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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2019 23:08:39 GMT 1
Ricketts stated after the match we were poor first half and we didn't push forward enough.
No explication why, he didn't take responsibity. He just stated it like it was one of those things.
Once he was told what to do by the crowd the team looked dangerous and were unlucky not to score a winner at the end. Maybe he has learnt a lesson tonight. Or maybe he will just pat himself on the back for turning the game around with his top notch subs and tactics....
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 22, 2019 23:09:16 GMT 1
I didn’t boo because the football was so boring that I simply couldn’t be arsed.
I can totally understand why people did at half time, it was a complete waste of time being there. Being that bored is not unusual under Ricketts. At least this time it was at home rather than after a long journey.
Another point on the board but this time against a painfully s**te opponent that we didn’t try to beat until very late on.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2019 23:11:02 GMT 1
can someone explain to me why WBA top of the championship didnt beat Barnsley at home tonight, Barnsley are bottom and why crewe top of league 2 didnt beat bottom half of table 10 man colchester at home tonight ? pilch , I know rickets is your mate and all that . But what is going on in the team that brings positivity to the place? Everyone can have an off day . Ours is a negative set up from minute 1 - every time , no matter the opponent. How could any shrewsbury fan enjoy tonight’s game ? Or the Lincoln game ? It’s just boring. if you read my comments on the gillingham thread, im far from happy about tonight, but still looking positive towards the next game but we need to be realistic, league 1 is dog eat dog, rotherham probably expected to beat us the other week, Lincoln probably fancied their chances, so did Tranmere who then went to coventry next game and won, Sunderland think they should be walking the league, go back over the years, Man City needed a play off miracle to get out, moneybags Fulham failed, Leeds failed, many others have failed after throwing serious money at it, bury tried chucking extra money at it..... we are shrewsbury, an average league one side, always have been , probably always will for me this season , anything that doesn't resemble a relegation battle is progress but too many toys are out of the pram on some of these posts I've replied to them in the style of poking a animal in a cage with a stick , its seems its entertainment they want, so I thought I'd try and help out ;-)
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 22, 2019 23:15:13 GMT 1
can someone explain to me why WBA top of the championship didnt beat Barnsley at home tonight, Barnsley are bottom and why crewe top of league 2 didnt beat bottom half of table 10 man colchester at home tonight ? We’re here to comment on whether we thought Shrewsbury played well, not to compare us to random teams who probably should have beaten their opponents tonight.. as if it has any relevance whatsoever to Shrewsbury Town boring their fans to tears. I should imagine those teams fans are having a right good moan, mind, and rightly so..
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Post by frankwellshrews on Oct 22, 2019 23:15:22 GMT 1
Giles has been dining out off that opening game for far too long. Norburn pinged a superb cross field ball to him in the first half but instead of attacking his man and putting them on the back foot he froze for a moment and passed the ball back, whereupon we just passed it from side to side again as per usual.
Then when he did well to dispossess one if their midfielders and break he just gives the ball away almost straight away. He has flashes of quality but maybe needs a break? No cover at that position though.
Neither his nor Love's crossing is remotely consistent either.
I rate Goss but one of Norburn or Laurent needs to be dropped for a more out and out attack minded centre midfielder which, despite having signed about 12 players in that position, we don't have.
Beckles did well in defence and contributed a goal; the other 2 guilty of a couple of unforced wayward passes though, disappointing to see. Another decent performance from O Leary tjough, as far as it went.
Up front, what to say? We just don't seem to know what the plan is. To be fair, the loss of Lang is a blow. Lang did so much running and drew players, creating space for Cummings. Udoh just seems to be an out and out striker so Cummings ended up doing the Lang role tonight. You'd have to think one of Whalley or Okenabirie are the best choices to partner Cummings in Lang's absence, probably Whalley based on Feji's current slump in form.
