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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 12, 2019 18:14:38 GMT 1
My god that was bad, takes me back to the L1 days under GT & Mellon. A disjointed team with a clear lack of quality Today has ended the myth we are a good side that Askey failed to get the best out of. A poor team that will be in a relegation battle My worry is players in squad always thinking they should be higher up the league, yet seemed oblivious we're in a relegation battle and don't have fight to drag the team away from relegation zone. I give you Exhibit A: a Mr O Norburn
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 12, 2019 18:18:26 GMT 1
Well that was truly dire
We really could end up in a relegation scrap here
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Post by SamHarvey on Jan 12, 2019 18:25:25 GMT 1
Well that was truly dire We really are in a relegation scr@p here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:30:04 GMT 1
A truly disgraceful performance. How we are still playing this formation is beyond me, no protection to the full backs and absolutely no width going forwards. Arnold’s shot stopping was the only thing preventing double figures, but even his performance was tainted by horrendous kicking.
Waterfall is out of his depth and even Sadler had an off day, he needs a better partner alongside him. I’m just baffled by this formation, nobody knows what the game plan is or where to pass because we have no width or options, so it becomes tedious and predictable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:31:16 GMT 1
My worry is players in squad always thinking they should be higher up the league, yet seemed oblivious we're in a relegation battle and don't have fight to drag the team away from relegation zone. I give you Exhibit A: a Mr O Norburn Added to that we have followed a poor managerial appointment (Askey) with an even poorer one. Ricketts no where near ready for league 1. We can only hope for the best now.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jan 12, 2019 18:31:43 GMT 1
What an awful performance.
We have so little quality in the squad going forward it’s a joke. No wonder we aren’t a threat the only chance of scoring we have is by punting it in the box and hoping for knock downs . Okenabirhie might have scored a couple goals but he really isn’t the answer . We need two new strikers.
Norburn & Laurent both very over rated. Norburn thinks he’s better than he is and can’t keep it simple . Also spends every week just arguing with all our players. And Laurent works hard so everyone loves him - but unfortunately there’s no quality there and he can’t play CAM
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 12, 2019 18:31:50 GMT 1
Let’s be honest how many of those players would you actually be gutted about if they left tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:35:21 GMT 1
What an awful performance. We have so little quality in the squad going forward it’s a joke. No wonder we aren’t a threat the only chance of scoring we have is by punting it in the box and hoping for knock downs . Okenabirhie might have scored a couple goals but he really isn’t the answer . We need two new strikers. Norburn & Laurent both very over rated. Norburn thinks he’s better than he is and can’t keep it simple . Also spends every week just arguing with all our players. And Laurent works hard so everyone loves him - but unfortunately there’s no quality there and he can’t play CAM Norburn should be fined two weeks wages for standing motionless with his hand raised asking for a throw in second half instead of actually breaking into a sweat to try and keep the thing in, which was their throw anyway, needs dropping for that alone.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 12, 2019 18:39:24 GMT 1
You may be joking? but just back and my wife who doesn’t go to football says Ricketts sound like a a broken man on the radio similar to Askey just before he was sacked....... Have we ever had 3 managers in the same season? The boards decision to act quickly in sacking Askey has put them in a very difficult position. Need to invest heavily to bring in better player but do they trust Ricketts to do this?
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 12, 2019 18:40:24 GMT 1
What do you mean "could"...! After witnessing the last few games and the teams that are below us, I'd be suprised if we stayed up. Yes. Waterfall is slow,but the real problem is the other end. Utter madness regarding our strike power considering the money spent. Were buying players and f*****g loaning them back when we have two forwards of which one the club don't want (and he's not interested) and the other couldn't get into a team that was relegated out of this league! And we can all see why ! Cheers Askey. If we have money to get Wreham back I to the football league then I am expecting some action in the transfer market ! Ok. I'll put it out there. If we don't obtain a semi decent forward in the next 19 games I'm saying were down?
