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Post by venceremos on Aug 15, 2019 23:45:03 GMT 1
Ince and Campbell started their managerial careers at Macclesfield. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any recent white ex-internationals who started at that level. There was certainly never a prospect of Gerrard or Lampard having to get their hands so dirty. It could be a coincidence. On the other hand, prejudice isn't always obvious or even intended. How about Geoff Hurst ............ recent
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Post by accordingtome on Aug 16, 2019 7:27:06 GMT 1
People are just fickle and are too quick to judge. After Portsmouth the sense on here was that we might be going under the radar, everything feels right, we could have a surprisingly exciting season. We get robbed at Milton Keynes then lose against a good side where we make 8 changes including a couple of kids then all of a sudden it’s Ricketts out and this is a terrible team. The knee jerk reactions on this forum and speed people change their opinions based on one or two games are embarrassing to the point it’s almost unreadable and the main reason I don’t read/post as much as I once would have. Well I hope Ricketts repays your faith in him by getting us back on track Saturday against Rochdale. For my part not fickle. I’ve never rated him from day one and still think he is way out of depth. seconded
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Aug 18, 2019 22:26:18 GMT 1
Perhaps Campbell will now be offered the top Premier League job that's he's always felt that he is entitled too. The only reason he hasn't is because he's black, apparently. That's also the reason he wasn't captain of the national team. Ince and Campbell started their managerial careers at Macclesfield. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any recent white ex-internationals who started at that level. There was certainly never a prospect of Gerrard or Lampard having to get their hands so dirty. It could be a coincidence. On the other hand, prejudice isn't always obvious or even intended. John Barnes started at Celtic.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 19, 2019 12:01:38 GMT 1
Ince and Campbell started their managerial careers at Macclesfield. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any recent white ex-internationals who started at that level. There was certainly never a prospect of Gerrard or Lampard having to get their hands so dirty. It could be a coincidence. On the other hand, prejudice isn't always obvious or even intended. John Barnes started at Celtic. Good point - I'd forgotten that one.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 19, 2019 14:25:48 GMT 1
Kevin Nolan (Leyton Orient & Notts County, Teddy Sherringham (Stevenage), Kevin Davies (Southport), Nev Southall (Dover)....for starters
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 19, 2019 14:29:17 GMT 1
Tim Flowers (Solihull Moors, Kevin Ratcliffe (Chester & Salop)
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 19, 2019 14:35:18 GMT 1
Tony Adams at Wycombe - Campbell's old partner in the centre of England's defence - Mark Wright at Chester, Robbie Fowler at, er, that Thai side, Ian Rush at Chester.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 19, 2019 14:50:38 GMT 1
Kevin Nolan (Leyton Orient & Notts County, Teddy Sherringham (Stevenage), Kevin Davies (Southport), Nev Southall (Dover)....for starters All good examples. Some people like to just fabricate an issue that doesn't exist to suit their agenda. Sol has had a massive chip on his shoulder for years. That said, he did very well in the job over the few months he was there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:53:05 GMT 1
A bit harsh, beat Portsmouth, against MK we were worth a draw. One charge that would stand up against Ricketts: 8 changes leading to total embarrassment and an error of judgement against a team just down from the Championship, Inexperience or incompetence? People are just fickle and are too quick to judge. After Portsmouth the sense on here was that we might be going under the radar, everything feels right, we could have a surprisingly exciting season. We get robbed at Milton Keynes then lose against a good side where we make 8 changes including a couple of kids then all of a sudden it’s Ricketts out and this is a terrible team. The knee jerk reactions on this forum and speed people change their opinions based on one or two games are embarrassing to the point it’s almost unreadable and the main reason I don’t read/post as much as I once would have. Excellent post sir!!
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 19, 2019 15:03:06 GMT 1
Kevin Nolan (Leyton Orient & Notts County, Teddy Sherringham (Stevenage), Kevin Davies (Southport), Nev Southall (Dover)....for starters All good examples. Some people like to just fabricate an issue that doesn't exist to suit their agenda. Sol has had a massive chip on his shoulder for years. That said, he did very well in the job over the few months he was there. And Sam Ricketts!
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Aug 19, 2019 20:36:31 GMT 1
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Post by tvor on Oct 22, 2019 19:37:28 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 19:53:12 GMT 1
Slowly moving up the leagues...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 21:26:27 GMT 1
Not a good evening for his new club 😕
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Post by tvor on Oct 22, 2019 21:38:56 GMT 1
Not a good evening for his new club 😕 Now 1-7
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 22, 2019 22:24:28 GMT 1
It wont take very much to make them a little better than they are, but he has got a job on his hands to improve them enough to keep them up.
