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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jan 13, 2019 11:34:01 GMT 1
What are people's views on our record signing?
Fact Docherty is having a poor spell is showing how alarmingly poor Laurent and Ollie have been.
Time to step up Ollie, not particularly quick with the ball and rather keen on 'coasting' through games.
Only coming to light now me thinks.
Improvement needed ASAP.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 13, 2019 11:35:26 GMT 1
Flatters to deceive. Contributes very little. Often seems in no man’s land
Make me think does he know his role/position in this diamond? Is he comfortable in the position?
Had a nightmare yesterday imo
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Post by markievw on Jan 13, 2019 11:40:27 GMT 1
Too much of an attitude in my opinion. Very arrogant player. Thinks he is a lot better than he is which is an average league 1 player at best. Bryn Morris is a better technical player in my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 11:43:38 GMT 1
Underwhelming so far. Last few games he has tried to get involved more but he still doesn't look comfortable
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 13, 2019 11:47:38 GMT 1
He doesn’t go missing during games like Docherty, and does get stuck in, but I thought he would’ve been a bit more dynamic or a bit better technically. Does seem to get p**sed off very easily.
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Post by horse01 on Jan 13, 2019 11:50:47 GMT 1
Disappointing
For him to stand there yesterday, with his arm aloft, appealing for a throw-in, whilst the ball was trickling out off him, and us being 2-0 down was criminal in footballing terms. He should be busting a gut for that.
Improvement much needed
(Not just him though)
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 13, 2019 12:12:28 GMT 1
Ollie like some others has had some good games and was improving as a player. Most of the time he works hard and as a team player and he knows where the net is tho yesterday his lack of confidence in the goal area was evident again. he seems to get frustrated when others don't play as he would wish and argues with the other players. His temper needs managing. I don't think any of the players are 100% certain about what they are doing in this diamond and confidence is dropping again throughout the team I agree that Bryn Morris is a much better player, but the club seems determined to sell off our best players and bring in non league hopefuls. I agree it is good that we give some lower league/ non league players a chance, but not when we are close to being relegated.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 13, 2019 12:41:42 GMT 1
What are people's views on our record signing? You forget things like that. Our record signing.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 13, 2019 12:50:40 GMT 1
What are people's views on our record signing? You forget things like that. Our record signing. Would have been worth the money had we signed Nor wood.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 13, 2019 12:56:28 GMT 1
Very average but also never really hides. In fact it was most uncharacteristic (and plain wrong) that he left the ball to run out of play in the 2nd half but normally, despite his evident ego/moaning, I look to Norburn to be the one that presses & harries when the others labour. Fleetwood & Accrington spring to mind, spells when he felt angry at the rest and bust a gut to get us going, to no avail.
Horrendous performance on the ball yesterday mind, a worrying trend to go alongside Docherty’s major blip.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 13, 2019 13:06:32 GMT 1
I agree that Bryn Morris is a much better player, but the club seems determined to sell off our best players and bring in non league hopefuls. I agree it is good that we give some lower league/ non league players a chance, but not when we are close to being relegated. Ricketts was asked in te post match interview something like ‘we’ve got Bryn Morris out on loan any thoughts on bringing him back’ The answer was something hing like ‘there’s a couple of clubs interested in him ‘ .... then silence Not his decision
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 13:10:25 GMT 1
Given that the previous record fee I believe was in the region of 170k for Grant Holt then it’s a fair assumption that Norburn was 175k+. Askey spent so we are told 600k on 9 players so that leaves around 425k on 8 at an average of around 50k each, yesterdays performance (& others) prove that quality costs and you get what you pay for
As for Norburn - said it from the first time I saw him in a Town shirt, rubbish and not worth a fee anywhere near record figures
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 13, 2019 13:13:00 GMT 1
What are people's views on our record signing? You forget things like that. Our record signing. Come on though record signing sounds like we pushed the boat out... region of £200k says it all when we’d sold two players for 1.5million
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Post by shrewd67 on Jan 13, 2019 13:16:32 GMT 1
Poor, does nowhere near enough.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 13, 2019 13:30:51 GMT 1
he is like many of the new players shows glimpses of ability but is inconsistent .against Charlton he was very predictable and was easily nullified.
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Post by tvor on Jan 13, 2019 13:36:32 GMT 1
I'm sure I read that Town had met Tranmere's release clause fee for Norburn which was £250,000.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 15:14:34 GMT 1
Money NOT well spent at this moment in time. Put it this way if we tried to sell him tomorrow I doubt if there would be many if any takers.
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Post by Liam on Jan 13, 2019 15:26:41 GMT 1
Decent enough League One player.
Chippy little sod.
Would probably look much better with some proper wingers to exchange passes with.
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Post by callum on Jan 13, 2019 15:58:07 GMT 1
You forget things like that. Our record signing. Would have been worth the money had we signed Nor wood.We probably meant to but messed it up.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2019 15:59:22 GMT 1
Think like a lot of Askey's signings Norburn is a decent conference or league two player but doesn't have the game or physicality for league one. Compare him with someone like Prattley or Williams playing for Charlton yesterday and its really men against boys in terms of experience and quality.
