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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2019 8:14:52 GMT 1
Relief after Tuesday to get a clean sheet although I wish our keeper wouldn’t punch. Piers did a good job and Beckles seems to be growing in confidence which is good to see. Love kept getting overrun but Giles was fantastic up until he seemed to pull his leg in the second half. The fact it took Rochdale to put three men on him after the break to try and stop him speaks volumes. Edwards battled well as well as the new lad which is what you want to see. Whalley never gives up does he? Really tried to take the game to Rochdale but Morrison seemed disinterested and doesn’t seem to want to make space for himself. Fey missed a sitter but got bullied off the ball when he came on after that which is a shame. We desperately need another striker to fill that number 9 shirt because that moment of quality in the final third is what we lacked today. More positives than negatives but that striker needs to come in ASAP to just give us that spark. his punching wasn't the best but in fairness last season we had a keeper that wouldn't even have come for any of those, he just needs to punch the ball higher as he seems to punch it horizontally and amazingly got away with it as for the whole game, those who look at just the fact they had 60% possession is pathetic the number of times Giles flew down the line and put decent crosses in I lost count, fejiri as I keep saying and did so last season just isn't up to it, the game could have gone either way but a draw is a fair result for the first time this season, we should have drawn the first game and won the second, then again we could have 9 points or even zero, that's the way this league is, get used to it
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Post by shrewd67 on Aug 18, 2019 8:20:02 GMT 1
Relief after Tuesday to get a clean sheet although I wish our keeper wouldn’t punch. Piers did a good job and Beckles seems to be growing in confidence which is good to see. Love kept getting overrun but Giles was fantastic up until he seemed to pull his leg in the second half. The fact it took Rochdale to put three men on him after the break to try and stop him speaks volumes. Edwards battled well as well as the new lad which is what you want to see. Whalley never gives up does he? Really tried to take the game to Rochdale but Morrison seemed disinterested and doesn’t seem to want to make space for himself. Fey missed a sitter but got bullied off the ball when he came on after that which is a shame. We desperately need another striker to fill that number 9 shirt because that moment of quality in the final third is what we lacked today. More positives than negatives but that striker needs to come in ASAP to just give us that spark. his punching wasn't the best but in fairness last season we had a keeper that wouldn't even have come for any of those, he just needs to punch the ball higher as he seems to punch it horizontally and amazingly got away with it as for the whole game, those who look at just the fact they had 60% possession is pathetic the number of times Giles flew down the line and put decent crosses in I lost count, fejiri as I keep saying and did so last season just isn't up to it, the game could have gone either way but a draw is a fair result for the first time this season, we should have drawn the first game and won the second, then again we could have 9 points or even zero, that's the way this league is, get used to it Agree on the possession, there’s too much made of it despite Leicester winning the league just a few years ago with the same % we had yesterday. It’s what you do with the ball when you have it that counts.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 18, 2019 8:37:27 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 9:06:27 GMT 1
Was it Mellon and his famous fine margins quote? If Fej scores then the reaction is similar to the Pompey game, if the disallowed goal is given them its panic stations, instead we all come away saying it was dull and going to be a long season.
Teams wont find it easy to beat us but my god its going to be hard watching us too.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 18, 2019 9:13:58 GMT 1
Would agree that Dale played the better football, moreso in the final third. But then we worked hard and we were at times able to put them on the back foot. So fair play, they are willing to put a shift in. But is just looks to be lacking structure to me, aren't yet able to go about things the way the manager would like. Well perhaps at times but seldom that's for sure. Give it time I guess...
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Post by camdenshrew on Aug 18, 2019 9:22:05 GMT 1
Good shows from Giles, Whalley, Goss and the back line but I was relieved with the draw in the end. Dale were the better team overall and we were crying out for a Plan B as the game wore on. Unfortunately, there was very little on the bench to change things and the one bloke who could have made an impact was sold to Sc***horpe last week.
