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Post by tvor on Jan 6, 2019 17:23:45 GMT 1
Lee Angol had a roughly 1 in 3 record in League 1 when he joined us and he has 4 in 22 this season despite all his problems. In my opinion he needs to be persevered with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 18:10:55 GMT 1
I have to say that I'm not a fan of the January transfer window. This is probably due to the fact that our transfer dealings in this window over the last few years has been on the whole pretty disappointing.
Perhaps Rickett's does have an ace or two up his sleeve? His problem is that he needs to get rid of some deadwood as well. So far Jules has been released but at the same time Morris and Jones have returned. Do these 2 figure in his plans?
So many ifs and buts at the moment. It really highlights how spending £600k doesn't necessarily guarantee success or anywhere near it. I just wish we could get Lee Angol back on song.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 6, 2019 18:32:41 GMT 1
Lee Angol had a roughly 1 in 3 record in League 1 when he joined us and he has 4 in 22 this season despite all his problems. In my opinion he needs to be persevered with. The trouble is he is not appearing to be putting much effort in. If he isn't playing for the team you cant persevere with him.
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Post by franthetownfan on Jan 6, 2019 19:15:48 GMT 1
Always, just like Burnley fans should be in their league. Last season was a major over achieval. This year back down to earth and fighting off relegation. Anyone who doesn’t think that is in for a rude awakening, especially since as usual Town haven’t got anything lined up in the transfer window so it’ll be panic buy or sign another s**t lump of a striker who has scored 4 goals in 56 games for Malberry Park FC that can’t shoot for anything but has a ‘high work rate’. This high work rate cliche basically means ‘I’m crap’
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jan 6, 2019 19:18:01 GMT 1
No.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 6, 2019 20:03:57 GMT 1
The biggest waste is the lack of options in Askey & Co's contracts meaning we spent over £450k terminating their contracts and compensating Wrexham to bring in Ricketts. Huge waste for little, if any change.
Pre-season was typical town on the cheap, paying nominal fees for Angol / AAH, neither of which are any good or have previously been good. Why we don't go and spend a half decent sum on a striker baffles me. Despite BC's drivel about us receiving fees/windfalls in instalments (not to mention that's also how we pay them to other clubs!) we can afford to go out and sign a player for upwards of £350/400k, we just choose not to as RW has no ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 20:38:33 GMT 1
The biggest waste is the lack of options in Askey & Co's contracts meaning we spent over £450k terminating their contracts and compensating Wrexham to bring in Ricketts. Huge waste for little, if any change. Pre-season was typical town on the cheap, paying nominal fees for Angol / AAH, neither of which are any good or have previously been good. Why we don't go and spend a half decent sum on a striker baffles me. Despite BC's drivel about us receiving fees/windfalls in instalments (not to mention that's also how we pay them to other clubs!) we can afford to go out and sign a player for upwards of £350/400k, we just choose not to as RW has no ambition. We did break our transfer record this summer, and had a total summer outlay of £600k, as Brian has been at pains to point out. Whether or not the £600k was well spent is another matter.
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Post by markievw on Jan 10, 2019 20:00:45 GMT 1
The biggest waste is the lack of options in Askey & Co's contracts meaning we spent over £450k terminating their contracts and compensating Wrexham to bring in Ricketts. Huge waste for little, if any change. Pre-season was typical town on the cheap, paying nominal fees for Angol / AAH, neither of which are any good or have previously been good. Why we don't go and spend a half decent sum on a striker baffles me. Despite BC's drivel about us receiving fees/windfalls in instalments (not to mention that's also how we pay them to other clubs!) we can afford to go out and sign a player for upwards of £350/400k, we just choose not to as RW has no ambition. We did break our transfer record this summer, and had a total summer outlay of £600k, as Brian has been at pains to point out. Whether or not the £600k was well spent is another matter. Has it well spent? NO!! Loft for a start I mean really why?
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Post by tvor on Jan 10, 2019 20:19:46 GMT 1
Loft is on a one year contract. I fail to see why people continually make such a big deal out of this. It's a squad game cover is needed, he won't be costing very much.
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Post by callum on Jan 10, 2019 21:06:40 GMT 1
Loft is on a one year contract. I fail to see why people continually make such a big deal out of this. It's a squad game cover is needed, he won't be costing very much. The same could be said of Lewis but look at the stick he had, until his injury since when his popularity has dramatically increased.
