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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jan 17, 2019 10:12:59 GMT 1
Think we need to stick with the 3-5-2 for a run of games and let the players get used to it .
I’d like to see the following at Blackpool. Waterfall is still a good leader and offfers a lot in the air. Put Bolton and Beckles with more pace either side will only help him. Emmanuel also offers a lot more going forward than Bolton
Arnold
Emmanuel Bolton Waterfall Beckles Haynes
Docherty Grant Laurent
Gilliead Okenbirhie
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 17, 2019 10:43:26 GMT 1
Got to give it another go at Blackpool now surely. Appreciate that one formation may work against one opposition and not another but the contrast from one half to the other on Tuesday would kinda suggest what the players feel happy and comfortable with. Imagine if we could get that working more times than not...
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masshrop
Midland League Division Two
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Post by masshrop on Jan 17, 2019 10:48:17 GMT 1
Same team as shrew1000 for me stick with it at least 5 games see how it goes , beat a good barnsley team with same formation ok it went wrong at oxford but that can happen.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 17, 2019 12:06:17 GMT 1
Just need to play the side that started the second half at Stoke it's not rocket science.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 17, 2019 12:10:23 GMT 1
can they be consistent and play for the whole 90 minutes
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 17, 2019 12:15:47 GMT 1
Agree with Martinshrew, got to stick with that eleven.
Arnold, Bolton, Beckles, Waterfall, Sadler, Haynes, Docherty, Grant, Laurent, Fey, Gilliaed.
Although I think Norburn will come straight back in to the side for Laurent. Fresh pair of legs and all.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 17, 2019 12:22:54 GMT 1
It all depends how Blackpool are set up.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 17, 2019 12:27:09 GMT 1
It all depends how Blackpool are set up. good point
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Post by tvor on Jan 17, 2019 12:58:34 GMT 1
I believe Ricketts preferred formation at Wrexham was a 4-3-3 system similar to that used by Askey.
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Post by tvor on Jan 17, 2019 13:06:38 GMT 1
Whalley and Edwards are both unavailable Saturday due to injury.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 17, 2019 13:33:59 GMT 1
Well if he doesn't and we loose he's gonna look a right chump. There are alot of reasons why we should play 3 at the back. The main one being it suits the players we've got! It's not rocket science really
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 17, 2019 14:24:40 GMT 1
Whalley and Edwards are both unavailable Saturday due to injury. I just wonder how many times that's to be said over the next few months...
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Post by wickedwilleh on Jan 17, 2019 14:29:15 GMT 1
Think we need to stick with the 3-5-2 for a run of games and let the players get used to it . I’d like to see the following at Blackpool. Waterfall is still a good leader and offfers a lot in the air. Put Bolton and Beckles with more pace either side will only help him. Emmanuel also offers a lot more going forward than Bolton Arnold Emmanuel Bolton Waterfall Beckles Haynes Docherty Grant Laurent Gilliead Okenbirhie Exactly the formation we should be playing, with the exception of Angol for Gillead maybe, been crying out for it all season. Thought we had found it against Barnsley but was dropped after the non performance at Oxford.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 17, 2019 14:45:40 GMT 1
It all depends how Blackpool are set up. Disagree slightly Dave. Think we should say "balls to Blackpool" and believe in the side that scored 3 past Stoke in a cracking 2nd half performance.
We need to pick a formation, probably 3-5-2 after that as it suits our players, and go for it.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 17, 2019 15:05:08 GMT 1
It all depends how Blackpool are set up. Disagree slightly Dave. Think we should say "balls to Blackpool" and believe in the side that scored 3 past Stoke in a cracking 2nd half performance.
We need to pick a formation, probably 3-5-2 after that as it suits our players, and go for it.
I do take that point, and essentially last season Hurst said 4-3-3 and did not deviate and we were very consistent as a result.
But 3-5-2 can get taken apart tactically as we have also seen this season.
I genuinely think the application and work rate of the players is more important.
I do agree that 3-5-2 probably plays to Haynes strengths, and helps overcome some of our weaknesses at centre half.
