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Post by northwestman on May 8, 2019 16:23:54 GMT 1
Sadler is more worth another deal than either of those two..and I agree that it was right that he was released.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 16:24:28 GMT 1
Playing devils advocate here, maybe Arnold has been told there will be a (relatively) top quality keeper coming in (loan or permanent) and he has said he wants first team footbal, and so they offer RCC a contract as an out-and-out number 2? That is a possibility, though it still doesn't explain why LJL has been offered another contract. I can only think that we have offered LJL another contract because we want to continue to support him through his rehabilitation?
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Post by tvor on May 8, 2019 16:27:07 GMT 1
Hopefully there will be an interview with Ricketts published soon on his rationale behind this.
We clearly have a duty of care to John-Lewis but couldn't we have given him a month by month contract until such time that his rehab is complete rather than a full one year?
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Post by northwestman on May 8, 2019 16:27:36 GMT 1
That is a possibility, though it still doesn't explain why LJL has been offered another contract. I can only think that we have offered LJL another contract because we want to continue to support him through his rehabilitation? If that's the case, then why doesn't the Club say so rather than putting this Board into meltdown?
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Post by tvor on May 8, 2019 16:28:06 GMT 1
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Post by tvor on May 8, 2019 16:31:55 GMT 1
So on what evidence do we move on the under contract Steve Arnold and replace him with the not under contract Charles Cook? Playing devils advocate here, maybe Arnold has been told there will be a (relatively) top quality keeper coming in (loan or permanent) and he has said he wants first team footbal, and so they offer RCC a contract as an out-and-out number 2? An interesting theory. Whatever way it goes I find it very difficult to believe we will start next season with Arnold and Charles-Cook as our two senior goalkeepers.
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Post by northwestman on May 8, 2019 16:32:01 GMT 1
yes, but that article was written in January 2019. A statement from SR as to what the current situation is with LJL would be much appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 16:32:29 GMT 1
I can only think that we have offered LJL another contract because we want to continue to support him through his rehabilitation? If that's the case, then why doesn't the Club say so rather than putting this Board into meltdown? Someone get some coolant quick. NWM has gone critical.
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Post by tvor on May 8, 2019 16:33:08 GMT 1
The article, from January, says he is likely to be out for 12 months so that takes it up to January 2020 before our duty of care could potentially be at an end.
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Post by shrewblue on May 8, 2019 16:33:44 GMT 1
WOW! After a lack lustre season I was thinking clean slate for Ricketts and recruitment and an opportunity to improve the squad big time.
I only hope there is some tactical planning going on here, as on face value and at first glance this is very very disappointing and indeed worrying!!!
In my humble opinion the most astonishing part is contract offers to LJL and Reece Cook who are not up to it if we are considering chasing the play offs which should be the minimum target for us. PLUS We desperately need a number one keeper to challenge Steve Arnold
Aaron Amadi-Holloway I can perhaps understand as a squad player but not first choice striker. Lee Angol, Alex Gilliead, Ryan Haynes, Sam Jones, need moving on to create money and space for better players and perhaps that is what will happen!
If I was one of the retained squad members or indeed a player who is available looking in on the club I would be concerned about the ambition of our club and whether I would want to be part of a side fighting relegation yet again!
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2019 16:34:54 GMT 1
This keeper youve all written off
How many have seen him play a full game ? He many have been offered peanuts or even pay to play
Jeez , let’s see what we kick the season off with
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 8, 2019 16:35:25 GMT 1
Reece-Cook and John-Lewis are on a pittance (relatively) compared to others. As evidenced this season just gone, Ricketts likes three senior keepers on his books, doesn’t mean that RCC will be anything more than a rotating sub keeper. The shop I find more baffling, in both instances I think a youngster could do the job.
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Post by tvor on May 8, 2019 16:40:59 GMT 1
If reality people are quibbling over a relatively small number of decisions as most of the players are under contract already.
The time to judge a summer's transfer business is in August not in May.
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Post by tdk on May 8, 2019 16:41:01 GMT 1
I'm not sure why people getting so concerned. The only surprises are Shop and RCC, and has been said, they are probably on peanuts.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on May 8, 2019 16:41:14 GMT 1
Really pleased with this list, good to see the club making their first moves of the summer.
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Post by northwestman on May 8, 2019 16:42:03 GMT 1
If we are just paying LJL while he completes his rehabilitation whilst not having any intention whatsoever of playing him when he is fit and are signing Charles Cook on a very cheap contract as our number 2 keeper then that's just about acceptable.