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Post by callum on Jan 10, 2019 21:10:45 GMT 1
The biggest waste is the lack of options in Askey & Co's contracts meaning we spent over £450k terminating their contracts and compensating Wrexham to bring in Ricketts. Huge waste for little, if any change. Pre-season was typical town on the cheap, paying nominal fees for Angol / AAH, neither of which are any good or have previously been good. Why we don't go and spend a half decent sum on a striker baffles me. Despite BC's drivel about us receiving fees/windfalls in instalments (not to mention that's also how we pay them to other clubs!) we can afford to go out and sign a player for upwards of £350/400k, we just choose not to as RW has no ambition. If we had spent a half decent sum on a striker last January we would have gone up. Lesson still not learnt.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 10, 2019 21:15:53 GMT 1
The biggest waste is the lack of options in Askey & Co's contracts meaning we spent over £450k terminating their contracts and compensating Wrexham to bring in Ricketts. Huge waste for little, if any change. Pre-season was typical town on the cheap, paying nominal fees for Angol / AAH, neither of which are any good or have previously been good. Why we don't go and spend a half decent sum on a striker baffles me. Despite BC's drivel about us receiving fees/windfalls in instalments (not to mention that's also how we pay them to other clubs!) we can afford to go out and sign a player for upwards of £350/400k, we just choose not to as RW has no ambition. If we had spent a half decent sum on a striker last January we would have gone up. Lesson still not learnt. Oh to live in such a simple minded world Remind me how much we spent on Nathan Elder? Or an outside example, how much did Liverpool spend on Andy Carroll? Money doesn’t equal a good player
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Post by callum on Jan 10, 2019 21:25:39 GMT 1
If we had spent a half decent sum on a striker last January we would have gone up. Lesson still not learnt. Oh to live in such a simple minded world Remind me how much we spent on Nathan Elder? Or an outside example, how much did Liverpool spend on Andy Carroll? Money doesn’t equal a good player You are quite right it doesnt, but if you don't gamble you'll never know. Blackburn gambled on Adam Armstrong and look where they ended up.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 10, 2019 21:31:31 GMT 1
Oh to live in such a simple minded world Remind me how much we spent on Nathan Elder? Or an outside example, how much did Liverpool spend on Andy Carroll? Money doesn’t equal a good player You are quite right it doesnt, but if you don't gamble you'll never know. Blackburn gambled on Adam Armstrong and look where they ended up. All that comparison does is show how much we punched above our weight all season Blackburn could flex their muscles in January to sign a player we could never ever afford Likewise Wigan did the same in January, spending money on players who didn’t even get in their 11 We can’t compete with them
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Post by gtismygod on Jan 10, 2019 21:34:00 GMT 1
Oh to live in such a simple minded world Remind me how much we spent on Nathan Elder? Or an outside example, how much did Liverpool spend on Andy Carroll? Money doesn’t equal a good player You are quite right it doesnt, but if you don't gamble you'll never know. Blackburn gambled on Adam Armstrong and look where they ended up. Not sure that was much of a gamble, everyone knew how good he was. But yes, we need to gamble on a decent centre-forward. Let's settle on somebody we think is quality at this level and then do whatever we need to do to bring him in. If we have to pay a decent fee so be it. Sick and tired of it now, we've been crying out for one for over a year. Should have brought Shankland in for a decent fee in the summer, bet he'd be in double figures for us by now.
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Post by kfordshrew on Jan 10, 2019 21:37:38 GMT 1
Oh to live in such a simple minded world Remind me how much we spent on Nathan Elder? Or an outside example, how much did Liverpool spend on Andy Carroll? Money doesn’t equal a good player You are quite right it doesnt, but if you don't gamble you'll never know. Blackburn gambled on Adam Armstrong and look where they ended up. With losses of £15 million for last season and £124 million debt overall
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 11, 2019 0:05:39 GMT 1
You are quite right it doesnt, but if you don't gamble you'll never know. Blackburn gambled on Adam Armstrong and look where they ended up. Not sure that was much of a gamble, everyone knew how good he was. But yes, we need to gamble on a decent centre-forward. Let's settle on somebody we think is quality at this level and then do whatever we need to do to bring him in. If we have to pay a decent fee so be it. Sick and tired of it now, we've been crying out for one for over a year. Should have brought Shankland in for a decent fee in the summer, bet he'd be in double figures for us by now. Could have spent a decent amount on Shankland and he picked up a long term injury in his first game and we would still be moaning about RW ‘lack of ambition’
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:23:08 GMT 1
Concerned? Yep.