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Post by Myddleshrew on Aug 18, 2019 9:32:46 GMT 1
The way I see it the back looks solid so Ricketts tactics kind of work. It’s getting that one goal to win a game is the problem we need a striker in ASAP and we have had this problem since holt left years ago. Maybe we got the Wembley and striker curse
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Post by FloreatShrew on Aug 18, 2019 10:00:10 GMT 1
Good shows from Giles, Whalley, Goss and the back line but I was relieved with the draw in the end. Dale were the better team overall and we were crying out for a Plan B as the game wore on. Unfortunately, there was very little on the bench to change things and the one bloke who could have made an impact was sold to Sc***horpe last week. You're joking right... Eisa was never the answer yesterday. Why is it players leave us and suddenly become Messi.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 18, 2019 10:13:16 GMT 1
his punching wasn't the best but in fairness last season we had a keeper that wouldn't even have come for any of those, he just needs to punch the ball higher as he seems to punch it horizontally and amazingly got away with it as for the whole game, those who look at just the fact they had 60% possession is pathetic the number of times Giles flew down the line and put decent crosses in I lost count, fejiri as I keep saying and did so last season just isn't up to it, the game could have gone either way but a draw is a fair result for the first time this season, we should have drawn the first game and won the second, then again we could have 9 points or even zero, that's the way this league is, get used to it Agree on the possession, there’s too much made of it despite Leicester winning the league just a few years ago with the same % we had yesterday. It’s what you do with the ball when you have it that counts. Agree but it does make getting in a new number 9 to make the best of the chances we get on the counter attack. Wonder if Vardy might be available on loan for us!
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 18, 2019 10:40:53 GMT 1
Good shows from Giles, Whalley, Goss and the back line but I was relieved with the draw in the end. Dale were the better team overall and we were crying out for a Plan B as the game wore on. Unfortunately, there was very little on the bench to change things and the one bloke who could have made an impact was sold to Sc***horpe last week. Strange. I never miss a game and have rarely seen him make an impact in meaningful games.
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Aug 18, 2019 10:45:51 GMT 1
Thought it was a good game to watch myself and both teams played some decent stuff. Not sure how people saw Rochdale as the better side as we created the better chances and got around the back of them on quite a few occasions, just missing with the final ball. Possession counts for nothing as far as who played best, and not sure why some are using this as a stick to beat the team, I suppose they need something to moan about when there is little else. We had 3 great chances in the second half to win it and Rochdale had 1 (disallowed goal). As I said thought it was a good game to watch and a big improvement on last year, and Rochdale are a good side who have started well so no given right to be turning them over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 11:03:49 GMT 1
Entertainment may be in short supply at the NM this season. 1 goal in 4 games so far, let's hope for an improvement before long.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 18, 2019 11:13:10 GMT 1
Thought Giles was decent enough in getting forward and beating his man but was disappointed with his delivery. I mean when he actually made the decision to try and put the ball in (many a time he didn't look to do so).
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Post by philharvey on Aug 18, 2019 11:14:45 GMT 1
Just hope that we can get some one in to sort out our goal tally.
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Post by wayahead on Aug 18, 2019 11:38:41 GMT 1
First 30 minutes was even, next 30 minutes we were clearly on top, final 30 minutes we looked ropey. That coincided with Morison being bone idle in the first thirty, livening up in the next 30 and then being subbed off. We need a striker !!! for an outlet if nothing else. O'Leary - 6 - Fortunate with some blocks and wayward shooting, but looked solid enough although with an increasing tendency to punch that got a bit worrying. Love - 8 - Excellent game, really starting to like him - good defending and always available going forward. Beckles - 6 - a couple of mistakes in him, but generally ok with some Grandison-esque touches and tries his heart out. Ebanks Landell - 6 - odd mistake, but generally solid Pierre - 9 - fantastic runs forward and very solid defensively - the new Tommy Lynch ? Giles - 7 - good game, good player - would like to see him take on players more. Goss - 6 - Solid game given he joined at the end of the week - much better corners and freekicks than Whalley, much better option that Rowland or Walker - did not look out of place at all. Edwards - 8 - Covered a lot of ground getting in to the box and tracking back, some great flicks. McCormick - 7 - Best game so far for me - did not look out of place. Morrison - 5 - Was not in the game at all for the first 30 minutes, then some great touches and he tried a bit more. Whalley - 7 - Just like on Tuesday he chased everything. Thompson - 5 - was expecting more, a bit anonymous. Okenabhirie - 5 - could not get in the game and was a bit unlucky - looked like he missed a sitter and felt he got pulled down in the box later on (maybe VAR would have helped) but he tried to stay upright and it knocked him off balance. Well apart from Morrison, they all did very well. Opinions are magical. We were not that good yesterday.
