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Post by gtismygod on Jan 12, 2019 18:45:41 GMT 1
That was an absolute horror show.
The players should be ashamed. Everyone other than Arnold and Haynes were poor.
Even things like controlling the ball seemed difficult today.
I think our biggest problem is the fact there is no width to our attacks. We could be playing till midnight and we wouldn’t score.
We need bring some quality in or we’ll be relegated.
Where are the goals going to come from?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jan 12, 2019 18:50:13 GMT 1
Not Angol.
Never seen a player look so uninterested in my life.
The Shop isn't much good but at least tries.
Get rid.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jan 12, 2019 18:53:33 GMT 1
Was doing dry January, but that performance has put paid to that!
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Post by RBA on Jan 12, 2019 18:56:56 GMT 1
First half not great but not terrible second half just awful really really bad -Haynes only out field player who distinguished himself Arnold saved us from losing 6-0 Waterfall and SadS lack pace and Waterfall made some howlers today- midfield ineffective -forwards need far too long to get a shot away Set pieces dire if we don't get some quality in we could well be relegated Having said all that Charlton looked decent especially going forward
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:57:47 GMT 1
Was doing dry January, but that performance has put paid to that! After watching that horror show I need a stiff drink too, sod the medication!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 18:58:34 GMT 1
afire two turgid performances,were town were out thought ,out fought today could be summed up by predictable, ponderous and poor. whilst i know it is early for Rickets and he needs time our performances are not improving ,we are slipping down the table ,three of the other teams below us have a hit a run of form and we are going backwards. if not for three good saves from Arnold they would have scored six goals. to be balanced two outstanding saves from Charlton prevented two goal bound shoots. it does not say a lot when the best player was the keeper.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 12, 2019 19:00:45 GMT 1
Was doing dry January, but that performance has put paid to that! Not doing dry January or owt but when Hollway was it, one of our lads in the second half was able to break on our right after a Charlton attack...he kicked the ball too far ahead of him and their lad just came over and swept it up? That's when I headed to the fridge for a beer...that was the straw that broke the camels back... <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78190553" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_3995426" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99380221" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20413967" scrolling="no"></iframe>
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Post by horse01 on Jan 12, 2019 19:02:11 GMT 1
Arnold- some decent saves, but bloody awful distribution
Haynes- out of position too often, but no surprise with his lack of help. Poor delivery.
Waterfall- slow, disorganised. Crap
Sadler- see waterfall
Bolton- shocking distribution. Too predictable.
Grant- his worst performance
Docherty- not good.
Norburn- overrated. Criminal standing with your hand up instead of running the ball down. Over inflated ego.
Laurent- crap
Holloway- not good enough. Crap.
Okenabihrie- no service. Expected to deal with high balls. Poor
Gilliead- offered very little.
Edwards- no impact (no time to), except for his groin.
Angol- get rid. (And take Holloway and Laurent with you)
Ricketts- why on earth he is persisting with this s**tty formation is beyond me?? I’ve said it for weeks- even when we were winning. As for substituting Docherty before Laurent??? At least docherty can score and puts himself about. SR needs to buck his ideas up, because his current ones aren’t working
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 19:02:22 GMT 1
First half not great but not terrible second half just awful really really bad -Haynes only out field player who distinguished himself Arnold saved us from losing 6-0 Waterfall and SadS lack pace and Waterfall made some howlers today- midfield ineffective -forwards need far too long to get a shot away Set pieces dire if we don't get some quality in we could well be relegated Having said all that Charlton looked decent especially going forward unfortunately all three charlton goals came defensive errors two were down to waterfall and one by grant . they were sharper than town , they attacked with more variations ,they pulled town all over the place and then exploited the gaps in sharp contrast most our attacks were predictable and easily nullified . tactically town did not adapt to the game that was clearly unravelling.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 12, 2019 19:02:42 GMT 1
We had 4 central midfield players on the pitch and we still couldn’t get a proper foothold on the game. We should be controlling games with the way we set up. We seemed to lose every 50/50 today as well.
Jonny Williams ran the show for them before he went off, he’s far too good for league one.
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Post by chameleon on Jan 12, 2019 19:02:48 GMT 1
It’s not looking good. Several new players required in January to have a chance of staying up. Today was absolutely shocking. I could see in the first ten minutes we needed some width.
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Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Jan 12, 2019 19:04:32 GMT 1
Not Angol. Never seen a player look so uninterested in my life. The Shop isn't much good but at least tries. Get rid. Angol looked sharper and interested when he came on. On thinking about it, he may have looked better due to Holloway being horrendous.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 19:08:04 GMT 1
It’s not looking good. Several new players required in January to have a chance of staying up. Today was absolutely shocking. I could see in the first ten minutes we needed some width. <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.280000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 18.720000000000027px; height: 3.280000000000001px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32810730" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.280000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_15930145" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.280000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 104px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59626256" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.720000000000027" height="3.280000000000001" style="position: absolute; width: 18.72px; height: 3.28px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 881px; top: 104px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_93096189" scrolling="no"></iframe> one of the downsides of the diamond formation is you dont get width .