Anyone who watched that today certainly should be too - that was a relegation performance.
A big couple of weeks coming up for Sam, on and off the field.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 12, 2019 18:25:03 GMT 1
We’re going backwards, sleepwalking in to the relegation battle
Very concerned
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Post by shrewder on Jan 12, 2019 18:31:50 GMT 1
Was always on the cards that this was how this season would go.
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Post by horse01 on Jan 12, 2019 18:47:38 GMT 1
If we weren’t before, we should be after that schoolboy performance
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Post by salop81 on Jan 12, 2019 19:59:54 GMT 1
Brian Caldwell our super duper chief exc who everyone waxes lyrical about on here is to blame for the poor managerial recruitment..! Askey was a shocking appointment and the jury is very much out on Ricketts.. if he keeps us up with this group of players he would have done one hell of a job...(judging by his first 7 games though he’s not really made much of an impact and today’s game was the worst performance I’ve seen this season ) - concerned...yes... we are in a relegation scr@p without a doubt....
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Jan 12, 2019 20:08:19 GMT 1
You think you've got problems? We've gone from 'Disco Football' to not knowing where the next goal or win is coming from under 'Grandpa Chester'!
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Post by Coops on Jan 12, 2019 20:25:07 GMT 1
Totally agree, tink we may have got the wrong manager again... all over the place today. At least under askey our midfield looked half decent, its now looking a shambles along with the rest of the team. Cant see any positives since ricketts appointment, he's turned us from an average league 1 side to a bad league 1 side, very concerned now. Should have tried harder to get flynn or kept coyne in for a bit longer until we found someone who knows what he's doing... only positive with ricjetts is that he applauds the crowd at the end of a game, thats it im afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:53:25 GMT 1
Totally agree, tink we may have got the wrong manager again... all over the place today. At least under askey our midfield looked half decent, its now looking a shambles along with the rest of the team. Cant see any positives since ricketts appointment, he's turned us from an average league 1 side to a bad league 1 side, very concerned now. Should have tried harder to get flynn or kept coyne in for a bit longer until we found someone who knows what he's doing... only positive with ricjetts is that he applauds the crowd at the end of a game, thats it im afraid. can we loan him back to Wrexham till next season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 22:30:03 GMT 1
You think you've got problems? We've gone from 'Disco Football' to not knowing where the next goal or win is coming from under 'Grandpa Chester'! Football (unless you support City/Liverpool and class watching football as match of the day on Saturday night) not all it’s cracked up to be really is it? Not sure why we bother.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 12, 2019 22:49:46 GMT 1
Our team is going backwards at a rapid rate under Mr a Ricketts.
He says some of the players are in a fragile state, well he needs to sit block 14 with me..........it’s like suicide watch....
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Post by Dale on Jan 12, 2019 22:58:39 GMT 1
Our team is going backwards at a rapid rate under Mr a Ricketts. He says some of the players are in a fragile state, well he needs to sit block 14 with me..........it’s like suicide watch.... Do you sit near the back of block 14?
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Post by blueboy62 on Jan 12, 2019 23:33:53 GMT 1
Until today I thought talk of relegation was a bit over the top and we would soon be in mid-table and higher. Well I got that wrong. Today was a shocker and is the lowest point since the highs of the Coyne/Ramsey era. This is worse than Askey's reign. Nine players were poor today. If there was a plan then the players didn't understand it. No effort, no cohesion, no pace, no skill. Our second half collapse was alarming and it would have been 6:0 but for Arnold and Haynes was good. The best thing Rickets can do is to focus 100% on getting players in and hand over first team duties to Coyne and Ramsey. The press office can say he's gone down with the flu or mowing the lawn, who cares but something needs to change and quick!!!
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 12, 2019 23:37:27 GMT 1
Our team is going backwards at a rapid rate under Mr a Ricketts. He says some of the players are in a fragile state, well he needs to sit block 14 with me..........it’s like suicide watch.... Do you sit near the back of block 14? Yes normally
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