Ultimately though, we seem to have an unbalanced squad, reminiscent of Mellon's last season. I'm not sure we've got the personnel to make this system work (by my reckoning we're missing cover in the wing back positions, a John Nolan type attacking midfielder and maybe a target man up front, preferrably one thst actually wants to play for us) but I also don't think there's an obvious alternative with this squad.
Feels like Sam's painted himself into a corner with a long two months ahead before we can strengthen. Our best hope at the moment is to keep grinding out draws and relying on the frankly woeful standard of some of the other teams in this division to chuck a couple of points our way.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2019 23:21:39 GMT 1
pilch , I know rickets is your mate and all that . But what is going on in the team that brings positivity to the place? Everyone can have an off day . Ours is a negative set up from minute 1 - every time , no matter the opponent. How could any shrewsbury fan enjoy tonight’s game ? Or the Lincoln game ? It’s just boring. if you read my comments on the gillingham thread, im far from happy about tonight, but still looking positive towards the next game but we need to be realistic, league 1 is dog eat dog, rotherham probably expected to beat us the other week, Lincoln probably fancied their chances, so did Tranmere who then went to coventry next game and won, Sunderland think they should be walking the league, go back over the years, Man City needed a play off miracle to get out, moneybags Fulham failed, Leeds failed, many others have failed after throwing serious money at it, bury tried chucking extra money at it..... we are shrewsbury, an average league one side, always have been , probably always will for me this season , anything that doesn't resemble a relegation battle is progress but too many toys are out of the pram on some of these posts I've replied to them in the style of poking a animal in a cage with a stick , its seems its entertainment they want, so I thought I'd try and help out ;-) Did you go tonight?
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2019 23:27:06 GMT 1
Giles has been dining out off that opening game for far too long. Norburn pinged a superb cross field ball to him in the first half but instead of attacking his man and putting them on the back foot he froze for a moment and passed the ball back, whereupon we just passed it from side to side again as per usual. Then when he did well to dispossess one if their midfielders and break he just gives the ball away almost straight away. He has flashes of quality but maybe needs a break? No cover at that position though. Neither his nor Love's crossing is remotely consistent either. Giles is our main goal threat. Everything of quality usually goes through this man. The players know this hence why everyone looked for him every time they had a bit of space. The lad was knackered after 75 minutes and I'm not surprised. I'd love to see him on the left wing with an attacking rb behind him.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2019 23:29:49 GMT 1
can someone explain to me why WBA top of the championship didnt beat Barnsley at home tonight, Barnsley are bottom and why crewe top of league 2 didnt beat bottom half of table 10 man colchester at home tonight ? We’re here to comment on whether we thought Shrewsbury played well, not to compare us to random teams who probably should have beaten their opponents tonight.. as if it has any relevance whatsoever to Shrewsbury Town boring their fans to tears. I should imagine those teams fans are having a right good moan, mind, and rightly so.. I was just pointing out that football results are not decided by the form book some people think we had gods given right to win tonight and want answers if that late header had sneaked in, all would have been forgiven and forgotton
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2019 23:30:58 GMT 1
if you read my comments on the gillingham thread, im far from happy about tonight, but still looking positive towards the next game but we need to be realistic, league 1 is dog eat dog, rotherham probably expected to beat us the other week, Lincoln probably fancied their chances, so did Tranmere who then went to coventry next game and won, Sunderland think they should be walking the league, go back over the years, Man City needed a play off miracle to get out, moneybags Fulham failed, Leeds failed, many others have failed after throwing serious money at it, bury tried chucking extra money at it..... we are shrewsbury, an average league one side, always have been , probably always will for me this season , anything that doesn't resemble a relegation battle is progress but too many toys are out of the pram on some of these posts I've replied to them in the style of poking a animal in a cage with a stick , its seems its entertainment they want, so I thought I'd try and help out ;-) Did you go tonight? of course I went, like I said, I gave my views on the gillingham thread
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 23:35:42 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is.
That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team)
Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure.
As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built.
