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Post by R6ix on Apr 6, 2019 20:38:19 GMT 1
if we do survive, which i think we will,then next season under ricketts i think we will be in the bottom 4 all season,from his first game in charge until today i have seen no improvement at all,how many times does he play golbourne at wing back before he realises scott cant beat a man, has no pace and cannot put a decent cross in, but still persists with the notion that he can?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 20:40:36 GMT 1
No way was Mirchell at fault for their goal. Decent cross which Waterfall should have won, but their player looked as surprised as anyone that it ended up in the net. Was Waterfall being pinned down there? Certainly was very physical when I saw it in real time. Mind you scunny were extremely physical in both boxes spurred on by the weak referee.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 6, 2019 20:51:08 GMT 1
if we do survive, which i think we will,then next season under ricketts i think we will be in the bottom 4 all season,from his first game in charge until today i have seen no improvement at all,how many times does he play golbourne at wing back before he realises scott cant beat a man, has no pace and cannot put a decent cross in, but still persists with the notion that he can? Taken 15 points from our last 10 games. That’s 69 points over the season. Playoff form, not bottom 4. Surprised at the level of negativity on here. We had more possession and shots and controlled the game v a team intent on ruining the game. Yes we seriously lack quality in the final 3rd, and the final ball/decision, but it was overall a point gained today, with other results. 1 more win and we’re all but there
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 20:51:31 GMT 1
Genuinely surprised reading here this evening that so many people thought we were poor today. I’m not saying it was a great performance whatsoever but there was only one team trying to win today, one team creating chances.
We should have been winning by the time Sc***hrope scored from nowhere, couple of real decent chances not taken then and a great save from Alnwick at 0-1.
Second half was absolutely crying out for one of the centre half’s to come off and another forward to come on, Sc***hrope had no attacking threat so playing five across the back became a waste, glad Ricketts made the change but I think it could have come earlier.
Also surprised about the AAH complaints. Think he made a huge difference when he came on, it got to the point where we needed that option to go long, he won headers, put himself about and we looked more dangerous after he came on in my opinion, certainly helps when he’s got players around him like Fey, SW and Campbell to pick up the knock downs.
As for Sc***hrope, well, I’d argue the most embarrassing team to come to The Meadow this season for sure, and possibly since we moved grounds, truly horrendous. How none of their players got booked for time wasting (unless I missed it) is unbelievable. I understand needing points, doing what you have to, but time wasting with EVERY throw in and every set piece before half an hours even been played? When they made a substitution I was half expecting the lad coming on to immediately drop to the floor ‘injured’ like the rest of them all had been. Painful to watch, even after we equalised they continued to waste time and had zero intention of trying to get a winner, had we got that goal 10 minutes earlier I would have backed us to continue pushing for another.
Overall it’s a point after a good win last weekend, results around us went really well, four points clear and Walsall lost against 10 men, so although it was a frustrating watch today (more because of Sc***horpe’s approach to the game then our own) it’s still a decent enough day.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 6, 2019 20:53:33 GMT 1
Their lad rolling around ‘injured’ in front of the west stand, strolled 5 yards back on the pitch just to drop down again, in order to halt the match.
Scandalous. They’ve won no admirers today
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 6, 2019 20:57:08 GMT 1
How much better are we for a fully fit Shaun Whalley? Not always at his best but always makes things happen. Won’t go down as an STFC legend but certainly a great modern day servant of the club.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 21:01:45 GMT 1
Their lad rolling around ‘injured’ in front of the west stand, strolled 5 yards back on the pitch just to drop down again, in order to halt the match. Scandalous. They’ve won no admirers today That ref really needs to grow a pair. In terms of decisions i think he got 95% right today, and it’s rare we can say that about a L1 official so that deserves respect, but it was clear to everybody watching that game they were wasting time and taking the p**s to be honest, and he didn’t seem arsed. He didn’t do anything to assert himself. The longer it went on it was like Sc***hrope were seeing how far they could push it. Several players could have been booked for time wasting, and the lad who left the pitch then came back on before falling over again 100% should have been booked for unsupporting behaviour. One thing I will say is he added plenty of time on for both halves, but he had no authority or handle on the game as Sc***hrope continued to take this p**s more and more.
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Post by tdk on Apr 6, 2019 21:01:49 GMT 1
We were the better team, though still poor. Midfield is our greatest strength but they barely strung 2 passes together.
I think we have a decent bunch of players but the formation and tactics is not getting the best out of them.
Nice to see AH getting some credit. He always challenged for the ball in the air, and often won it.
