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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 18, 2019 20:52:50 GMT 1
I’ve been watching football, including Town for over 50 years, and I’ve always thought the different formations are given too much importance.
much has been made of our 3 5 2 and how negative it is. On paper , it’s more attacking than a 4 4 2 or 4 5 1, so why is it a problem?
Also, seems to me that Giles is effectively playing as a winger, and tried to get to the by-line, which he did often, except the crosses were poor.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2019 22:43:24 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 18, 2019 23:32:41 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far You continuing to lay into last years top scorer is getting boring. Yes, he hasn't been as effective so far, but you don't need to lay into a young striker who stepped up multiple leagues at every single opportunity.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 19, 2019 7:36:48 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far Ferjiri plays best when he is on the shoulder of a defender with the ball played on the groud to him .so we are not playing to his strengths. most of the goals he has scored have been in the box or on the edge of the box. he is not going to win the long ball which we use a lot, however if he is going to score both he and morrison need to get a better understanding than they have at the moment. but it is all about opinions you dont seem to rate him and you are entitled to your view
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Post by masshrop on Aug 19, 2019 7:46:28 GMT 1
iv said previously we no goals in team , defenders dont attack ball as good as scapegoat waterfall did , midfielders dont get in box too busy sat in obviously under instruction & strikers at moment couldn't hit barn door going to be long season trying to avoid bottom 4, so far i know it's only 3 games but apart from worldie off giles do we even look like scoring ?
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Post by criftins on Aug 19, 2019 8:38:56 GMT 1
For me we should be playing either 442 as clearly Giles and Whalley are wingers and good ones at that or 451 which again would accommodate both of them. The current formation is too defensive and has numerous players not playing in their best position including Fej. Come on Ricketts you’ve got to try something different v Stanley
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 8:47:38 GMT 1
For me we should be playing either 442 as clearly Giles and Whalley are wingers and good ones at that or 451 which again would accommodate both of them. The current formation is too defensive and has numerous players not playing in their best position including Fej. Come on Ricketts you’ve got to try something different v Stanley Wait what? If his best position isn't striker what is?
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Post by criftins on Aug 19, 2019 9:24:12 GMT 1
What I mean is currently playing with Morrison isn’t working ! Would he be better playing slightly deeper or with a more nimble speedy striker in the Campbell mould
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Post by ollieshrews on Aug 19, 2019 9:58:37 GMT 1
I’ve been watching football, including Town for over 50 years, and I’ve always thought the different formations are given too much importance. much has been made of our 3 5 2 and how negative it is. On paper , it’s more attacking than a 4 4 2 or 4 5 1, so why is it a problem? Also, seems to me that Giles is effectively playing as a winger, and tried to get to the by-line, which he did often, except the crosses were poor. Totally agree. We actually discuss this point on the podcast this week.
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Post by tdk on Aug 19, 2019 10:50:35 GMT 1
I think our key players are:- Giles and Whalley as wingers, Pierre as central defender, Love as full back Fej as finisher, ie getting on the end of crosses Norburn and possibly Laurent as centre mid
I would like to see our tactics designed to bring out the best of these players, not the players fit the tactical system
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Post by venceremos on Aug 19, 2019 10:57:50 GMT 1
Giles is on loan from Wolves as a wing back. They also play 3 at the back and might not be best pleased if we reconvert him into a winger. A season playing as a League 1 winger won't have done so much for his development when he returns to Wolves.
Does that matter? Yes, probably, if we want to build a productive relationship with Wolves for the future and not just this season.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 19, 2019 10:59:39 GMT 1
iv said previously we no goals in team , defenders dont attack ball as good as scapegoat waterfall did , midfielders dont get in box too busy sat in obviously under instruction & strikers at moment couldn't hit barn door going to be long season trying to avoid bottom 4, so far i know it's only 3 games but apart from worldie off giles do we even look like scoring ? On the other hand, apart from a flukey defensive mistake from EEL, do we even look like conceding? Surely we have to give it more than 3 games? Even John Askey (3 points from first 6 games) was given a bit more slack than some are giving Ricketts with his new team.
