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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 26, 2018 18:57:36 GMT 1
Our new manger indicated in an interview with the Shropshire star that he wanted to thin down the squad which players would you send out on loan ?
so if we have some funds available and if we can find any decent players; do you think we need to strengthen the squad ? if so what positions needs strengthening ? any players you might have in mind to bring in ?
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Post by bellevuesalopian on Dec 26, 2018 19:07:16 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!)
Out Kennedy, loft, Coleman, colkett, gnouah, angol, ljl, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Morris and maybe Beckles
Loan Mcatee, Barnett, Shelis, Gregory, Hughes, rowlands
In Left back, centre back, midfielder, winger x2, striker x2, keeper, right back as he doesn’t seem to rate emanual
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 19:20:07 GMT 1
New keeper and a centre half with pace needed
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Post by tvor on Dec 26, 2018 19:30:00 GMT 1
I think the priorities are.
Another centre back to provide stiffer competition for Sadler and Waterfall, that should be a centre back with some experience and some pace.
If Huddersfield agree to end Coleman's loan early another goalkeeper. Personally I rate Coleman but Ricketts doesn't appear to and I'm not convinced by Arnold so again better competition is needed.
Based on his recent comments in the Star Ricketts clearly rates Haynes, but another option there would be sensible.
For some of those currently out on loan, e.g. Morris, Jones and Hendrie, it's difficult to second guess how Ricketts sees them. He hasn't been in a position to recall any of these players but may actually rate some of them.
Several of the contracted players have more than a year to run on their contracts so they will be difficult to move on unless their is firm interest from other clubs. Of those with one year to run the likes of Jules, Loft and Gnahoua would be obvious candidates to free up some budget plus possibly The Shop.
There are sometimes surprises in terms of those going out in January. For example James Bolton is in the final year of his contract.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Dec 26, 2018 19:31:08 GMT 1
New keeper and a centre half with pace needed I agree . In my opinion we need to sign a new centre half to partner Waterfall. Yes I like Sadler like the rest of us but I feel he’s lost his pace, and he isn’t the biggest or strongest so may be time to move him as our third choice CB. For what it’s worth I think Waterfall has come on a lot since singing and is our first choice CB now. We do urgently need a Striker and another CM ( on the basis Colkett & Loft aren’t going to feature much) .
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Post by tvor on Dec 26, 2018 19:32:42 GMT 1
The centre back discussions will be affected by how Ricketts sees Beckles as an option in that position.
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Post by block18shrew on Dec 26, 2018 19:38:47 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!) Out Kennedy, loft, Coleman, colkett, gnouah, angol, ljl, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Morris and maybe Beckles Loan Mcatee, Barnett, Shelis, Gregory, Hughes, rowlands In Left back, centre back, midfielder, winger x2, striker x2, keeper, right back as he doesn’t seem to rate emanual All this except.. If Morris is still interested in the club then bring him back and get him playing again as I feel Docherty will quite possibly be recalled. For me I think a new set of full backs and a new Striker is imperative, I also think that Beckles could still do a job at CB. Waterfall is useful against more physical outfits but wouldn’t be disappointed if SR replaced him in the window.
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Post by tvor on Dec 26, 2018 19:42:06 GMT 1
I think we're okay for wide players with Whalley, Gillead and Eisa, particularly given that we currently play a 4-4-2 diamond with no wide players in midfield.
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Post by wakemanender on Dec 26, 2018 20:03:09 GMT 1
Don't know if Toto is back in favour at Ipswich but if not any chance of getting him back on loan. We really miss his pace in the centre of defence. Maybe joined by Nolan or Edwards if Docherty is recalled by Rangers. Expensive options I know but if we can free up some wages from players going out on loan maybe a possibility.
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Post by JohnG on Dec 26, 2018 20:44:23 GMT 1
New keeper and a centre half with pace needed Definitely. Giving very poor goals away nearly every game now, and needs to be addressed as a priority. The rest will probably have to wait until the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 21:52:09 GMT 1
We need another big forward.
I agree about a centre-back. Waterfall just isn't up to this level.
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Post by northwestman on Dec 26, 2018 22:26:27 GMT 1
GK, LB, CH, 2Fs.
I'd agree with this - Out Kennedy, Loft, Coleman, Colkett, Gnahoua, Angol, LJL, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Beckles. I'd consider keeping Morris though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 22:27:16 GMT 1
Id like omar to be finally given a run at his proper centre half position.