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Post by horse01 on Jan 12, 2019 19:08:08 GMT 1
It’s not looking good. Several new players required in January to have a chance of staying up. Today was absolutely shocking. I could see in the first ten minutes we needed some width. I could see about two months ago that we needed width. This formation is shocking. It should be the best team that is put on the pitch, not try and accommodate the best players (allegedly)
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 12, 2019 19:10:09 GMT 1
It’s not looking good. Several new players required in January to have a chance of staying up. Today was absolutely shocking. I could see in the first ten minutes we needed some width. The worrying thing is that this has been obvious for weeks. We barely score any goals and have so few dangerous attacks. 4-1-4-1. I’m not Gilliaed’s biggest fan but let’s play him on the right, put Beckles back in at LB, and maybe Haynes on the left wing for the time being until we can bring somebody in. I get the idea of trying to shoehorn all of our best players into the starting eleven but we can’t persist with this midfield diamond, it doesn’t work.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 12, 2019 19:15:39 GMT 1
When was the last time we scored from open play?
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Post by ambergambler on Jan 12, 2019 19:16:45 GMT 1
Awful today not one of our front 3 anticipates any knock downs , flick ons or rebounds always flat footed.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 19:17:17 GMT 1
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 12, 2019 19:24:41 GMT 1
What’s really funny is that Ricketts wasn’t in the market for a striker until LJL picked up an injury, and it turns out the GK situation has taken him by surprise too. I can’t say I’m impressed, not his bunch of players or not, he’s obsessed with a plan & I don’t think our unprofessional lot enjoy listening to methodical plans each day.
That’s the way I see it, he can’t manage these players. It’s been boring or awful since he walked in, way way below what Coyne got out of them.
The offsides, fitness, whinging & general lack of organisation today smacks of a side that’s got too many ‘lads’ in it. That they they responded best to a ‘back to basics, let’s work harder but have fun’ environment says it all for me. Add into the mix that Holloway & Laurent are atrocious footballers but don’t seem to lose their place & you start to realise how bad the overall squad is. A huge two weeks.
Lastly, am I missing something with Angol? I don’t see training and nor did I see the checkatrade so can’t comment on that, but his sub appearances don’t seem to lack effort to me. Holloway hasn’t closed down a defensive clearance since 1973, so it’s similar in that respect except in his last home cameo he created a chance with his first touch & todays flick and run was more than AAH produced in 80 minutes. Oh, and he’s scored goals in his one regular spell - the same amount AAH has managed in 5 years. I hated Angol at Oxford but he’s since served his time and I’d throw him in without doubt, seems it’s only me.
Bring on Tuesday. Backs to the wall fun I’m sure!
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Post by tvor on Jan 12, 2019 19:31:26 GMT 1
Charlton's diamond was better than our diamond so we couldn't get any real foothold in the game. It took Ricketts far too long to recognise this and change it.
I heard much on the radio after the game about how good Charlton were. They may be fourth but coming into this game today Town were unbeaten at home in ten games and Charlton's away form was patchy.
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Jan 12, 2019 19:44:16 GMT 1
Charlton's diamond was better than our diamond so we couldn't get any real foothold in the game. It took Ricketts far too long to recognise this and change it. I heard much on the radio after the game about how good Charlton were. They may be fourth but coming into this game today Town were unbeaten at home in ten games and Charlton's away form was patchy. Charlton aren’t a great team, otherwise they would have won by 10. We made them look good today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:46:34 GMT 1
Charlton's diamond was better than our diamond so we couldn't get any real foothold in the game. It took Ricketts far too long to recognise this and change it. I heard much on the radio after the game about how good Charlton were. They may be fourth but coming into this game today Town were unbeaten at home in ten games and Charlton's away form was patchy. Charlton aren’t a great team, otherwise they would have won by 10. We made them look good today. could be 10 Tuesday .
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Post by vixenshrew on Jan 12, 2019 20:12:21 GMT 1
I thought we played ok in the first half, although Charlton were the better side, but as others have said the second half was awful. It seems a pattern with this team - a game of 2 halfs. Why I wonder did they waste a couple of corners? I would have thought its best to at least get the ball in the box as this gives the better chance of getting a goal, but no we have to do something fancy which is obviously what they have been doing in training but both times offside was called. We seem to be back to square 1 with no confidence in front of goal but why? What's changed? We are also back to heading keeping the ball high, surely its best to get the ball down on the pitch and play and once again we're back to hoofing it to the other side of pitch without any care to whom they are aiming it at, so it end up with a Charlton player.
