Docherty is very popular in block 19😉 Of course yeah It’s nothing to do with footballing ability He instantly doubles the number of songs to sing Can someone remind me the lyrics to the Greg Docherty song 🙄
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Docherty
Nov 2, 2019 9:39:38 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Nov 2, 2019 9:39:38 GMT 1
Greg Docherty is very popular in block 19😉 Of course yeah It’s nothing to do with footballing ability He instantly doubles the number of songs to sing Can someone remind me the lyrics to the Greg Docherty song 🙄 Greg Docherty, Grey Docherty, Greg Docherty
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 10:47:28 GMT 1
Of course yeah It’s nothing to do with footballing ability He instantly doubles the number of songs to sing Can someone remind me the lyrics to the Greg Docherty song 🙄 Greg Docherty, Grey Docherty, Greg Docherty Wrong, it's not aimed at the opposition so doesnt exist (in the world of Pilch).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 10:58:10 GMT 1
Anyway, would gladly take him back, as an attacking force he is head and shoulders anything we have in our current midfield. Despite the lack of goals, our strikers are not the problem, it's the defensive nature of the team and midfield in particular, the 3 in the middle rarely venture forward although Laurent showed some of it in the last game.
Sadly I suspect we would struggle to get him, 10 goals from midfield in a struggling side would not have gone unnoticed.
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Docherty
Nov 2, 2019 23:17:29 GMT 1
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 2, 2019 23:17:29 GMT 1
Greg Docherty is very popular in block 19😉 If there's anything that would put me off re-signing Docherty it's that sectarian nonsense - and I say that as an unashamed Block 19-er.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 9:40:51 GMT 1
Lets put this in perspective. We average approximately 11 shots per game, with 4 on target. The same number of shots is the as MK Franchise, Wimbledon and Tranmere, who are in the bottom four. If we don't create chances, we don't score. We don't have enough creative midfielders in the squad to make the chances and this is why we need a creative midfielder in the January window. Look at Lukaku in Italy, 7 goals in 10 games because he is given the chances! We might get Docherty or not, but SR needs to be looking for an attacking midfielder. just out of interest I have found stats from another site and these are a little different town shots on goal 9.59. which is 4th worst in league 1 town shots on target 3.76 which isn't much better , its 7th worst in league 1 both much worse than the original ones I quoted oh and this was the season under Paul hurst
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Docherty
Nov 3, 2019 10:35:01 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 3, 2019 10:35:01 GMT 1
Lets put this in perspective. We average approximately 11 shots per game, with 4 on target. The same number of shots is the as MK Franchise, Wimbledon and Tranmere, who are in the bottom four. If we don't create chances, we don't score. We don't have enough creative midfielders in the squad to make the chances and this is why we need a creative midfielder in the January window. Look at Lukaku in Italy, 7 goals in 10 games because he is given the chances! We might get Docherty or not, but SR needs to be looking for an attacking midfielder. just out of interest I have found stats from another site and these are a little different town shots on goal 9.59.  which is 4th worst in league 1 town shots on target 3.76 which isn't much better ,  its 7th worst in league 1 both much worse than the original ones I quoted oh and this was the season under Paul hurst It makes Docherty's goal/assist tally even more impressive then.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 10:57:25 GMT 1
people without tinted specs might take a different view
we had a great season 2 years ago not doing bad this season
last season was awful
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 11:07:45 GMT 1
people without tinted specs might take a different view we had a great season 2 years ago not doing bad this season last season was awful So anyone taking a different view to you has 'tinted specs'?
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Post by londonshrew75 on Nov 3, 2019 12:14:31 GMT 1
Let's get some home truths about yesterday and the season. The weather was attrosious and a real leveller, in which the first half we were the better side and created a couple of half/decent chances. Yeah. On another day we could have had a lead at half time but we didn't and this is where the problem is. Admittedly Norburn missed a sitter at the end, but there was not a stage in the 2nd half where I thought we looked like getting back into the game. Whalley on the left with Cummings on the right of a three. Can anyone explain ? We have scored less than anyone ( Bolton don't count) and if this negative guff continues we'll possibly create a record of the most games without scoring in a forty six game season. The lads at the front summed it up yesterday. "Let's pretend. Let's pretend. Let's pretend we scored a goal"
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 13:06:39 GMT 1
people without tinted specs might take a different view we had a great season 2 years ago not doing bad this season last season was awful So anyone taking a different view to you has 'tinted specs'? not really but most doc fans totally ignore the fact, hes done literally nothing this season, cant even get a loan move, last season he proved he has the ability but also proved his fitness is an issue, and we almost went down I really have no words for anyone who suggest we splash out £600k for him, or pay what it takes etc really is stupidity beyond reasoning
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Docherty
Nov 3, 2019 13:47:31 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 13:47:31 GMT 1
So anyone taking a different view to you has 'tinted specs'? not really but most doc fans totally ignore the fact, hes done literally nothing this season,  cant even get a loan move,  last season he proved he has the ability but also proved his fitness is an issue,  and we almost went down I really have no words for anyone who suggest we splash out £600k for him, or pay what it takes etc really is stupidity beyond reasoning A few questions for you based on this: How do you know he couldn't get a loan move this season? What were his fitness problems last season? I of course remember Campbell regularly going off on the hour mark, dont recall it happening with Greg (happy to be proven wrong). What has us nearly going down got to do with the argument as to whether we should go for him again?