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 12, 2019 18:40:29 GMT 1
Let’s be honest how many of those players would you actually be gutted about if they left tomorrow? One Grant and possibly two Arnold because that would leave us with no goalkeeper. Oh and Haynes did look interested.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 12, 2019 18:40:39 GMT 1
We are chaotic at the moment. We are slow and ponderous at the back, lack any real firepower at the front yet we have a glut of midfielders. Ricketts needs to sort it out and fast as the relegation battle looms large. We need some players that have some stomach for a fight. It's one thing that Hurst did very well when he first came in - he worked with what he had and did very well with it. I'm not seeing the same knack from Ricketts. But let's see what happens in January. I think Hurst is still available
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 12, 2019 18:47:20 GMT 1
What an awful performance. We have so little quality in the squad going forward it’s a joke. No wonder we aren’t a threat the only chance of scoring we have is by punting it in the box and hoping for knock downs . Okenabirhie might have scored a couple goals but he really isn’t the answer . We need two new strikers. Norburn & Laurent both very over rated. Norburn thinks he’s better than he is and can’t keep it simple . Also spends every week just arguing with all our players. And Laurent works hard so everyone loves him - but unfortunately there’s no quality there and he can’t play CAM Sorry but over rated by who? I’m not sure ive heard anyone rate either of them?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:47:48 GMT 1
Now that was a tonking in anyone's books.
We were lucky to come away without a damn good thrashing.
Did some of our players have half a mind on the upcoming cup replay? because it certainly looked like it. We looked so ponderous, bereft of attacking ideas, no width....no point in going on really, it was there for all to see.
Dire.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 12, 2019 18:48:43 GMT 1
You may be joking? but just back and my wife who doesn’t go to football says Ricketts sound like a a broken man on the radio similar to Askey just before he was sacked....... Have we ever had 3 managers in the same season? The boards decision to act quickly in sacking Askey has put them in a very difficult position. Need to invest heavily to bring in better player but do they trust Ricketts to do this? Was thinking this at the game. If this carries on and we’re bottom with 8 games to go, what will Roland do?
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 12, 2019 18:50:43 GMT 1
Good to see that giving the little darlings a night off onTuesday worked a treat.
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Post by barrynic on Jan 12, 2019 18:51:04 GMT 1
Please dump the diamond it does not work.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 12, 2019 18:52:28 GMT 1
Now that was a tonking in anyone's books. We were lucky to come away without a damn good thrashing. Did some of our players have half a mind on the upcoming cup replay? because it certainly looked like it. We looked so ponderous, bereft of attacking ideas, no width....no point in going on really, it was there for all to see. Dire. I wouldn’t blame the cup replay. That’s letting the players and Ricketts off the hook for me What you’ve described very accurately, is most of our performances under Ricketts
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:55:14 GMT 1
Now that was a tonking in anyone's books. We were lucky to come away without a damn good thrashing. Did some of our players have half a mind on the upcoming cup replay? because it certainly looked like it. We looked so ponderous, bereft of attacking ideas, no width....no point in going on really, it was there for all to see. Dire. I wouldn’t blame the cup replay. That’s letting the players and Ricketts off the hook for me What you’ve described very accurately, is most of our performances under Ricketts To be honest, the reference to the cup replay was me desperately clutching at straws...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 12, 2019 19:13:37 GMT 1
Utter madness regarding our strike power considering the money spent. Have to agree looking to recent performances. None appear good enough individually and they don't look as though they can compensate for that with some partnership. Holloway and Okenabirhie played like strangers today.
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Post by blamber on Jan 12, 2019 19:15:25 GMT 1
Time for Ricketts to bring some real organisation to the side. As we did when Hurst first arrived, players not quite up to it were told what to do and clear game plans were set out. Ricketts has to organise his team in the same way Hurst did and get average players doing a job. Ricketts should do all he can to try and keep Bryn Morris as he's relatively consistent at this level. Perhaps promote a couple of youngsters like Ryan Sears. I'd also try and bring Toto back on loan and give Omar a run in the side as a centre back as we are woefully poor with Waterfall and Sadler together. As for up front, who knows, but hopefully we can have Shaun back soon which may help Fejiri. Ricketts must surely be looking for another striker too. Sc***horpe have really hit the ground running this transfer window and they have the momentum. We are gong the other way so Ricketts needs to get a grip and fast.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 12, 2019 19:20:39 GMT 1
Probably should refrain from making comments so soon after that, but what the hell. Keeper saved us from severe embarrassment - his kicking was wayward but so was everyone else’s. Two centre backs were dire. Bolton defensively looked decidedly non-league. Haynes played well but who’s idea were the ridiculous short corners/ free kicks? Wasting possession - get it in the mixer for heaven’ sake. Midfield was over-run from start to finish, due in no small part to the ridiculous diamond, but also to players refusing to do the basics - past tofeet andrun into space, aided by a decent quality first touch. Holloway was not given any decent service, but when he did get the ball on the ground he tried to over complicate things Fejiri is a luxury player when our backs are against the wall and any hairy-arsed L1 defender can stop him just by blowing him over. Ricketts- seems to be over complicating things on the tactics board rather than concentrating on the basics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:27:16 GMT 1
Well.