Now don't get me wrong I'm not criticising Ricketts as it takes time to settle in, and given time he hopefully will improve, but you would think that the club would have learnt from Askey about taking on a non league manager again. I know he's been a player previously in the leagues, but playing isn't managing and yes it has worked before but given we are halfway through the season perhaps this wasn't their best decision.
We really need a player that knows where the goal is, if we don't get this then I fear we will have little hope oh surviving this season. Having said that, however I thought the booing by the fans at the end was uncalled for. This is the time to get behind the team who obviously still lack confidence and booing just isn't going to help.
Also the absolute Moron that sits in block 15 row L who was standing up applauding when Charlton scored and won the ball is an absolute disgrace. This individual is not a shrewsbury town supporter just a t****r who likes the sound of his own voice. Many of us are disappointed at the performance and loss, but we accept it, go home ( or to the pub) and have a beer and we will return at the next match supporting the team on. There's no justification for the booing, the team will obviously feel bad enough at the loss without having their noses rubbed in it.
Onwards and hopefully upwards COYB
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Post by callum on Jan 12, 2019 20:14:33 GMT 1
I have to say I haven't been impressed with Ricketts at all, his whole demeanour doesn't inspire confidence, he stands on the touchline for long periods with his hands in his pockets.
He just looks like he doesn't want to be here to me.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 20:17:40 GMT 1
today was a shambles ,tactically it looked like amateur hour and what on earth was going on with the free kicks.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jan 12, 2019 20:18:46 GMT 1
Was doing dry January, but that performance has put paid to that! After watching that horror show I need a stiff drink too, sod the medication! I have (seriously) done dry January for last 5 or 6 years. Am now demolishing a bottle of Shiraz!
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Post by Liam on Jan 12, 2019 20:19:45 GMT 1
You know that annoying t**t at work?
The one who was born in Shifnal but "supports" United from his armchair, and makes hilarious "I don't know why you bother!!" comments every time the topic of football comes up, even though he's only ever been to about six actual games?
Well, today was the sort of day to make you wonder if perhaps he's got a point after all.
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 12, 2019 20:21:52 GMT 1
the absolute Moron that sits in block 15 row L who was standing up applauding when Charlton scored and won the ball is an absolute disgrace. This individual is not a shrewsbury town supporter just a t****r who likes the sound of his own voice. Many of us are disappointed at the performance and loss, but we accept it, go home ( or to the pub) and have a beer and we will return at the next match supporting the team on. There's no justification for the booing, the team will obviously feel bad enough at the loss without having their noses rubbed in it. Onwards and hopefully upwards COYB Some of the negative pricks in block 10 today were driving me mad. Not sure why some people bother going, not interested in supporting the team at all. I know today was shocking but take it down a notch.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 20:21:54 GMT 1
I thought we played ok in the first half, although Charlton were the better side, but as others have said the second half was awful. It seems a pattern with this team - a game of 2 halfs. Why I wonder did they waste a couple of corners? I would have thought its best to at least get the ball in the box as this gives the better chance of getting a goal, but no we have to do something fancy which is obviously what they have been doing in training but both times offside was called. We seem to be back to square 1 with no confidence in front of goal but why? What's changed? We are also back to heading keeping the ball high, surely its best to get the ball down on the pitch and play and once again we're back to hoofing it to the other side of pitch without any care to whom they are aiming it at, so it end up with a Charlton player. Now don't get me wrong I'm not criticising Ricketts as it takes time to settle in, and given time he hopefully will improve, but you would think that the club would have learnt from Askey about taking on a non league manager again. I know he's been a player previously in the leagues, but playing isn't managing and yes it has worked before but given we are halfway through the season perhaps this wasn't their best decision. We really need a player that knows where the goal is, if we don't get this then I fear we will have little hope oh surviving this season. Having said that, however I thought the booing by the fans at the end was uncalled for. This is the time to get behind the team who obviously still lack confidence and booing just isn't going to help. Also the absolute Moron that sits in block 15 row L who was standing up applauding when Charlton scored and won the ball is an absolute disgrace. This individual is not a shrewsbury town supporter just a t****r who likes the sound of his own voice. Many of us are disappointed at the performance and loss, but we accept it, go home ( or to the pub) and have a beer and we will return at the next match supporting the team on. There's no justification for the booing, the team will obviously feel bad enough at the loss without having their noses rubbed in it. Onwards and hopefully upwards COYB i dont like booing either the players know they under-performed .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 12, 2019 20:27:31 GMT 1
i do try and find a balance SO the keeper was man of the match for me three vital saves (two one on ones) saved us from a horrible scoreline.the charlton keeper made two very good saves from the two best moments in the game. Haynes worked really hard in the first half and looked the town player most likely to make something happen(first half) not sure what happened to the other 9 as they seem to have a collective bad day at the office. i am drowning my sorrows with Penderyn Legend Single Malt Welsh Whisky
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