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 22, 2019 23:39:55 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is. That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team) Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure. As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built. I get your point but unless this style gets you in the top 6 or challenging close to it, the level of entertainment it produces will leave the club without any business. It’s all linked.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Oct 22, 2019 23:41:26 GMT 1
Giles has been dining out off that opening game for far too long. Norburn pinged a superb cross field ball to him in the first half but instead of attacking his man and putting them on the back foot he froze for a moment and passed the ball back, whereupon we just passed it from side to side again as per usual. Then when he did well to dispossess one if their midfielders and break he just gives the ball away almost straight away. He has flashes of quality but maybe needs a break? No cover at that position though. Neither his nor Love's crossing is remotely consistent either. Giles is our main goal threat. Everything of quality usually goes through this man. The players know this hence why everyone looked for him every time they had a bit of space. The lad was knackered after 75 minutes and I'm not surprised. I'd love to see him on the left wing with an attacking rb behind him. Not sure I agree. Our goal tonight came from a Goss cross, our best chance to win from Love. I think the players look for him because we're bereft of ideas; we've a "crab" midfield and he gets forward more than Love.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 23:43:11 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is. That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team) Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure. As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built. I get your point but unless this style gets you in the top 6 or challenging close to it, the level of entertainment is produces will leave the club without any business. It’s all linked. Is it? I failed to see a drop in attendances when we were relegated to the conference or in any of our numerous relegation battling s**t football seasons.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Oct 22, 2019 23:51:56 GMT 1
I find it cringeworthy when fans boo their own team because it wasn't entertaining or they didn't win. Sat near a bloke tonight with his child and he was booing in line with a few others and it made me wonder what he would do or think if his son was having a bad day on a Sunday morning playing for his local team, would he boo them too. Shaun Whalley summed up the difference when he played a ball to Giles down the line and it span out of Giles control, and did he berate him for it, no, he applauded him and gave encouragement to the lad. Anyone who works with people will know that berating and criticising is not the way to improve performance, it is just a cheap shot that people use when they cannot do it any better themselves. Incidentally I didn't enjoy the game but I could say that for alot of games I have seen over the years, and no doubt will continue to do so, being a realist I expect nothing more or nothing less.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 23, 2019 0:12:37 GMT 1
I don’t boo
Tonight was a very poor day at the office. Mr Ricketts knows that and doesn’t need the fans berating players to remind him.
However some of these bad days are becoming too frequent. The first half tonight reminded me of the Fleetwood game.
We don’t need to be cautious at home.
We need Jon Nolan back, rapido
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Post by TheFoz on Oct 23, 2019 0:14:19 GMT 1
Some fans really need to get a grip. We are 4 points off the play offs with a game in hand over a few teams above us? What more did you expect?
In League One particularly, we have been so much worse. I understand fans booing when we are underperforming but we aren’t doing that at the moment. Going forward we aren’t great but defensively we look very solid (conceded the same amount as 2nd placed Wycombe).
Good things take time, just be patient. We have a solid base to build off, with the defence. Ricketts must now get the team creating more and being a threat to the opposition.
If you want to watch free flowing, attacking, winning football each week, Shrewsbury Town probably isn’t the club to support.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 23, 2019 0:24:53 GMT 1
I don’t boo Tonight was a very poor day at the office. Mr Ricketts knows that and doesn’t need the fans berating players to remind him. However some of these bad days are becoming too frequent. The first half tonight reminded me of the Fleetwood game. We don’t need to be cautious at home. We need Jon Nolan back, rapido Nolan was overrated and would add nothing but another sideways passer to the midfield. Docherty is who I'd pay very, very good money to have back!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 23, 2019 0:37:56 GMT 1
It certainly wasn't a wasted evening. Our little group had a nice chat about the rugby world cup, we also touched on the goings on at a couple of local pubs. When we got back to our little enclave, Juan of the Sovereign club members was in the pub with his guest from the game. Not sure what b&a member, minor, had done to upset him, but I'll bet he doesn't do it again...... Don't know how many of you have ran a bus from outlying areas and tried to drum up support to keep it running. There's no Bank of England waiting to bale you out. If you lose cash, it comes out of your own pocket. The bus company are a business, and quite rightly want their money. So if you want sympathy, it's in the Oxford Dictionary between s**t and syphilis. It's fair to say, the paying passengers weren't impressed with the fayre on offer tonight.