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 18, 2019 11:54:35 GMT 1
First 30 minutes was even, next 30 minutes we were clearly on top, final 30 minutes we looked ropey. That coincided with Morison being bone idle in the first thirty, livening up in the next 30 and then being subbed off. We need a striker !!! for an outlet if nothing else. O'Leary - 6 - Fortunate with some blocks and wayward shooting, but looked solid enough although with an increasing tendency to punch that got a bit worrying. Love - 8 - Excellent game, really starting to like him - good defending and always available going forward. Beckles - 6 - a couple of mistakes in him, but generally ok with some Grandison-esque touches and tries his heart out. Ebanks Landell - 6 - odd mistake, but generally solid Pierre - 9 - fantastic runs forward and very solid defensively - the new Tommy Lynch ? Giles - 7 - good game, good player - would like to see him take on players more. Goss - 6 - Solid game given he joined at the end of the week - much better corners and freekicks than Whalley, much better option that Rowland or Walker - did not look out of place at all. Edwards - 8 - Covered a lot of ground getting in to the box and tracking back, some great flicks. McCormick - 7 - Best game so far for me - did not look out of place. Morrison - 5 - Was not in the game at all for the first 30 minutes, then some great touches and he tried a bit more. Whalley - 7 - Just like on Tuesday he chased everything. Thompson - 5 - was expecting more, a bit anonymous. Okenabhirie - 5 - could not get in the game and was a bit unlucky - looked like he missed a sitter and felt he got pulled down in the box later on (maybe VAR would have helped) but he tried to stay upright and it knocked him off balance. Well apart from Morrison, they all did very well. Opinions are magical. We were not that good yesterday. If we'd had a half decent front line we would have won which is not bad; and we didn't lose as we would have last season. Compared to Tuesday night that performance was fantastic, compared to Barcelona it was dire.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 18, 2019 12:53:57 GMT 1
We were alright.
Ricketts is right to point out the number of new players we have. It's going to take more than 3 games for them to bed in and we all know that - don't we?
The key is getting the midfield settled. Goss grew into the game and has some fine passes in him, which we've been lacking. He also looks better than we've had from corners. Get him and Thompson properly settled in, Norburn and Laurent back fit and we could look a much more positive team.
Thought Love was very good yesterday - probably saved a goal with that run back and tackle. Giles was able to get forward more and is obviously a threat to any League 1 defence when he does. Whalley was busy and caused problems but there was no real end product. Morison disappointing - thought he could have made more effort to get on the end of Goss' free kick.
I think Ricketts is right that we needed to build the team from the back. The signings there and in midfield look promising. My concern is whether he has the time to build a team like that in League 1. The squad changes every year - we need a more potent attack early this season, not some time later.
