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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 27, 2019 11:19:28 GMT 1
An extraordinary cup tie with an incredibly harsh ending. Salop were terrific in that, to a man pressed and played positively with the ball, were at times brave with what they were trying to do and dealt so well with their pace, which I thought would see us off comfortably. Fair play to Wolves for respecting the cup and their opponents too - that’s a side who will believe they can win the competition and we do nearly knocked them out. I’d normally find criticism for giving a 2 goal lead away to anyone, and for sitting back as we appeared to do in the closing stages, but I’m not going to bother when Mexico’s leading striker put them back in the game & an Irish international equalised. As for Haynes, I think he’s been brilliant for weeks - he won’t be the first, nor the last, to be pulled apart by Helder Costa & Adama Traore, there are better days to assess a League One wing backs defensive ability. Now, onto Bradford, another test of this team’s mentality because the cup games are a stark contrast from the s**te the same lads are producing in the league at present. Agree with your post bit I don't think they were sitting back, more like absolutely knackered they attacked all game.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2019 11:21:21 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. I've mentioned it. Mind you, Sadler can't play in the replay. That was his 2nd yellow yesterday.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 27, 2019 11:44:33 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. that was a different tackle where he got the ball and it went out for a corner . What do I know , I sit in block 19 and don’t watch any of the game .
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Post by Pilch on Jan 27, 2019 11:50:26 GMT 1
last time wolves came here I seemed to remember they won 1-0 with a late pen that shouldn't have been given
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Post by Pilch on Jan 27, 2019 11:57:42 GMT 1
Darby game attracts fans that behave in an aggressive confrontational manner. Who would have know. Take a look at the videos going around of before the Everton - Millwall game and then you might have a different outlook. ****ing yam yam c***s acting like they won the league after drawing to little old shrewsbury. I hope their train brakes down. w****rs. Unacceptable language on this board. Moderators please remove. in fairness , I've always said to people on here type what you actually want to say and the censor will do the rest in this case I removed the C word so Sc***horpe can exist in links etc I'll give pughy the chance to edit his post when he's sobered up ;-)
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Post by Jason SFM on Jan 27, 2019 12:05:18 GMT 1
What a game! The best I've seen Town play this season. Why oh why can't they do this in the league? If they did we would surely be in a more secure position. BUT that said they all played amazingly well today, as a team and of the two teams, Town were hungry for the win. I went into the game hoping for a draw.... but as soon as Docherty scored one of his belters I thought we can do this and well done to Waterfall for one of his on target headers...hoping and belief now thatwe could win this. Unfortunately Wolves had to bring in the cavalry with fresh, fast legs, our boys were starting to tire and cramp affecting them, but they battled on. Then there was the unwanted distraction and Wolves started to play hard and we got the draw instead of a win... ( but eh we didn't lose) so a trip to Molineux it is . I hope Rickets rests this best side on Tuesday, it's not ideal but better that than have them getting injured and their play pattern has been play well and hard, then hardly turn up. Let others go in Tuesday and prove what they can do for us. Difficult to pick a MOM, but I'm choosing Docherty, he was non stop today. We may have drawn but we were the better side for most of the game. COYB Rests his best side on tues? Bradford is a massive game for this club ( probably a 6 pointer). Rickets might have to slightly rotate 1 or 2 players due to the short recovery time. We've got to build on Saturday & aim to maintain that level of performance over the next 6 games.
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Post by Dale on Jan 27, 2019 12:11:57 GMT 1
Surprisingly deflated. Would have merrily have drunk my weight in Shropshire Lad for a draw before the game...but too be so close. Collapsed in my seat when they scored. Need to make a few changes before Tues as they were clearly struggling at the end...not given up on more reinforments joining. Wouldn’t surprise me if Grant was rested for Tuesday with SDR giving Vincelot a start on his stomping ground, and looks like Sadler will get his rest in the replay if the two yellow card rule = 1 match ban still applies. Whatever happens, we still need to strengthen significantly up front before the window closes, it’s not been a convincing transfer window at all so far really.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 27, 2019 12:30:25 GMT 1
An extraordinary cup tie with an incredibly harsh ending. Salop were terrific in that, to a man pressed and played positively with the ball, were at times brave with what they were trying to do and dealt so well with their pace, which I thought would see us off comfortably. Fair play to Wolves for respecting the cup and their opponents too - that’s a side who will believe they can win the competition and we do nearly knocked them out. I’d normally find criticism for giving a 2 goal lead away to anyone, and for sitting back as we appeared to do in the closing stages, but I’m not going to bother when Mexico’s leading striker put them back in the game & an Irish international equalised. As for Haynes, I think he’s been brilliant for weeks - he won’t be the first, nor the last, to be pulled apart by Helder Costa & Adama Traore, there are better days to assess a League One wing backs defensive ability. Now, onto Bradford, another test of this team’s mentality because the cup games are a stark contrast from the s**te the same lads are producing in the league at present. Agree with your post bit I don't think they were sitting back, more like absolutely knackered they attacked all game. Oh I agree. And with Wolves piling 4/5 forward and putting one of their best attackers at wing back it was one of those few occasions you just had to sit back elst they would have pulled us apart. Slight side note, not getting involved in the rights and wrongs of block 19, but do think their means of celebration counted against the team on this one. The away end should have been killed off by the 2nd Town goal & their team struggling for support from behind the goal, but it galvanised a previously subdued following & an in turn made it into a match they really, really wanted to get back into. Shame.