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Post by greeny on Aug 19, 2019 11:18:56 GMT 1
iv said previously we no goals in team , defenders dont attack ball as good as scapegoat waterfall did , midfielders dont get in box too busy sat in obviously under instruction & strikers at moment couldn't hit barn door going to be long season trying to avoid bottom 4, so far i know it's only 3 games but apart from worldie off giles do we even look like scoring ? You are seriously saying Waterfall is better than our current defenders? Don’t attack the ball? Deary me. Waterfall ran out of the back 3 to ‘attack’ the ball and left the other 2 to fill in for him. Our current back 3 hold their position and work as a unit which is why we’ve conceded very few chances so far. We need midfielders who are comfortable on the ball and give us a bit more time to transition from defense to attack. McCormick looks like he can’t wait to get rid of the ball at the moment and needs to be receiving the ball further up the pitch. Goss played some really clever balls on Saturday and when Norburn is back he will add to that. Think a few more games are needed before you start to panic completely. Wait until the end of the window. There were some decent signs on Saturday- couple of more telling crosses or passes in the final 3rd, Morison or Fej taking their clear opportunities and things would be fine!
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2019 11:20:03 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far You continuing to lay into last years top scorer is getting boring. Yes, he hasn't been as effective so far, but you don't need to lay into a young striker who stepped up multiple leagues at every single opportunity. I tell it like it is Your reply suggests you think I’m only about fejiri which says it all He was dropped Saturday and came on to miss a sitter I’d love him to bag a winner tomorrow but we live in the present and not last season and time is running out
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 19, 2019 12:03:08 GMT 1
You continuing to lay into last years top scorer is getting boring. Yes, he hasn't been as effective so far, but you don't need to lay into a young striker who stepped up multiple leagues at every single opportunity. I tell it like it is Your reply suggests you think I’m only about fejiri which says it all He was dropped Saturday and came on to miss a sitter I’d love him to bag a winner tomorrow but we live in the present and not last season and time is running out Time is running out? Were three games into the season. He's a young lad who stepped up a few divisions.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 19, 2019 12:07:41 GMT 1
I tell it like it is Your reply suggests you think I’m only about fejiri which says it all He was dropped Saturday and came on to miss a sitter I’d love him to bag a winner tomorrow but we live in the present and not last season and time is running out Time is running out? Were three games into the season. He's a young lad who stepped up a few divisions. I agree. He's a natural finisher and deserves to stay involved as the new team settles down and, hopefully, the service to the strikers improves. Time ran out for Tom Bradshaw too …... But, that said, he's under some pressure as and when we sign another striker, or if Udoh comes through quickly. Then again, so is Morison. Good thing too - we need that.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 19, 2019 12:38:04 GMT 1
Time is running out? Were three games into the season. He's a young lad who stepped up a few divisions. I agree. He's a natural finisher and deserves to stay involved as the new team settles down and, hopefully, the service to the strikers improves. Time ran out for Tom Bradshaw too …... But, that said, he's under some pressure as and when we sign another striker, or if Udoh comes through quickly. Then again, so is Morison. Good thing too - we need that. we are only a few games in players need time to build up a relationship, you would hope morrison , ferjiri/whalley are all working together in traing to build up a relationship and better understanding to work off morrisons flick on's.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2019 13:12:32 GMT 1
I tell it like it is Your reply suggests you think I’m only about fejiri which says it all He was dropped Saturday and came on to miss a sitter I’d love him to bag a winner tomorrow but we live in the present and not last season and time is running out Time is running out? Were three games into the season. He's a young lad who stepped up a few divisions. Time is running out Yes , sept 2nd the window closes Ever wondered why the number 9 shirt is still free ? It’s because we are trying desperately to fill it
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Post by jacksdad on Aug 19, 2019 13:26:10 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2019 13:40:34 GMT 1
I’ve been watching football, including Town for over 50 years, and I’ve always thought the different formations are given too much importance. much has been made of our 3 5 2 and how negative it is. On paper , it’s more attacking than a 4 4 2 or 4 5 1, so why is it a problem? Also, seems to me that Giles is effectively playing as a winger, and tried to get to the by-line, which he did often, except the crosses were poor. Because as the old saying goes, the game isn't played on paper? I mean you say that it should be more attacking than a 4-4-2 and a 4-5-1 bit the football I have seen from Town this season playing 3-5-2 doesn't bare that out. I think the formation is one of many factors that go into making a successful team and I have no doubt that players prefer a formation and role that they favour and are comfortable with. I reckon that goes for every level of football going. I think if you underestimate that then you're in a spot of trouble...
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Post by Pilch on Aug 21, 2019 19:17:41 GMT 1
las t 15 minutes of last nights game seemed like we were playing a 5 - 5 -5
amazing team spirit with all players running around like ngolo kante with the skill of Neymar
if they can turn it on again saturday we could be in for a treat
I predict 0-0 ;-)
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Post by markievw on Aug 24, 2019 4:08:28 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far Thought there were 11 players usually..
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2019 10:52:18 GMT 1
the only negative issue is we have been playing a 3-5-1 so far Thought there were 11 players usually.. Didn’t bother reading the whole thread then ?
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