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Post by horse01 on Nov 3, 2019 13:49:27 GMT 1
Greg Docherty made 49 appearances for Salop last season.
He started 42 games.
He was taken off in 8 games.
The minute in each of those games that he was substituted were 89th, 59th, 77th, 61st, 88th, 64th, 88th & 89th.
Meaning he played the full 90 in 34 games.
To suggest he is a 60 minute player..........??
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Post by venceremos on Nov 3, 2019 14:52:55 GMT 1
So anyone taking a different view to you has 'tinted specs'? not really but most doc fans totally ignore the fact, hes done literally nothing this season, cant even get a loan move, last season he proved he has the ability but also proved his fitness is an issue, and we almost went down I really have no words for anyone who suggest we splash out £600k for him, or pay what it takes etc really is stupidity beyond reasoning His fitness was an issue?
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Docherty
Nov 3, 2019 15:00:16 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 3, 2019 15:00:16 GMT 1
The one thing docherty did do was score goals, and that is what he was supposed to do as an attacking midfielder. And there lies the problem, we've got 3 lads playing in midfield, and not one of them will score more than 5 goals this season. Laurent hasn't scored more than 5 goals since he's been here has he?. Can't see norburn or Goss troubling the scoreboard to much either.so until we find a goalscorer within or outside the club, we're gonna struggle big time in my view
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 15:11:01 GMT 1
To suggest he is a 60 minute player..........?? I already explained the 60 minutes quip this season , he has managed 60 minutes domestically for rangers I dont know why but it needs asking WHY
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 15:13:37 GMT 1
not really but most doc fans totally ignore the fact, hes done literally nothing this season, cant even get a loan move, last season he proved he has the ability but also proved his fitness is an issue, and we almost went down I really have no words for anyone who suggest we splash out £600k for him, or pay what it takes etc really is stupidity beyond reasoning His fitness was an issue? 2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories why did ricketts call that meeting if was all based around the booing of why Docherty was left out v Wycombe it was because he wasn't fit enough to start it keep up
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 3, 2019 15:24:40 GMT 1
His fitness was an issue? 2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories why did ricketts call that meeting if was all based around the booing of why Docherty was left out v Wycombe it was because he wasn't fit enough to start it keep up Are you sure it wasn’t the ‘dont Know what your doing’ chants when he was about to bring Payne on and only thought better of it after Danny Coyne had a word? You right mind not a chance of Ricketts signing such a popular character with town fans.....
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 3, 2019 15:39:22 GMT 1
Memory isn't what it used to be as I approach my mid-40s, but seem to recall GD being voted player of the season by virtue of his impressive return of 10 goals and 11 assists.
He was our best player last season and we've not replaced him with a similarly attack-minded, goal-scoring midfielder.
Not sure I'd spend the aforementioned 600k on bringing him back, but let's be fair to him and the vital contribution he made to the previous campaign.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 15:46:46 GMT 1
He will be back January for an undisclosed club record fee. The cards are stacked in our favour.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Nov 3, 2019 16:10:07 GMT 1
Can't remember what his star sign is!!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 3, 2019 16:41:55 GMT 1
2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories why did ricketts call that meeting if was all based around the booing of why Docherty was left out v Wycombe it was because he wasn't fit enough to start it keep up Are you sure it wasn’t the ‘dont Know what your doing’ chants when he was about to bring Payne on and only thought better of it after Danny Coyne had a word? pretty much the same thing really
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 22:05:07 GMT 1
His fitness was an issue? 2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories
Just done a quick search on soccerbase
Played against Sunderland on Saturday 20th October and then against Barnsley on Tuesday 23rd. Played against Rochdale on Saturday 17th November and then against Salford on Wednesday 21st. Played against Wycombe on Saturday 24th November and then against Plymouth on Tuesday 27th. Played against Barnsley on Friday 19th April and then against Oxford on Monday 22nd.