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 27, 2019 12:42:12 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. Couldn’t agree more about Waterfall. I suspect he didn’t celebrate because he is sensible enough to know the job wasn’t finished and how right he was. He strikes me as the sort of bloke who relishes his chance in league one, knows he has to work and concentrate on getting things right and just doesn’t do all the histrionics, etc. It sounds as if he was leading well and that perhaps was his mindset. I suspect had we won he would have been celebrating with the rest after the final whistle.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 27, 2019 12:53:26 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. Couldn’t agree more about Waterfall. I suspect he didn’t celebrate because he is sensible enough to know the job wasn’t finished and how right he was. He strikes me as the sort of bloke who relishes his chance in league one, knows he has to work and concentrate on getting things right and just doesn’t do all the histrionics, etc. It sounds as if he was leading well and that perhaps was his mindset. I suspect had we won he would have been celebrating with the rest after the final whistle. hes a good defender but has a mistake in him most weeks . Shows how much of a fine margin game football is . 9 out of 10 refs would have probably given a penalty for the first tackle yesterday , and we could have gone on to get spanked 3 or 4 and everyone’s saying he is a liability . As it was he’s getting rave reviews. Fine margins .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 27, 2019 13:39:31 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. he was immense and it is all about perception when i was at the game i did not think it was a penalty but i did when i saw the highlights ,Waterfall deserve's real praise for the second goal he showed real determination to get there and he wanted it more than the wolves defender i like Sadler but agree but he should not be immune from criticism and he did make a mistake and whilst he is a good player he has made more errors this season.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2019 13:46:50 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. he was immense and it is all about perception when i was at the game i did not think it was a penalty but i did when i saw the highlights ,Waterfall deserve's real praise for the second goal he showed real determination to get there and he wanted it more than the wolves defender i like Sadler but agree but he should not be immune from criticism and he did make a mistake and whilst he is a good player he has made more errors this season. I agree with your comments about Sadler. He's been excellent with us since switching to CB, but there are one or two mistakes that have been creeping into his game this season.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 27, 2019 15:01:23 GMT 1
Sadler and Waterfall do have the occasional mistake in them mainly because they get through so much work so not surprising. Angol doesn't make any mistakes. Wonder why that is.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 27, 2019 15:38:22 GMT 1
Sadler and Waterfall do have the occasional mistake in them mainly because they get through so much work so not surprising. Angol doesn't make any mistakes. Wonder why that is. it is difficult when you cant be bothered
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 27, 2019 15:42:40 GMT 1
Looking on the Wolves fans forum most are ranting about the performance of their striker, Costa. Don't know how many millions he would be worth but does go to show that even spending millions doesn't guarantee you goals. He really was very poor against a League One defence.
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 27, 2019 17:13:09 GMT 1
Agree with your post bit I don't think they were sitting back, more like absolutely knackered they attacked all game. Oh I agree. And with Wolves piling 4/5 forward and putting one of their best attackers at wing back it was one of those few occasions you just had to sit back elst they would have pulled us apart. Slight side note, not getting involved in the rights and wrongs of block 19, but do think their means of celebration counted against the team on this one. The away end should have been killed off by the 2nd Town goal & their team struggling for support from behind the goal, but it galvanised a previously subdued following & an in turn made it into a match they really, really wanted to get back into. Shame. Absolutely agree with that. Block 19 lost us the game.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 27, 2019 17:18:57 GMT 1
Oh I agree. And with Wolves piling 4/5 forward and putting one of their best attackers at wing back it was one of those few occasions you just had to sit back elst they would have pulled us apart. Slight side note, not getting involved in the rights and wrongs of block 19, but do think their means of celebration counted against the team on this one. The away end should have been killed off by the 2nd Town goal & their team struggling for support from behind the goal, but it galvanised a previously subdued following & an in turn made it into a match they really, really wanted to get back into. Shame. Absolutely agree with that. Block 19 lost us the game. It can't have helped our players concentration either with all that going on around them. Totally inexcusable from some intellectually challenged so called supporters who were in reality counter productive to the efforts of the team.
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 27, 2019 17:21:48 GMT 1
Match of the day showed the tackle and praised Waterfall for it saying 'your not scoring in my house today' or something to that effect. They never even mentioned it might have been a penalty. They also praised his leadership throughout the game. After he scored Docherty was trying to get him to celebrate , but he was reluctant to do so. I wonder if this is due to fans constant criticism of him? He's saved us a fair few times this season with his headers both in defence and goals, so time to support him out on the pitch instead of singing the we love Sads song every time Waterfall wins the ball. No mention about Sads not clearing the ball which led to the Wolves scoring, but if that had been Waterfall omg calls to sack him would have been called. Give the guy a break. that was a different tackle where he got the ball and it went out for a corner . What do I know , I sit in block 19 and don’t watch any of the game . Ah right thanks for that as the match of the day guys we're discussing Waterfall and being very complimentary I would have thought they would have mentioned it, but thanks for pointing that out. League 1 players do make mistakes and Waterfall is one of them, but I don't believe he deserves the relentless criticism he gets..