We have also assembled a gargantuan squad with a number of duds. I expect any movement in will dependent of shifting more out.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 27, 2018 0:17:44 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!) Out Kennedy, loft, Coleman, colkett, gnouah, angol, ljl, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Morris and maybe Beckles We really are carrying some proper dead wood aren't we?
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Post by salop27 on Dec 27, 2018 0:31:39 GMT 1
We need a central defender with L1 experience and pace. That's like saying we need a 20 goal a season striker. A lot easier said then done!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 27, 2018 10:04:01 GMT 1
Ricketts has said he wonts to thin down the squad but is this case of the chicken and the egg, so are new players dependent on funds been made available from releasing players / sending them out on loan or will he be given some money ? then are the players with the right qualities available ,if we get past all of that for me the defence has been a problem all season
whoever we sign town badly need to be more consistent
we were spoilt last season but both our keepers have cost us points and are not good enough; so a keeper . we have three right backs four centre backs and one left back so for me it is a left back back
midfield if Docherty returns then an attacking midfielder
Ferjiri can score goals but tactically Town continue to send in the high balls which he must find frustrating, Rickets rates Holloway and bizarrely Lewis gets the nod in front of Angol ,who knows what is going on there but we cant afford to continue with this as injury to the starting two and we face having lewis leading the charge , so another forward.
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Post by tvor on Dec 27, 2018 11:06:14 GMT 1
The current squad size probably means there is very little room to bring many in without first freeing up wages by moving some out. I suspect we must be towards the upper reaches of the wage cap at the moment.
There was £600,000 invested in the summer. I'm sure Ricketts will have been given some room to make changes in January, a new manager is nearly always afforded this, but I can't see the club making any substantial investments in January more likely just a few tweaks, like loanees out and new loanees in.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 27, 2018 12:07:42 GMT 1
Well I guess it goes without saying that we need and should be looking to improve all over the park, we are where we are in the league for a reason. I guess priority would depend on whether Docherty heads back north. Other than that then we need more options up top. A tad disappointing to be saying that considering we seem to have spent a bit looking to address that already but here we are again, we're still looking for a forward. Happy to stick with Haynes at left back, he looks decent enough for me. Would like to see another central defender come in. A new keeper. What we'll get though? We have already spent a fair bit (for us) already this off season. Is there anything more to come from the chairman? Can we shift any of the deadwood. Can we, for example, move Angol on. Will we have to take a loss if we do.
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Post by northwestman on Dec 27, 2018 12:20:22 GMT 1
The trouble with January (as PH found out last year) is that there isn't too much about. It's fair to say that not 1 of his signings in that month made much of an impression.
Loan signings are probably the best route to take. Send back Coleman and Colkett and bring in 3 new ones.
Kennedy, Loft, Gnahoua, LJL, Jules, Morris and Eisa all are in the last year of their contracts. Plus Sears, Hughes, Barnett and McAtee. Amazingly, PH gave Jones a 2 and a half year contract so we'll have problems offloading him. But clearly some of these could be removed from the payroll, either on loan or paid off.
I'd at least keep Morris and Eisa, but both might want to move on anyway.
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Dec 27, 2018 12:59:01 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!) Out Kennedy, l Kennedy out?!? He should be in the team...