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Post by kuffdam72 on Oct 23, 2019 1:02:54 GMT 1
Booing your own team is just absolutely p**s poor . Why do people do it . To just stand there and go “boo , boo “ wtf is that all about . Utterly and completely embarrassing apart from being childish in the extreme. I get p**sed off but would never dream of booing my own team. Get a f.ckin grip for Christ sake or if people can’t , stay at home and boo at the tv . Bloody imbeciles. the voice of Corbyn 😉
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 3:33:15 GMT 1
can someone explain to me why WBA top of the championship didnt beat Barnsley at home tonight, Barnsley are bottom and why crewe top of league 2 didnt beat bottom half of table 10 man colchester at home tonight ? It’s bloody obvious to me , you really should pay more attention . Their fans didn’t “ Boo “ enough . That’s it in a nutshell. It’s a well known fact that the more fans “Boo” the better teams play . I encourage all fans to turn up on Saturday prepared to “Boo “ their ballocks off . It will ensure 3 points and a hefty goal difference to boot . Always here to offer advice .
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Post by Dale on Oct 23, 2019 6:22:58 GMT 1
I never wanted Ricketts in charge in the first place, I wanted him gone at the end of last season and I still want him out tonight. Why? Because there's no entertainment. I've forked out a fortune so far this season following this club up and down the country (including Friday's borefest at Lincoln) and I'm slowly getting fed up now. I almost went to the ticket office after the game to ask for a refund on my Wycombe away ticket in 2 weeks time. Paying £20 each week (excluding travel expenses) and getting next to no entertainment. Get Ricketts out before we lose some more fans. I still feel we should have gone for Mike Flynn from Newport instead of Ricketts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 6:44:24 GMT 1
I don’t boo Tonight was a very poor day at the office. Mr Ricketts knows that and doesn’t need the fans berating players to remind him. However some of these bad days are becoming too frequent. The first half tonight reminded me of the Fleetwood game. We don’t need to be cautious at home. We need Jon Nolan back, rapido Nolan was overrated and would add nothing but another sideways passer to the midfield. Docherty is who I'd pay very, very good money to have back! Practically everything we did as an attacking force in a season in which we finished third ran through 'overrated' Jon Nolan.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2019 7:10:36 GMT 1
Booing your own team is just absolutely p**s poor . Why do people do it . To just stand there and go “boo , boo “ wtf is that all about . Utterly and completely embarrassing apart from being childish in the extreme. I get p**sed off but would never dream of booing my own team. Get a f.ckin grip for Christ sake or if people can’t , stay at home and boo at the tv . Bloody imbeciles. I’d be amazed if anyone is booing the team. The team are carrying out the managers instructions of being boring & negative... This is how I see it too. I don't think anyone is looking to the players, I don't think anyone is blaming or booing the players. I think its a bunch of fans at half time sending a message to the manager that whatever you're trying to do isn't working and not only that, its ****ing awful to watch. And it is. Not that I bother to boo myself at games but really can't have a dig at those who did so last night. From start to finish last night that was an awful game of football. And I don't think its the fans who are the only ones who are frustrated. The amount of times Fey was running about the place last night running after and then fouling the opposition...he came across as frustrated as the rest of us.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 23, 2019 7:26:52 GMT 1
4 points off the playoffs?
Unsure what fans are expecting?
After being in the Ricketts out side he has me personally onboard now.
Are we easy on the eye? No clearly not, but we are solid and we don't lose many games.