But that will have to mean that Arnold is moved on, as no way can Arnold and Charles Cook start the season as our 2 keepers. That said, I'd rather Arnold was our number 2 keeper than Charles Cook, but as another poster has suggested, perhaps he's insisted he wants 1st team football.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 8, 2019 16:44:50 GMT 1
Anyone here happy that we are offering new contracts to Charles Cook and LJL? It certainly adds plenty of fuel to the Ricketts critics. no
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Post by Exkeeper on May 8, 2019 16:45:06 GMT 1
I really should know better than to view this board when the Retained list is publicised and when any new signings are announced. Far too many professional analysts which must make it difficult for the management team to please any of them at any time.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 16:45:38 GMT 1
Cameron Gregory may be wondering if he has any sort of future at the club, especially if Reece-Cook re signs.
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Post by Exkeeper on May 8, 2019 16:47:19 GMT 1
If we are just paying LJL while he completes his rehabilitation whilst not having any intention whatsoever of playing him when he is fit and are signing Charles Cook on a very cheap contract as our number 2 keeper then that's just about acceptable. But that will have to mean that Arnold is moved on, as no way can Arnold and Charles Cook start the season as our 2 keepers. That said, I'd rather Arnold was our number 2 keeper than Charles Cook, but as another poster has suggested, perhaps he's insisted he wants 1st team football. I reckon Arnold is better than either Coleman or Mitchell.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 8, 2019 16:49:03 GMT 1
21 players retained and four offered new deals. On the face of it, it doesn't look like there is much room for manoeuvre. Bearing in mind how injury-prone Edwards is - and that Sears is out for nine months - we can only hope that offers come in for the likes of Angol, Jones and Gilliead for us to sign better. if we are going down the route of a slimmed down squad by keeping two dead woods like cook and lewis make 's no sense .it also brings up doubts about either Rickeetts does not know what he is doing or we have a very limited budget or they are been payed a pittance and will not feature next season and are just there if we get key players injured.either way let us hope that most of the deadwood is cleared out and we get the key players we needed in so that we can have a fully fit team and not leave everything to the last minute
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 8, 2019 16:49:37 GMT 1
This keeper youve all written off How many have seen him play a full game ? He many have been offered peanuts or even pay to play Jeez , let’s see what we kick the season off with I have, hes s**t. Is that ok?
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Post by wakemanender on May 8, 2019 16:51:58 GMT 1
It would be good to hear the thoughts of SR on the retained list. He needs the fans on side before we go into the new season because a poor start will signal the end for him. Confidence in him is getting less by the day. I hope he can have a good close and pre season but today hasn't done much to think that will happen.
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Post by leonidrogozov on May 8, 2019 16:53:19 GMT 1
Cameron Gregory may be wondering if he has any sort of future at the club, especially if Reece-Cook re signs. I would think he has more of a future here if he is not in first team squad plans as number 3, ie he is freed up to go out for a season to develop. Doesn't mean he WILL develop but I'd be more worried if I was him if he was just kicking his heels as a number 3 choice on a matchday.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 8, 2019 16:54:30 GMT 1
This keeper youve all written off How many have seen him play a full game ? He many have been offered peanuts or even pay to play Jeez , let’s see what we kick the season off with I have, hes s**t. Is that ok? so have i and he is terrible
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 8, 2019 16:55:43 GMT 1
If we are just paying LJL while he completes his rehabilitation whilst not having any intention whatsoever of playing him when he is fit and are signing Charles Cook on a very cheap contract as our number 2 keeper then that's just about acceptable. But that will have to mean that Arnold is moved on, as no way can Arnold and Charles Cook start the season as our 2 keepers. That said, I'd rather Arnold was our number 2 keeper than Charles Cook, but as another poster has suggested, perhaps he's insisted he wants 1st team football. I reckon Arnold is better than either Coleman or Mitchell. which is not saying a lot. i hope and i still hope we sign a decent keeper and Arnold is our number two keeper next year.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 17:02:23 GMT 1
If RCC is deemed to be worthy of a one year offer then why on Earth hasn’t he featured since Arnold’s injury and in particular vs Walsall when the game was a dead rubber?
As for LJL - well he must be the only shop Mike Ashley and SportsDirect haven’t shown an interest in taking on
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2019 17:08:19 GMT 1
reminds me of this
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2019 17:13:52 GMT 1
This keeper youve all written off How many have seen him play a full game ? He many have been offered peanuts or even pay to play Jeez , let’s see what we kick the season off with I have, hes s**t. Is that ok? how many times and when ? just out of interest I saw him keep a clean sheet against the town once or twice lol
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Post by blamber on May 8, 2019 17:22:17 GMT 1
It's not really a question of whether anyone has seen RCC play or not. People have different opinions anyway. It simply defies logic. If Ricketts saw RCC as a potential number 1 or 2 keeper next season then why didn't he play him this season? He's had plenty of opportunity to do so. Yet he preferred instead to play a loanee. So, it's baffling as to why he now thinks that RCC is worth a deal.
As for LJL, most of us have seen him play and I'm yet to find anyone on this board that sings his praises as a league one player. But then we could all be wrong.
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