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 27, 2019 17:25:34 GMT 1
What a game! The best I've seen Town play this season. Why oh why can't they do this in the league? If they did we would surely be in a more secure position. BUT that said they all played amazingly well today, as a team and of the two teams, Town were hungry for the win. I went into the game hoping for a draw.... but as soon as Docherty scored one of his belters I thought we can do this and well done to Waterfall for one of his on target headers...hoping and belief now thatwe could win this. Unfortunately Wolves had to bring in the cavalry with fresh, fast legs, our boys were starting to tire and cramp affecting them, but they battled on. Then there was the unwanted distraction and Wolves started to play hard and we got the draw instead of a win... ( but eh we didn't lose) so a trip to Molineux it is . I hope Rickets rests this best side on Tuesday, it's not ideal but better that than have them getting injured and their play pattern has been play well and hard, then hardly turn up. Let others go in Tuesday and prove what they can do for us. Difficult to pick a MOM, but I'm choosing Docherty, he was non stop today. We may have drawn but we were the better side for most of the game. COYB Rests his best side on tues? Bradford is a massive game for this club ( probably a 6 pointer). Rickets might have to slightly rotate 1 or 2 players due to the short recovery time. We've got to build on Saturday & aim to maintain that level of performance over the next 6 games. They will only be the best side if they've recovered sufficiently from yesterday's match, if they haven't there is a risk of injury and/ or a sluggish game as we have seen in many games up to now. It may be that as you say just a couple of changes are made.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 27, 2019 18:05:06 GMT 1
Couldn’t agree more about Waterfall. I suspect he didn’t celebrate because he is sensible enough to know the job wasn’t finished and how right he was. He strikes me as the sort of bloke who relishes his chance in league one, knows he has to work and concentrate on getting things right and just doesn’t do all the histrionics, etc. It sounds as if he was leading well and that perhaps was his mindset. I suspect had we won he would have been celebrating with the rest after the final whistle. hes a good defender but has a mistake in him most weeks . So do all our defenders. That's why they're playing in League 1. In fact I'd say there aren't many Premier League defenders that would pass your test.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 22:31:09 GMT 1
hes a good defender but has a mistake in him most weeks . So do all our defenders. That's why they're playing in League 1. In fact I'd say there aren't many Premier League defenders that would pass your test. John Stones is a prime example of someone who definitely wouldn't pass the test. I'm hoping Waterfall will end up more Nigel Pearson for us rather than a Matt Redmile.
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Post by tvor on Jan 28, 2019 13:05:14 GMT 1
According to the Star trainee Anthony Grant is also suspended for the replay. I can't see a yellow card listed for him in any of the earlier rounds but his suspension is listed on the FA website.
No Sadler and no Grant is very bad news.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 28, 2019 13:11:58 GMT 1
According to the Star trainee Anthony Grant is also suspended for the replay. I can't see a yellow card listed for him in any of the earlier rounds but his suspension is listed on the FA website. No Sadler and no Grant is very bad news. he has only picked up one booking in the fa cup I think .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:22:23 GMT 1
From the Shropshire Star....
"Anthony Grant and Greg Docherty, also booked yesterday, have not previously been cautioned in the competition this season."
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 28, 2019 13:42:35 GMT 1
The grant thing is madness, no site lists him as having had a previous booking, even the FA website.
Club need to sort the FA out if they have made a mistake or announce what caused this suspension?
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Post by keithb123 on Jan 28, 2019 14:24:57 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 28, 2019 14:31:54 GMT 1
Never mind I see in the Shropshire Star that where little old Shrewsbury lead these so called mighty Wolves are hoping to follow - safe standing!
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Post by Minormorris64 on Jan 28, 2019 15:54:21 GMT 1
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 28, 2019 16:19:21 GMT 1
Yep after 62 minutes and everyone but the ref missed it
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Post by venceremos on Jan 28, 2019 16:20:53 GMT 1
Think it was the BT Sport commentator yesterday mentioned that the FA are reviewing the system of suspensions and he commented on how it hurts the lower clubs disproportionately.
Good, it's a bloody shambles. Pity it'll be too late to salvage anything this season. Obviously dreamed up by some idiot trying to make sure no big names are suspended for the Wembley games, with not a thought given to the non-league and lower league participants - ie the clubs that do most to make the FA Cup a worthwhile competition.
Hardly surprising we lose players by the time we've played six cup ties, while Wolves and the like would struggle to have any suspended after two games.
Surely it was easy enough to avoid this unfairness? If the slate's wiped clean for the quarter finals (ie only 3 rounds in for the big boys), then it should have been wiped clean for the lower league clubs in the fourth round and for the non-league clubs reaching the first round.
The FA pays lip service to the magic of the Cup but they really don't seem to give a toss about the smaller clubs that create that magic.
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