They even scored first tonight to go 1-0 up and had 2 players red carded.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 23, 2019 15:04:49 GMT 1
It wont take very much to make them a little better than they are, but he has got a job on his hands to improve them enough to keep them up. They even scored first tonight to go 1-0 up and had 2 players red carded. I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure.
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Post by tvor on Oct 23, 2019 17:57:01 GMT 1
It wont take very much to make them a little better than they are, but he has got a job on his hands to improve them enough to keep them up. They even scored first tonight to go 1-0 up and had 2 players red carded. I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure. Who do you think is worse? Southend are currently the worse team in the division in terms of points, Bolton having seven points to their five and are only below them due to the points deduction. Bolton will probably now improve more and more. If he keeps Southend up it will be an even bigger achievement than keeping Macclesfield up. Macclesfield were five points adrift of safety when Campbell took over, Southend are eight points adrift of safety with a dreadful goal difference.
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Post by tvor on Oct 26, 2019 16:59:28 GMT 1
Just the three conceded by Southend today. Progress of sorts, but ten against in a week, ouch!
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 27, 2019 17:08:16 GMT 1
I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure. Who do you think is worse? Southend are currently the worse team in the division in terms of points, Bolton having seven points to their five and are only below them due to the points deduction. Bolton will probably now improve more and more. If he keeps Southend up it will be an even bigger achievement than keeping Macclesfield up. Macclesfield were five points adrift of safety when Campbell took over, Southend are eight points adrift of safety with a dreadful goal difference. Accrington, Wimbledon, can add that MK Dons & Tranmere are at best on par.
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Post by tvor on Dec 21, 2019 19:41:15 GMT 1
It wont take very much to make them a little better than they are, but he has got a job on his hands to improve them enough to keep them up. They even scored first tonight to go 1-0 up and had 2 players red carded. I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure. Southend now on just 7 points from 22 games and a -38 goal difference (62 goals conceded), it doesn't look like there is. At this rate they may go down with one of the worst ever records in this division.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 21, 2019 23:47:11 GMT 1
I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure. Southend now on just 7 points from 22 games and a -38 goal difference (62 goals conceded), it doesn't look like there is. At this rate they may go down with one of the worst ever records in this division. Naild on certainties to go down. You would hope that Bolton join them as well. Only 1 other spot to bother with, be quite happy to see MK take that one.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 22, 2019 10:31:31 GMT 1
Does look curtains for Southend. Considering the points deduction Bolton suffered it would certainly take some doing to finish below them but Southend look set to do just that. Must be a hell of a mess down there, things must be in a right state behind the scenes. Campbell seems to have walked away from one crisis to another.
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 22, 2019 13:33:49 GMT 1
I suspect he'll keep them up, there's worse than them in the league for sure. Southend now on just 7 points from 22 games and a -38 goal difference (62 goals conceded), it doesn't look like there is. At this rate they may go down with one of the worst ever records in this division. Hindsight is wonderful, they looked decent at our place though.
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Post by tvor on Dec 22, 2019 21:14:29 GMT 1
Southend now on just 7 points from 22 games and a -38 goal difference (62 goals conceded), it doesn't look like there is. At this rate they may go down with one of the worst ever records in this division. Hindsight is wonderful, they looked decent at our place though. No hindsight required to see just how bad they were then and still are.
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Post by martinshrew on Dec 22, 2019 21:20:46 GMT 1
Hindsight is wonderful, they looked decent at our place though. No hindsight required to see just how bad they were then and still are. We have one of the better defences in the league and they put three past us away from home. They looked ok to me that night, certainly going forwards.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 22, 2019 21:42:35 GMT 1
No hindsight required to see just how bad they were then and still are. We have one of the better defences in the league and they put three past us away from home. They looked ok to me that night, certainly going forwards. But as we are fast finding out a good team is built with a good defence. With a poor defence you are nothing - Kevin Ratcliffe anyone?
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Post by harboroughshrew on Dec 22, 2019 23:03:56 GMT 1
Thought in the away game last season Southend were the worst team I have ever seen in League 1 - they never looked like making a decent chance against us. They did look good going forward at the Meadow this season but their defence is practically non-existent and I cannot see Campbell being able to turn them around given their money troubles.
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