I, and others, have kept saying that our dire away form puts pressure on our home form. We can't afford performances like this and Fleetwood, if we fail to pick up points away. It seems to me that this team lacks any real character to pick up points away. And now home.
We have picked up 6 points in the 7 league games that Ricketts has been in charge.
We picked up 10 points in Askey's last 7 league games.
Coyne and Ramsey picked up 6 points in 3 league games.
That's interesting I think, particularly with Coyne and Ramsey. If Coyne didn't want the gig, we may as well have given it to Ramsey.
My own personal view, and the view of a few around me in 17, is that since the 3rd Dec, performance wise we've gone backwards. This type of result has been coming.
So far in this window we've picked up an injury prone 32 year old midfielder (who happens to be Dave Edwards, so that's ok) and a lad we had to loan back to Wrexham. I would have thought the priorities lie elsewhere, up front and at centre-back. Ricketts is going to have to work very, very hard over the next two(?) weeks.
I was wondering on the way out of the ground how many goals Waterfall has cost us due to his individual errors this season. Anyone?
Norburn, is no way better than Morris. And, as pointed out up thread, the way he stood and appealed for a throw in when the ball was winnable was nothing short of disgraceful. I was amused though by his p**s poor back pass in the second half, he had no one to moan at. Must have confused the f00k out of him.
Was thinking about Blackpool next week. I'll the money, time and effort.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:28:47 GMT 1
And, getting caught off side from pretty much the same corner routine is f00king amateur and embarrassing.
Sort that nonsense out.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jan 12, 2019 19:35:08 GMT 1
Marks out of 10: Arnold 5 Bolton 4 Waterfall 2 Sadler 3 Haynes 5 Grant 2 Norburn 2 Laurent 2 Docherty 2 Okenabirhie 3 Holloway 3
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jan 12, 2019 19:36:19 GMT 1
Marks out of 10: Arnold 5 Bolton 4 Waterfall 2 Sadler 3 Haynes 5 Grant 2 Norburn 2 Laurent 2 Docherty 2 Okenabirhie 3 Holloway 3
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Post by northwestman on Jan 12, 2019 19:38:02 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jan 12, 2019 19:42:16 GMT 1
You may be joking? but just back and my wife who doesn’t go to football says Ricketts sound like a a broken man on the radio similar to Askey just before he was sacked....... Have we ever had 3 managers in the same season? The boards decision to act quickly in sacking Askey has put them in a very difficult position. Need to invest heavily to bring in better player but do they trust Ricketts to do this? I heard that interview too. Very unconvincing and totally underwhelming in the comments made.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jan 12, 2019 19:46:34 GMT 1
Haynes and Arnold - apart from his kicking - were the only ones who turned up. Are we actually any better than when JA was manager ?? This diamond formation is going nowhere. We have to revert, quickly, to 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 otherwise relegation could be on the horizon. And of course hope that Whalley is back very soon.
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Post by franthetownfan on Jan 12, 2019 19:57:37 GMT 1
Well that was truly dire We really could end up in a relegation scr@p here Are you joking? 3 points off the drop zone is kinda a relegation scrap as it has looked the entire season pretty much. Slight over-reaction. The side in 4th tonking the side in 18th who have the attacking threat of a wooden spoon. But to say ‘we could end up in a relegation scrap’. That’s like Cardiff saying the same thing!!! I’m sure they’ll bring in some guy on loan who has scored 3 goals in 56 games for Darlington.
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