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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 13:02:12 GMT 1
Let's be honest.
Chukka and politicians of his ilk are the very worst in our system and precisely the type that have driven people both left and right. What's even better is that these sycophants are embedded so deeply up their own anuses they don't realise its them that have pushed Labour left and conservatives right.
The sooner he loses his seat the better.
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Post by Dancin on Jun 14, 2019 13:17:27 GMT 1
If Boris does win you can be sure of three things;
i) Brexit will happen
ii) The Terrorist Sympathizer from Telford won't enter No. 10
iii) Somewhere along the line there will be a huge gaff!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 15:00:05 GMT 1
Par for the course in Westminster also but with the added bonus of walking into highly lucrative jobs on leaving as an MP or even when they are MPs !!!. Boris £250k a year from the Telegraph for spouting s**te is the prime example Sorry, my Miss Take, it's 440 grand. And what has money from a newspaper got to do with the public purse? £440k is a relatively small amount as a golden handshake for a job of that stature and is a conditional amount dependant on his future earnings. Money from a newspaper job (or any other second job for any MP) has a lot to do with the public purse because they are not actually doing what they should be devoting that time to, which is to do a proper MP's job. It's not as most of them need the extra money and in particular the Brexit posh boys (oh sorry men of the people)
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 14, 2019 15:01:24 GMT 1
How anyone would want to be PM at this point in time I have no idea, not with what's ahead... I think I'd be happy to miss out this time around and look to what comes about next time it's up for grabs. Its a poisoned chalice is Brexit, could make a right mess of someones career... Anyhow, I think we've heard all this before about Johnson when he was running to be Mayor of London. For all the accusations leveled at him he is deemed, gaffs and all, to have done a good job by a majority of Londoners. Enough to get a second term of course. So who knows. If he does get it (and I don't think he is a shoe in just yet) we'll have to wait and see... I like what I hear from that Rory Stewart, mind. Think he might have a part to play looking to the future...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 15:13:17 GMT 1
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Post by barrynic on Jun 14, 2019 15:32:24 GMT 1
He will never be regarded as a worse London Mayor that the incompetent holding office at present
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 17:34:15 GMT 1
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jun 14, 2019 18:10:40 GMT 1
Hold on, you forgot about the Olympic stadium which cost millions, had no legacy and a premier League football team has been pretty much gifted for bugger all
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Post by barrynic on Jun 14, 2019 18:49:41 GMT 1
Can't believe Boris Johnson called David Ruffin a Pickaninny. Would certainly tarnish my slavishly unwavering support for him. I am sure that David suffered insults far worse in racist America in the 60's and 70's
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 19:18:16 GMT 1
Can't believe Boris Johnson called David Ruffin a Pickaninny. Would certainly tarnish my slavishly unwavering support for him. I am sure that David suffered insults far worse in racist America in the 60's and 70's I think most people might actually move with the times.!!!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jun 15, 2019 0:57:34 GMT 1
The similarities between Johnson and Umunna are striking. Limited abilities with a high self-regard.
Johnson is tacking to the right to recapture the Brexit Party vote. But why vote for the Conservative Party when you can vote for the real thing?
Johnson probably thinks that the initial leaving of the EU on 31 October will put an end to the Brexit Party the way that the referendum result put paid to UKIP, and he can then safely go into a general election.
The only possibilities of his being successful is either 1) A No Deal Brexit, or 2) a precipitous collapse of the EU on a number of key issues to change the parliamentary arithmetic without a general election.
I'm not clear that closing parliament (proroguing it) is something that is possible without getting the Queen directly involved in politics.
In the event of No Deal the impact on Scottish sentiment for a further independence referendum would be interesting.
Johnson needs to be correct as the latest opinion poll for Westminster voting intentions from YouGov shows 26% support for the Brexit Party. That is breaching the break-out threshold under first past the post, and suggests in excess of 300 Brexit Party MPs, with the Conservative Party reduced to a rump.
And decimation of the Conservative Party at any future election is something that the vast majority of Conservative Party MPs would accept, including remainers like Stewart, if it kept the Labour Party out of power (always a slim possibility given the politics of Scotland).
Would the same Conservative MPs risk the break-up of the UK to keep Labour out of government? Yes, I think they would.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 9:29:42 GMT 1
Can't believe Boris Johnson called David Ruffin a Pickaninny. Would certainly tarnish my slavishly unwavering support for him. I am sure that David suffered insults far worse in racist America in the 60's and 70's Well that's alright then isn't it. FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 12:30:24 GMT 1
I hope Rory Stewart gets it, the best of a bad bunch and I have always found him to talk sense in interviews. I have never voted Tory, I don’t expect I ever will, but someone like Stewart would be the most sensible option at this moment in time. Sensible doesn’t seem to be an option in politics anymore though. I'm not that struck on Boris but Rory Stewart is a grade one clown. He thinks Kenneth Clarke is a brexiteer I kid you not. Kenneth Clarke father of the house and an integral part of getting us into the EU in the seventies under Ted Heath in the first place. I had to rewind the footage to believe what I was hearing and this bloke thinks he's capable of being PM.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 18:12:49 GMT 1
Boris, or any of the candidates left really, are all not up to much and falling over each other to Brexit by 31st October. It reminds me of the dark tunnel we entered into when Thatcher took over. We survived that, but lost most of our industry, squandered most of our oil revenues and cut most of our scientific research funding.
How we will get on this time without an oil windfall is anybody's guess, at least we will be having an election pretty soon, hopefully before everything is broken.