We look useless when we play long ball as well.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 17, 2019 15:45:37 GMT 1
Disagree slightly Dave. Think we should say "balls to Blackpool" and believe in the side that scored 3 past Stoke in a cracking 2nd half performance.
We need to pick a formation, probably 3-5-2 after that as it suits our players, and go for it.
I do take that point, and essentially last season Hurst said 4-3-3 and did not deviate and we were very consistent as a result.
But 3-5-2 can get taken apart tactically as we have also seen this season.
I genuinely think the application and work rate of the players is more important.
I do agree that 3-5-2 probably plays to Haynes strengths, and helps overcome some of our weaknesses at centre half.
We look useless when we play long ball as well.
Your last point is the one i agree with most. We looked utterly useless lumping it up to Angol/AAH, neither are any good at this level.
Hate long ball, attacking wing backs is what suits the players we have and in Grant we have one hell of an engine in the middle.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 17, 2019 15:56:31 GMT 1
Your last point is the one i agree with most. We looked utterly useless lumping it up to Angol/AAH, neither are any good at this level.
Hate long ball, attacking wing backs is what suits the players we have and in Grant we have one hell of an engine in the middle.
Yes totally.
First half Okenabirhie was overlapping his own full back to try and help.
Second half he is on the should of the defenders.
Just don't punt an aimless ball to him.
But his link up play from his feet is matchwinning, as he proved on Tuesday when he made Williams look like a total mug for the third goal.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jan 17, 2019 16:01:09 GMT 1
Since the start of the season quite a lot on blue and amber - including myself - have said constantly, that with this group of players 3-5-2 is the 'best suited' formation for The Shrews. I just love wingers and quick wide men, they bring so much more to the 'beautiful game'. Having said that though, "NO SYSTEM" is fool proof, and there will always be a team/manager somewhere who can break a particular system down. This is why - if that is the case with us - there HAS to be a good alternative. Maybe 4-4-2 !! Maybe 4-3-3 !! but I think our best alternative might be 4-1-4-1 with the players we have at the moment. Surely the coaching staff practice ALTERNATIVE systems !!!! That is what the training ground is for methinks ! But we have to be prepared, and able, to put other formations into practice if the one we are playing on the day isn't working. I am slightly biased on 3-5-2 of course being an ex winger in my playing days many moons ago. Defenders hate, ABSOLUTELY HATE, pace running at them, and in Whalley, Fiji, Docherty, Haynes, Eisa and maybe Bolton and Gillead we have it.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 17, 2019 16:04:04 GMT 1
Whalley and Edwards are both unavailable Saturday due to injury. unfortunately in Edwards case since 2017 he had played less than half the league games ,if he has a sever groin strain he could be out for up to 6 weeks. with Whalley considering the style of player he is then you would think they would not a repeat of what happened last time.
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wayahead
Midland League Division Two
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Post by wayahead on Jan 17, 2019 18:32:13 GMT 1
Agree with Martinshrew, got to stick with that eleven. Arnold, Bolton, Beckles, Waterfall, Sadler, Haynes, Docherty, Grant, Laurent, Fey, Gilliaed. Although I think Norburn will come straight back in to the side for Laurent. Fresh pair of legs and all. Why would you ever think that?
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wayahead
Midland League Division Two
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Post by wayahead on Jan 17, 2019 18:34:20 GMT 1
Think we need to stick with the 3-5-2 for a run of games and let the players get used to it . I’d like to see the following at Blackpool. Waterfall is still a good leader and offfers a lot in the air. Put Bolton and Beckles with more pace either side will only help him. Emmanuel also offers a lot more going forward than Bolton Arnold Emmanuel Bolton Waterfall Beckles Haynes Docherty Grant Laurent Gilliead Okenbirhie Maybe without a big man up front we can start playing some football again.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 18, 2019 18:46:43 GMT 1
With emmanuel going back we would have to play Bolton at right wing back. Is he attacking enough for this position?
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Post by blueboy62 on Jan 18, 2019 18:57:41 GMT 1
With emmanuel going back we would have to play Bolton at right wing back. Is he attacking enough for this position? Ask Federici in the stoke goal
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