Anyone who watched the game yesterday will clearly see Ricketts was there on the touchline trying to encourage his team to push forward.
All depends what you want for us exciting football or results?
After two seasons of extremes maybe a solid midtable season to stabilise is what we need.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 23, 2019 7:40:20 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is. That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team) Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure. As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built. I see the mid table position we have as being a chance to play slightly more expansive football, and given that Bury have gone and Bolton look doomed the fact there are only two relegation places means we can experiment a bit more with the team and tactics to help us build for next season I think it’s fair comment to question why a five man defence and two sitting midfielders was played against a side with no away wins this season I’m not suggesting we go gun ho with 5 up front but a bit more flexibility is needed to bring the best out of what is on paper a decent squad
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 7:46:47 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is. That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team) Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure. As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built. I see the mid table position we have as being a chance to play slightly more expansive football, and given that Bury have gone and Bolton look doomed the fact there are only two relegation places means we can experiment a bit more with the team and tactics to help us build for next season I think it’s fair comment to question why a five man defence and two sitting midfielders was played against a side with no away wins this season I’m not suggesting we go gun ho with 5 up front but a bit more flexibility is needed to bring the best out of what is on paper a decent squad He literally said he expects more intensity in his post match. He sees where the issues are. Some just don't have patience.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 23, 2019 7:47:52 GMT 1
It certainly wasn't a wasted evening. Our little group had a nice chat about the rugby world cup, we also touched on the goings on at a couple of local pubs. When we got back to our little enclave, Juan of the Sovereign club members was in the pub with his guest from the game. Not sure what b&a member, minor, had done to upset him, but I'll bet he doesn't do it again...... Don't know how many of you have ran a bus from outlying areas and tried to drum up support to keep it running. There's no Bank of England waiting to bale you out. If you lose cash, it comes out of your own pocket. The bus company are a business, and quite rightly want their money. So if you want sympathy, it's in the Oxford Dictionary between s**t and syphilis. It's fair to say, the paying passengers weren't impressed with the fayre on offer tonight. Never let the football get in the way of a good day out at the football...👍
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Post by shrewsace on Oct 23, 2019 8:00:00 GMT 1
I have found watching football under Ricketts a largely joyless experience.
That said, yes, I do expect us to win every game by a double figure margin and am actively considering supporting Man City instead.
Sorry, but the business-like approach that has yielded results such as the 3-0 home defeat to Fleetwood Town has left me no choice but to transfer my loyalties to the Etihad. Or maybe Anfield.
Choices, choices...
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Oct 23, 2019 8:08:42 GMT 1
The only reason people are getting in a flap about the situation we’re in, is because of the season we got to the playoff final under hurst.
People dared to dream, we were very close to being a championship club - imagine! People forget the 20 years previous s**te football, any thing less than playoffs is now viewed as failure. Lets take that one season out of the equation and this is probably the healthiest we’ve been in the league for 30 years..? And everyone would be buzzing that we’re only 4 points off the playoffs.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 23, 2019 8:14:20 GMT 1
We're a distinctly average l1 side with a young manager. We're mid table fodder like a third of the league is. That's progress on our last few decades of football (aside from a freak season where we had 2 future England International and two championship level players in the spine of our team) Obviously frustrating for some. Quite why they feel the need to boo im not overly sure. As for those demanding 'entertainment'. Football is a business and has been for a number of years now. This is people's livelihoods and jobs. It'd be nice if we play free flowing gegenpress football but I'm afraid that's now how we're built. I think it’s fair comment to question why a five man defence and two sitting midfielders was played against a side with no away wins this season This is why fans were booing. Nothing to do with the players but Ricketts stubbornness in starting so defensively (and then spends the game encouraging the players forward).......... Ricketts has built a team with the ability to compete but hasn’t got a clue on how to set them up and adapt the style to take advantage of other teams limitations. I can only imagine training is as haphazard for the team as the way they’re set up for a game....
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