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Post by blueboy62 on Apr 6, 2019 21:02:28 GMT 1
I reckon Arnold would get absolutely hammered on here for not dominating his six yard box, but Mitchell seems to be getting an easy ride. The cross for their goal should have been claimed and thereafter Scunny hung every corner/free kick into the 6 yard box causing mayhem. It seems to be a very common fault with keepers at this level I did think Mitchell kicked pretty well made a good save before we scored ,but have to agree he was slow to come off his line at times Will need to see the goal again to be sure he was at fault for that My thoughts exactly and would like to see goal again to be sure. I was sat right behind the cross in B15 and we made no effort to stop the cross into the six yard box. Two defenders and the keeper were static in the middle. For me, thats a keepers ball all day long. If the camera proves me wrong I'll happily apologise. Thought we were better when Whalley moved to right wing and Holloway in middle. Thought the referee got his decisions right today apart from his weakness in dealing with Sc***horpes play acting and time wasting. OK, he added on the time but he still allowed them to break up play and the flow of the game. Seems to be a regular occurance now. A point is a point I suppose but two points lost in my view.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 6, 2019 21:06:00 GMT 1
The good news from today
1 Only 5 games from the end of the season, still 4 points clear of the drop. 2 The rest of the clubs are just as bad as we are, and can’t buy a win from anywhere 3 There are lots of 6 point games to come with clubs playing each other every week. 4 Bradford are surely down so only 3 places to avoid. 4 50 points will surely be enough now, so 3 more either from a win or 3 draws will be enough.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 21:06:34 GMT 1
How much better are we for a fully fit Shaun Whalley? Not always at his best but always makes things happen. Won’t go down as an STFC legend but certainly a great modern day servant of the club. Deserves a two year deal imo. A consistent performer when starts and always an asset to bring off bench. Committed to the last and has that bit of spark in him Unfortunately I fear he will be offered less and will be off somewhere closer to home with a certain former manager of ours.
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Post by tdk on Apr 6, 2019 21:09:43 GMT 1
Their lad rolling around ‘injured’ in front of the west stand, strolled 5 yards back on the pitch just to drop down again, in order to halt the match. Scandalous. They’ve won no admirers today That ref really needs to grow a pair. In terms of decisions i think he got 95% right today, and it’s rare we can say that about a L1 official so that deserves respect, but it was clear to everybody watching that game they were wasting time and taking the p**s to be honest, and he didn’t seem arsed. He didn’t do anything to assert himself. The longer it went on it was like Sc***hrope were seeing how far they could push it. Several players could have been booked for time wasting, and the lad who left the pitch then came back on before falling over again 100% should have been booked for unsupporting behaviour. One thing I will say is he added plenty of time on for both halves, but he had no authority or handle on the game as Sc***hrope continued to take this p**s more and more. Ref had appeared a little card happy prior to this. Perhaps his bosses had a word in his ear?
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Post by trojanskin on Apr 6, 2019 21:22:31 GMT 1
Thought their player had Waterfall in a headlock for their goal. Surprised it stood.
We were woeful again though. Fortunately there are more woeful teams than us this year.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2019 21:23:12 GMT 1
we got a point today , whilst town looked the team with more intent and did not give up. we played a team with one of the worst defensive records in the league, so either suddenly they became a better defence or we got our tactics wrong and lacked any cutting edge ,as we only managed to scr@pe a draw courtesy of an own goal and yet again we conceded a soft goal.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2019 21:24:36 GMT 1
Thought their player had Waterfall in a headlock for their goal. Surprised it stood. We were woeful again though. Fortunately there are more woeful teams than us this year. let us be grateful there are otherwise we would have been propping up the table for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 21:25:28 GMT 1
As above I didn’t think we were that bad today but Sc***horpe deserved nothing. Rode their luck for most of the game and their time wasting tactics brought nothing but shame on them. No5 epitomised them perfectly with his shameful disgraceful play acting. The ref tbf reflected their time wasting with 5 minutes added on both the first and second halves.
I’d be embarrassed if I was Sc***horpe fan today
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Post by blueboy62 on Apr 6, 2019 21:28:58 GMT 1
Just seen the goals again. Wouldn't criticise the keeper now but still a soft goal for the defence to give away. Their keeper came for a similar cross and it ricocheyed into the net. You pay your money and take your chance.