In each of the above he scored in the mid-week game, for someone who couldnt handle 2 games in a week, he seemed to score a few.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 3, 2019 22:11:58 GMT 1
So anyone taking a different view to you has 'tinted specs'? not really but most doc fans totally ignore the fact, hes done literally nothing this season, cant even get a loan move, last season he proved he has the ability but also proved his fitness is an issue, and we almost went down I really have no words for anyone who suggest we splash out £600k for him, or pay what it takes etc really is stupidity beyond reasoning But it's precisely because he has done nothing this season, etc. that we might get him. If he was a first team regular up there we would need a couple if million and still wouldn't be in with a chance.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 4, 2019 15:09:15 GMT 1
His fitness was an issue? 2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories why did ricketts call that meeting if was all based around the booing of why Docherty was left out v Wycombe it was because he wasn't fit enough to start it keep up I wasn't involved in that meeting so it figures less memorably in my life than it seems to in yours. What I do recall is that he was our player of the season, scored goals from midfield and was often to be seen tearing upfield with the ball, defenders in tow, in the 80-oddth minute. If that indicated "fitness issues" I'd say those were issues we could live with very comfortably.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 4, 2019 17:01:38 GMT 1
2 games in a week was a problem for him play well in the one, go missing in the next im mean come on, how short are your memories
Just done a quick search on soccerbase
Played against Sunderland on Saturday 20th October and then against Barnsley on Tuesday 23rd. Played against Rochdale on Saturday 17th November and then against Salford on Wednesday 21st. Played against Wycombe on Saturday 24th November and then against Plymouth on Tuesday 27th. Played against Barnsley on Friday 19th April and then against Oxford on Monday 22nd.
In each of the above he scored in the mid-week game, for someone who couldnt handle 2 games in a week, he seemed to score a few.
Played against Sunderland on Saturday 20th October and then against Barnsley on Tuesday 23rd. and then lasted an hour the next game in a 3-0 defeat Played against Rochdale on Saturday 17th November and then against Salford on Wednesday 21st. and then lasted an hour the next game in a 3-2 defeat Played against Wycombe on Saturday 24th November and then against Plymouth on Tuesday 27th as above, lasted an hour in the defeat at Wycombe for some reason you then conveniently miss out 8 midweek games between November and mid April ? as I originally said, I'd take him on loan no problem but those who think we should break the bank to bring in someone clearly with no games or form this season is mad
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Docherty
Nov 4, 2019 22:35:16 GMT 1
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Post by claphamshrew on Nov 4, 2019 22:35:16 GMT 1
Just done a quick search on soccerbase
Played against Sunderland on Saturday 20th October and then against Barnsley on Tuesday 23rd. Played against Rochdale on Saturday 17th November and then against Salford on Wednesday 21st. Played against Wycombe on Saturday 24th November and then against Plymouth on Tuesday 27th. Played against Barnsley on Friday 19th April and then against Oxford on Monday 22nd.
In each of the above he scored in the mid-week game, for someone who couldnt handle 2 games in a week, he seemed to score a few.
Played against Rochdale on Saturday 17th November and then against Salford on Wednesday 21st. and then lasted an hour the next game in a 3-2 defeat Played against Wycombe on Saturday 24th November and then against Plymouth on Tuesday 27th as above, lasted an hour in the defeat at Wycombe Lol. The 3-2 defeat and defeat at Wycombe were the same game. I’d say over 3 and half games in 10 days isn’t too shabby myself. You’re also conveniently forgetting Rickett’s obsession with rotation for the first few months of his tenure so not all substitutions/omissions were fitness (or performance) related. That said I’d also be more in favour or a loan than spending any serious money on him (at this stage).
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Post by shrewswolf on Nov 4, 2019 23:31:14 GMT 1
It’s a really weird thread when it’s an argument about whether or not we should try to get a really good player back at Shrewsbury. And it’s US who need to lower their expectations?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 6:17:04 GMT 1
Really getting bored of the in fighting and bickering on this thread. I don’t get it. I don’t mind a rational debate but the snide comments are unnecessary and just don’t do anything for me.
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Docherty
Nov 29, 2019 17:39:27 GMT 1
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Nov 29, 2019 17:39:27 GMT 1
Darren MacAnthony the Peterborough chairman said in the summer they agreed a loan move for Docherty & potential £750k fee but Docherty didnt want to leave Rangers .. wouldn’t be surprised if they go back in for him in January with his current situation
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