But I'll be patient because we're doing better than last season and I think we should improve significantly as the team settles. I have to say I was a bit bored at times yesterday but …. early days. Get a decent striker in and let's see how we look in the autumn.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 18, 2019 13:19:16 GMT 1
We are 12th in League One after three games with a new team getting to know each other and the likelihood of two new strikers being brought in soon. Ill take that. In fact give me the same position in the table at the end of the season and it would be acceptable to me although I am hoping for top ten.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 18, 2019 13:43:30 GMT 1
his punching wasn't the best but in fairness last season we had a keeper that wouldn't even have come for any of those, he just needs to punch the ball higher as he seems to punch it horizontally and amazingly got away with it as for the whole game, those who look at just the fact they had 60% possession is pathetic the number of times Giles flew down the line and put decent crosses in I lost count, fejiri as I keep saying and did so last season just isn't up to it, the game could have gone either way but a draw is a fair result for the first time this season, we should have drawn the first game and won the second, then again we could have 9 points or even zero, that's the way this league is, get used to it Agree on the possession, there’s too much made of it despite Leicester winning the league just a few years ago with the same % we had yesterday. It’s what you do with the ball when you have it that counts. my only concern about conceding so much possession is invites pressuer and that is tiring for the defence.very true about the importance of what we do when we have the ball whilst Giles causes a lot of problems, when you know most of the time the ball will get in the box it is up to the forwards to get on the end of them.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2019 15:30:57 GMT 1
again the possession seems to be a vague stat
I reckon a lot of our possession was in their 3rd but most of rochdales possession was a lot deeper and causing us no problem
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Post by venceremos on Aug 18, 2019 17:38:44 GMT 1
again the possession seems to be a vague stat I reckon a lot of our possession was in their 3rd but most of rochdales possession was a lot deeper and causing us no problem Good point. We weren’t pushed back in the first half hour, it seemed a deliberate ploy to sit deep, so they had a lot of time on the ball with no pressure applied and knocked it around without hurting us. Second half was different, we pressed much more and they tried to play out from the back. Thought it was quite an odd game!
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 18, 2019 17:47:07 GMT 1
First 30 minutes was even, next 30 minutes we were clearly on top, final 30 minutes we looked ropey. That coincided with Morison being bone idle in the first thirty, livening up in the next 30 and then being subbed off. We need a striker !!! for an outlet if nothing else. O'Leary - 6 - Fortunate with some blocks and wayward shooting, but looked solid enough although with an increasing tendency to punch that got a bit worrying. Love - 8 - Excellent game, really starting to like him - good defending and always available going forward. Beckles - 6 - a couple of mistakes in him, but generally ok with some Grandison-esque touches and tries his heart out. Ebanks Landell - 6 - odd mistake, but generally solid Pierre - 9 - fantastic runs forward and very solid defensively - the new Tommy Lynch ? Giles - 7 - good game, good player - would like to see him take on players more. Goss - 6 - Solid game given he joined at the end of the week - much better corners and freekicks than Whalley, much better option that Rowland or Walker - did not look out of place at all. Edwards - 8 - Covered a lot of ground getting in to the box and tracking back, some great flicks. McCormick - 7 - Best game so far for me - did not look out of place. Morrison - 5 - Was not in the game at all for the first 30 minutes, then some great touches and he tried a bit more. Whalley - 7 - Just like on Tuesday he chased everything. Thompson - 5 - was expecting more, a bit anonymous. Okenabhirie - 5 - could not get in the game and was a bit unlucky - looked like he missed a sitter and felt he got pulled down in the box later on (maybe VAR would have helped) but he tried to stay upright and it knocked him off balance. Edwards an 8... better than Whalley? Well, I never knew David posted on here!
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Post by masshrop on Aug 18, 2019 19:54:24 GMT 1
nobody deserves marks 8/10 9/10 in a dull / drab football match
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 20:20:45 GMT 1
It's all very well conceding possession and ground, but eventually it will cause problems if we don't take the few chances that come our way.
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Post by masshrop on Aug 19, 2019 7:49:25 GMT 1
7/1/2 formation not helping ok going to be difficult to break down but at some point you have to score to win a football match negative norris.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 19, 2019 10:24:14 GMT 1
It's all very well conceding possession and ground, but eventually it will cause problems if we don't take the few chances that come our way. with conceeding so much possession(somthing we have done so far) the defence and holding midfielder have to work very hard, too often the clearence comes straight back or teams play high are parked in our third and are winninmg too many 50 - 50 balls . we are going to really miss pierre when he goes on international duties. we need to learn to manage the game better and slow it down to give the defence a rest. it will be intresting to see if our distribution improves with goss and what impact Norburn will have when fit. ricketts in todays star is looking for another forward.
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