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Post by Dale on Apr 6, 2019 21:34:47 GMT 1
Felt we deserved something from the game for our endeavour alone although the quality when it came to the final third was just shocking and was probably why we had to rely on a OG to get us a point in the end, Salop sides have in the past constantly time wasted to get something away from home so I try not to judge too much when away sides do the same to us but Scunny took it to another level today.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Apr 6, 2019 21:55:14 GMT 1
I hope the people who abused AAH on social media have it within them to admit that he totally changed the game today and was the reason we got a point. Felt sorry for Fejiri - he is not the type who can play the lone striker upfront in a home game when we are pressing, a much more physical player such as Carleton Morris is needed for that. Lets hope this is the last time we see Whalley playing down the middle as he is much more effective on the wing. Finally, I cannot understand Rickett's comments about us playing better today than at Southend as Southend did not have an effort on goal worthy of the name against us last week and we were very comfortable after the first goal there.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Apr 6, 2019 22:22:33 GMT 1
I thought their striker who scored Wootton was effective both times weve played them this season.. gave Waterfall a tough afternoon and had the beating of Shaun Williams one a few occasions
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Post by R6ix on Apr 6, 2019 22:25:49 GMT 1
AAH did well today,fey is not a player who can track back and work forward again to engineer a goal, he requires a decent ball in to do his magic,alas at the moment we are not the side he requires to compliment him,he is a quality player requiring quality service
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Post by Pilch on Apr 6, 2019 22:45:24 GMT 1
Gutted that we didn’t win
Had all the possession , Docherty forced a good save early on but that was about it One thing for sure we certainly didn’t deserve to lose I think 1-0 to us would have been fair
Keeper was steady although I missed their goal as I was looking at my phone, need to see it, grant gone off the boil , aah looked good when he came on
Keep working hard like today and we’ll be ok
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Post by venceremos on Apr 6, 2019 23:11:18 GMT 1
AAH did well today,fey is not a player who can track back and work forward again to engineer a goal, he requires a decent ball in to do his magic,alas at the moment we are not the side he requires to compliment him,he is a quality player requiring quality service He was caught on his heels when Norburn played him in on goal in the first half and his appalling touch wasted a perfect chance when Campbell put him through with the keeper to beat in the second. And then there was that abysmal free kick attempt. He’s a good finisher but the lack of quality was too often his today. Campbell looked much livelier and more of a threat.
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Post by TheFoz on Apr 6, 2019 23:26:11 GMT 1
We were the better team.
It could have been a lot worse, a draw will do.
1 more win and I think we are there.
Just stay up, get this season out of the way. It was always going to be a struggle with the upheaval in the summer.
14th place is a good place to be with 5 games left.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 6:52:13 GMT 1
Agree with people who say we werent terrible today, we weren't great and the quality in the final third was poor but we looked to be the only team trying to win the game. Scunnys only threat was from the quality of the set plays put in
Fej had a poor game and clearly isn't a target man, second half we were increasingly desperate so lumping it forward but no one there to win it, AAH changed that and Campbell provided a spark too. Just wish the changes had been made earlier, we clearly didn't need 5 at the back and a defensive midfielder. And as others have pointed out, we have 2 wing backs who offer little attacking wise, I feel sorry for Goldburn in particular as he gets abuse for not being attack minded but isn't a wing back and rarely has any options down the wing ahead of him.
A point isn't the end of the world but does feel like a missed opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 8:02:09 GMT 1
Definitely not as bad as some people are making out. Played with some confidence with some nice passing and interplay, before that shower in red scored.
The main thing is though, we kept going and didn't give up. Show that attitude, we will get the 3/4 points we need.
Having said that, 32 seconds of highlights sums up that game.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 7, 2019 8:16:17 GMT 1
seen the goals you dont really get a clear view of what happened with waterfall during the cross , just very lucky to get an own goal.
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Post by Dale on Apr 7, 2019 8:26:22 GMT 1
Now he brings on Holloway, just what does he bring to the table? Must admit I groaned and many others did around me when he came on but he shook up the Scunny defence a bit when he came on, even though Fey has pace to burn he’s probably a bit light weight when it comes to doing the ‘nasty’ things, can’t fault his contribution at all but think I’d still rather see him on the bench, can see Sam starting him at Gillingham now.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 7, 2019 9:24:54 GMT 1
we all have bad days ,i am a fan of Ferjiri but he was poor, timing of his runs was out of sync with the passes, (docherty tried to link up some passes a few times) what was most disappointing was his best chances he looked to be through with a chance but his fist touch was poor and the defender go the ball. to be fair he is not a physical player and was up against a big defender( i dont think he is suited for the lone forward role), we all have off days and possibly the pressure got to him.
Campbell injected some pace and physicality when he came on. this was two precious pints we threw away.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 7, 2019 9:58:22 GMT 1
Although Sc***horpe were awful, I think that SR's original set up was wrong. As others have already pointed out, Golbourne and Bolton are no WBs, and we certainly didn't need 5 men at the back plus a holding midfielder.
Whalley is far more effective staying out on his wing, and against a side like Sc***horpe we needed a more physical presence up front.
Once the substitutions were made then things improved. But they were made far too late.
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