I'm keeping an open mind about Ricketts as he has inherited a right old missmatch of a squad. Letting Askey loose with the transfer budget and letting him spend it on also rans is looking like one of our clubs biggest mistakes since we moved to the new ground. I'm not sure how we move most of them on and get better quality in but hope Ricketts can pull a full surprises in the transfer window
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Post by callum on Jan 13, 2019 16:08:36 GMT 1
Think like a lot of Askey's signings Norburn is a decent conference or league two player but doesn't have the game or physicality for league one. Compare him with someone like Prattley or Williams playing for Charlton yesterday and its really men against boys in terms of experience and quality. I'm keeping an open mind about Ricketts as he has inherited a right old missmatch of a squad. Letting Askey loose with the transfer budget and letting him spend it on also rans is looking like one of our clubs biggest mistakes since we moved to the new ground. I'm not sure how we move most of them on and get better quality in but hope Ricketts can pull a full surprises in the transfer window I agree he has inherited the squad but it is the same squad that Danny Coyne won 5 out of 6 with. It 's only started to go backwards again since Ricketts pitched up. He certainly hasn't impressed me yet in the transfer window, signs a player that hasn't played all season puts him straight in the squad and guess what he gets injured again, then signs another player and loans him straight back out as he can't play for us this season. He needs to sign players for now as the way he's going he won't be here next season.
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Post by shrewsoftheworld on Jan 13, 2019 16:27:35 GMT 1
Inconsistent game to game & within games at the moment.
Thought he was ok first half yesterday (along with the team in general) but faded badly as the game went away from us.
Definitely some talent there & it may well be next season before we get the best out of him as it is his first spell in League 1 I believe
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Post by tvor on Jan 13, 2019 17:12:54 GMT 1
Think like a lot of Askey's signings Norburn is a decent conference or league two player but doesn't have the game or physicality for league one. Compare him with someone like Prattley or Williams playing for Charlton yesterday and its really men against boys in terms of experience and quality. That is Town's transfer policy these days, to try to identify and sign players from lower leagues who can be improved and possibly then sold on at a profit. I'm not saying that Norburn will be one of those players, in fact I'll be surprised if we were to get our money back on him, but it has worked well in the past few years for several such signings. Charlton have the financial clout to pay sufficient wages to attract players like Prattley and Williams coming down from the Championship. Dave Edwards aside I don't think we are so have to rely on supplementing the lower league signings with higher league loanees.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 13, 2019 17:30:14 GMT 1
Think like a lot of Askey's signings Norburn is a decent conference or league two player but doesn't have the game or physicality for league one. Compare him with someone like Prattley or Williams playing for Charlton yesterday and its really men against boys in terms of experience and quality. That is Town's transfer policy these days, to try to identify and sign players from lower leagues who can be improved and possibly then sold on at a profit. I'm not saying that Norburn will be one of those players, in fact I'll be surprised if we were to get our money back on him, but it has worked well in the past few years for several such signings. Charlton have the financial clout to pay sufficient wages to attract players like Prattley and Williams coming down from the Championship. Dave Edwards aside I don't think we are so have to rely on supplementing the lower league signings with higher league loanees. I've no problem with sourcing players from the lower leagues, but their doesn't seem to have been much dilligence in how Askey sourced his players. Norburn is now 26 and had been knocking round a couple of league 2 clubs for a few years, before dropping out of the league and having a successful season in the Conference with Tranmere. With the best will in the world its optimistic to think he's going to suddenly kick on at that age and establish himself in league one. Similar pattern with players like Waterfall and Laurent, and of course a number of Askey's signings like Kennedy and Loft havn't event got to the first team. Think however we move forward making sure we really focus on signings and not just employ a scatter gun approach in the future is going to be key.
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Post by haughmond on Jan 13, 2019 18:38:23 GMT 1
Very good player. Gets up and down the pitch, show good skills and tries to work openings. Unfortunately those he is playing with, especially the forwards, don’ t provide options for him. Norwood ( Tranmere) is a decent Conference/ maybe League 2 player, but did f.a. In the cup game for Tranmere . Still, let’s criticise the management for bringing in lower league players into a League 1 environment, but champion the likes of hot - shot Norwood.
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Post by R6ix on Jan 13, 2019 18:50:00 GMT 1
i may have been a little more impressed had he been a free signing, but he does not much else that average players can do,he probably looked good in the national league against lesser teams and thats what impressed askey,but as askey had never managed at this level it seems he spent big on the wrong type of player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 19:31:51 GMT 1
Think like a lot of Askey's signings Norburn is a decent conference or league two player but doesn't have the game or physicality for league one. Compare him with someone like Prattley or Williams playing for Charlton yesterday and its really men against boys in terms of experience and quality. I'm keeping an open mind about Ricketts as he has inherited a right old missmatch of a squad. Letting Askey loose with the transfer budget and letting him spend it on also rans is looking like one of our clubs biggest mistakes since we moved to the new ground. I'm not sure how we move most of them on and get better quality in but hope Ricketts can pull a full surprises in the transfer window Pretty harsh comparison considering yesterday was Williams first game at this level after playing his entire career in championship and prem. Pratley likewise has spent 90% of his career at the level above. Lets not forget either that both of the above will be on at least 4 /5 times what norburn is on. Norburn is neat and tidy. As someone else mentioned if we had any sort of width and quality up front for him to pop some balls into then he'd be even better.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 13, 2019 20:05:39 GMT 1
In an effort to fit our best players in the team our best players are being asked to do things which don't suit them.
Play norburn in the middle and let's see what he can do.
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Post by markglasgow on Jan 13, 2019 20:34:10 GMT 1
Out of interest is the questioning of his ability a common theme on here? I find him relatively consistent and have been impressed by the step up he's made from non-league to L1. I'm relatively happy with the contribution he's made this season and agree that a more central berth would get the best out of him.
The lad hasn't become a bad player overnight.
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Post by masshrop on Jan 13, 2019 21:05:59 GMT 1
My own opionion good player when team on top otherwise abit like grant soon give up i e yesterday watch grants body language after pen
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