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Post by barrynic on Jun 15, 2019 18:30:03 GMT 1
......and of course Brown left the Country in great shape.....and I wont mention the Shyster Blair.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 18:42:03 GMT 1
......and of course Brown left the Country in great shape.....and I wont mention the Shyster Blair. .......and I won’t mention the absolute legend of a pig f.cker “Call me Dave “ Cameron and his great mate Gideon Osborne , the champion of austerity himself . I thought May was the worst PM but I had forgotten Cameron . Of course our worst PM ever has been the old s**tebag herself , the Devil Incarnate , Thatcher.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 18:52:55 GMT 1
This thread is about Boris for PM . It is interesting to hear that a certain woman is incarcerated in an Iranian hell hole and is going on hunger strike . Boris , God bless him , did his best for her . Did he f.ck. Thanks to him he made her early release disappear thanks to his ill judged and completely wrong comments.
To think that this buffoon could and possibly will be our next PM leaves me cold . Please God don’t let it happen!
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 19:13:27 GMT 1
This thread is about Boris for PM . It is interesting to hear that a certain woman is incarcerated in an Iranian hell hole and is going on hunger strike . Boris , God bless him , did his best for her . Did he f.ck. Thanks to him he made her early release disappear thanks to his ill judged and completely wrong comments. To think that this buffoon could and possibly will be our next PM leaves me cold . Please God don’t let it happen! It's ok, they thought of a way out of that one, make a British citizen stateless and leave her to rot. Even our top lawyers think that was foul play
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 19:18:46 GMT 1
......and of course Brown left the Country in great shape.....and I wont mention the Shyster Blair. .......and I won’t mention the absolute legend of a pig f.cker “Call me Dave “ Cameron and his great mate Gideon Osborne , the champion of austerity himself . I thought May was the worst PM but I had forgotten Cameron . Of course our worst PM ever has been the old s**tebag herself , the Devil Incarnate , Thatcher. Is that the Brown that saved the banks and who are now repaying bililons to this government? I look back and I know when I felt safer, more job secure, personally better off and proud of our role in the world and all those times were with a Labour government.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 15, 2019 20:20:19 GMT 1
It would seem only fair to point out that a number of these places do have Tory representation in parliament. I don't remember defending the Tories. You confuse me JT.
Could you please clarify your political standings.
I for what it's worth am Labour/Green supporting, anti-brexit, anti-war and anti-fascist. Oh and a confirmed atheist to boot.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 15, 2019 20:26:11 GMT 1
If Boris does win you can be sure of three things; i) Brexit will happen ii) The Terrorist Sympathizer from Telford won't enter No. 10 iii) Somewhere along the line there will be a huge gaff! ii) Lucy Allen is a terrorist sympathiser. Wow.
Oh well, like they say 'every day's a school day' so while we're at it
We're mostly British on here, so try to communicate in British English. There's a good lad.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 20:28:35 GMT 1
I don't remember defending the Tories. You confuse me JT.
Could you please clarify your political standings.
I for what it's worth am Labour/Green supporting, anti-brexit, anti-war and anti-fascist. Oh and a confirmed atheist to boot.
And booting Sir is what you deserve! Yours, man of the people, N Farage
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 15, 2019 20:30:39 GMT 1
You confuse me JT.
Could you please clarify your political standings.
I for what it's worth am Labour/Green supporting, anti-brexit, anti-war and anti-fascist. Oh and a confirmed atheist to boot.
And booting Sir is what you deserve! Yours, man of the people, N Farage Oh the wit.
Laugh? I almost did.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 15, 2019 20:33:53 GMT 1
Can't believe Boris Johnson called David Ruffin a Pickaninny. Would certainly tarnish my slavishly unwavering support for him. I am sure that David suffered insults far worse in racist America in the 60's and 70's .......and it appears that you would have been fine with Boris joining in with it.
Weird.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 20:40:23 GMT 1
Can anyone explain why the BBC/Channel 4 are screening debates between the candidates when the general public won't actually have any say in this election, just a small number of Tory members? Are they expecting an audience of around 100,000 to be glued to their sets?
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Post by northwestman on Jun 15, 2019 20:41:45 GMT 1
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Post by Drew on Jun 15, 2019 20:51:22 GMT 1
I don't actually think Boris is responsible for this woman still being in prison. She is being used as a bargaining chip over millions of pounds owed by a UK company to Iran over an abortive arms deal a couple of decades ago. Parties agree the money is owed but the UK are refusing to pay it because Iran is currently subject to sanctions. Until that is resolved I suspect her release won't be either.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 15, 2019 21:18:40 GMT 1
I don't actually think Boris is responsible for this woman still being in prison. She is being used as a bargaining chip over millions of pounds owed by a UK company to Iran over an abortive arms deal a couple of decades ago. Parties agree the money is owed but the UK are refusing to pay it because Iran is currently subject to sanctions. Until that is resolved I suspect her release won't be either. He didn't exactly help when he stated that she was over there training journalists. FFS he himself is a sometime journalist (well columnist, but all part of the same profession [sic]), so a little bit of support could have been forthcoming, but I suppose she doesn't work for the Telegraph, so isn't important enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 21:20:41 GMT 1
Can anyone explain why the BBC/Channel 4 are screening debates between the candidates when the general public won't actually have any say in this election, just a small number of Tory members? Are they expecting an audience of around 100,000 to be glued to their sets? We won’t get a vote but I’d be interested to know how the next potential PM of our country stacks up....
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 15, 2019 21:23:52 GMT 1
Can anyone explain why the BBC/Channel 4 are screening debates between the candidates when the general public won't actually have any say in this election, just a small number of Tory members? Are they expecting an audience of around 100,000 to be glued to their sets? We won’t get a vote but I’d be interested to know how the next potential PM of our country stacks up.... Yes, that's true, but frustrating that we cannot prevent the train crash.
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