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Post by davycrockett on Apr 1, 2019 14:27:40 GMT 1
There’s been debates on here regarding if ‘g***’ is classed as racist or not. Also to a lesser extent ‘your Welsh and you know you are’ always followed by ‘Sheep Shaggers’....
To answer the first part I heard on Saturday that the club have banned and withdraw a fans season ticket for chanting ‘g***’ last Saturday although a great number of other fans in Safe Standing were doing the same. So it seems the club are going to treat this in the same way as the more straight forward racism heard only too often and making national headlines recently.
Whilst I can see the connection I think the club are digging themselves a hole if large sections of the crowd sing this when playing Walsall they now can’t let it go unpunished so the CCTV will be busy and perhaps should be used to identify others that joined in on Saturday if the clubs view is it’s racist.
’Your Welsh and you Know you are’ followed by ‘Sheep Shaggers’ involves race and derogatory chants so can’t see too much difference when both have been used as banter used for years. The question is it going to be more difficult to ‘kick it Out’ if any derogatory chants are included like ‘Greasy Itay’ or ‘French Frogs’
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 1, 2019 14:29:06 GMT 1
There’s been debates on here regarding if ‘g***’ is classed as racist or not. Also to a lesser extent ‘your Welsh and you know you are’ always followed by ‘Sheep Shaggers’.... To answer the first part I heard on Saturday that the club have banned and withdraw a fans season ticket for chanting ‘g***’ last Saturday although a great number of other fans in Safe Standing were doing the same. So it seems the club are going to treat this in the same way as the more straight forward racism heard only too often and making national headlines recently. Whilst I can see the connection I think the club are digging themselves a hole if large sections of the crowd sing this when playing Walsall they now can’t let it go unpunished so the CCTV will be busy and perhaps should be used to identify others that joined in on Saturday if the clubs view is it’s racist. ’Your Welsh and you Know you are’ followed by ‘Sheep Shaggers’ involves race and derogatory chants so can’t see too much difference when both have been used as banter used for years. The question is it going to be more difficult to ‘kick it Out’ if any derogatory chants are included like ‘Greasy Itay’ or ‘French Frogs’ Interesting to see what Swear Check thinks....
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Post by venceremos on Apr 1, 2019 15:20:08 GMT 1
Presumably that's the chanting against the Pompey defender that you're referring to. It singled out one individual in a derogatory and prejudiced way and that made it shameful and wrong in my book.
I don't care if anyone wants to attempt a feeble "it's not racism", "sheep shaggers", "you're Welsh" blah di blah defence. It was just wrong and embarrassingly knuckle-dragging. It's not fair to pick out individuals? Too bad, maybe others won't be so quick to join in next time.
Can't stop everything and everyone all at once but you can send out a message that such moronic behaviour won't be tolerated. Incremental steps.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 1, 2019 16:06:09 GMT 1
Perhaps I've got a thick skin. The Welsh and sheep-shagger chants don't bother me Juan bit. You have to be very easily offended to take a fence at that. Probably a football match isn't the right place for you.
I think it was Newport County who sang at us, "You're Welsh and you know you are".
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Apr 1, 2019 16:11:52 GMT 1
“the more straight forward racism”
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Post by venceremos on Apr 1, 2019 16:34:03 GMT 1
“the more straight forward racism” None of the fancy stuff …..
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Post by dachshund on Apr 1, 2019 16:43:17 GMT 1
What’s the atmosphere going to be like if we can’t chant ‘greasy italy’ any more?! PC gone mad
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 1, 2019 16:48:45 GMT 1
Any old iron cannot be identified as racist, neither can reference to caravan dwellers in biscuit tins.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 17:35:57 GMT 1
Perhaps I've got a thick skin. The Welsh and sheep-shagger chants don't bother me Juan bit. You have to be very easily offended to take a fence at that. Probably a football match isn't the right place for you.
I think it was Newport County who sang at us, "You're Welsh and you know you are". What if I called you a European?
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 1, 2019 17:39:00 GMT 1
Perhaps I've got a thick skin. The Welsh and sheep-shagger chants don't bother me Juan bit. You have to be very easily offended to take a fence at that. Probably a football match isn't the right place for you.
I think it was Newport County who sang at us, "You're Welsh and you know you are". What if I called you a European?
You take that back at once, Big Nose.
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Post by nath on Apr 1, 2019 17:47:28 GMT 1
Perhaps I've got a thick skin. The Welsh and sheep-shagger chants don't bother me Juan bit. You have to be very easily offended to take a fence at that. Probably a football match isn't the right place for you.
I think it was Newport County who sang at us, "You're Welsh and you know you are". That kind of viewpoint epitomises what is wrong with the culture of football.. Why tolerate abuse and discrimination? I don't understand how adults find it so difficult to not act like idiots at football games when it comes to chanting.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 1, 2019 18:49:58 GMT 1
**** me gently......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 19:19:29 GMT 1
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Post by 18stfc86 on Apr 1, 2019 19:23:42 GMT 1
What a load of b******s. PC has gone waaaaay too far these days. What race is a g***? It's not even offensive.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 1, 2019 21:55:38 GMT 1
Who's been banned?
So for future reference, calling someone a g*** is a no go but everything else as long as its can not be linked to racism is OK. Gotcha!
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