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 27, 2018 13:03:31 GMT 1
Well I guess it goes without saying that we need and should be looking to improve all over the park, we are where we are in the league for a reason. I guess priority would depend on whether Docherty heads back north. Other than that then we need more options up top. A tad disappointing to be saying that considering we seem to have spent a bit looking to address that already but here we are again, we're still looking for a forward. Happy to stick with Haynes at left back, he looks decent enough for me. Would like to see another central defender come in. A new keeper. What we'll get though? We have already spent a fair bit (for us) already this off season. Is there anything more to come from the chairman? Can we shift any of the deadwood. Can we, for example, move Angol on. Will we have to take a loss if we do. at the moment Haynes is our only left back , for whatever reason Beckles has struggled all season but to be fair he is a centre back. Haynes gets injured and we are back to Beckles. so for me a keeper, a left back and a forward are the top priorities
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Post by edgmond on Dec 27, 2018 13:25:32 GMT 1
The trouble with January (as PH found out last year) is that there isn't too much about. It's fair to say that not 1 of his signings in that month made much of an impression. Loan signings are probably the best route to take. Send back Coleman and Colkett and bring in 3 new ones. Kennedy, Loft, Gnahoua, LJL, Jules, Morris and Eisa all are in the last year of their contracts. Plus Sears, Hughes, Barnett and McAtee. Amazingly, PH gave Jones a 2 and a half year contract so we'll have problems offloading him. But clearly some of these could be removed from the payroll, either on loan or paid off. I'd at least keep Morris and Eisa, but both might want to move on anyway. However, he did sign Nsiala and Rodman the previous January, both key players last season. There might be a gem out there. It will be an interesting test of Ricketts's contacts (something which was generally a strength with PH). Also, do we not get the Ryan Woods sell on money when he signs permanently for Stoke in January? Some of that may be available. I would agree though that the priority is to get rid of dead wood if we can. The best of the current squad with a couple of additions, probably on loan, is good enough to keep us in mid table.
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Post by Matster on Dec 27, 2018 14:49:12 GMT 1
The centre back discussions will be affected by how Ricketts sees Beckles as an option in that position. No manager seems interested in Beckles at CB though, there must be some reason behind that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 16:22:51 GMT 1
Would expect lots of comings & goings in January. Hopefully follow the Hurst ethos of starting from the back & building a spine, a new keeper, a pacey centre half and then someone up front with a half decent pedigree at this level. Easier said than done I know.
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Post by percy on Dec 27, 2018 16:24:30 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!) Out Kennedy, loft, Coleman, colkett, gnouah, angol, ljl, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Morris and maybe Beckles Loan Mcatee, Barnett, Shelis, Gregory, Hughes, rowlands In Left back, centre back, midfielder, winger x2, striker x2, keeper, right back as he doesn’t seem to rate emanual Would be amazed if we see anything near that amount of activity although it is clear that the squad is far too big and it is not one that I enjoyed getting when I started my first go at my Christmas present - Football Manager. Personally I think the best bit of business would be getting an extension on the contracts of Grant and Bolton. I think we need a loan keeper to replace Coleman who was disappointing from the off. Haynes and Bolton as full backs is fine for me. We have cover in Beckles and Sears (assuming Ipswich are selling Emmanuel). I think we need to do something about the centre half position. Sadler still looks comfortable and reads the game well but he needs to be supported by someone with pace - Waterfall has no pace and is too inconsistent for me (he is possibly a replacement for Sadler not a partner for him). Don't know if this could be done by Kennedy or Beckles. I doubt that Docherty will be recalled so I imagine that the midfield will stay the same although Edwards coming in to replace Laurent would be interesting. Up front we need a partner for Okenabehrie; although on paper Angol should be fine for that.
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Post by davycrockett on Dec 27, 2018 16:31:35 GMT 1
Funny that when DC and co took charge and we were on a 5 wins out of 6 run most folk were saying this year’s team was stronger than last year and we were only a left back away from a great team... 4 games into Ricketts reign (1 win 1 draw and 2 losses) we need to replace most of the team according to most...
Whats changed?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 27, 2018 16:32:38 GMT 1
In an ideal world (if Ricketts won the lottery!) Out Kennedy, loft, Coleman, colkett, gnouah, angol, ljl, Hendrie, Jules, Jones, Morris and maybe Beckles Loan Mcatee, Barnett, Shelis, Gregory, Hughes, rowlands In Left back, centre back, midfielder, winger x2, striker x2, keeper, right back as he doesn’t seem to rate emanual Would be amazed if we see anything near that amount of activity although it is clear that the squad is far too big and it is not one that I enjoyed getting when I started my first go at my Christmas present - Football Manager. Personally I think the best bit of business would be getting an extension on the contracts of Grant and Bolton. I think we need a loan keeper to replace Coleman who was disappointing from the off. Haynes and Bolton as full backs is fine for me. We have cover in Beckles and Sears (assuming Ipswich are selling Emmanuel). I think we need to do something about the centre half position. Sadler still looks comfortable and reads the game well but he needs to be supported by someone with pace - Waterfall has no pace and is too inconsistent for me (he is possibly a replacement for Sadler not a partner for him). Don't know if this could be done by Kennedy or Beckles. I doubt that Docherty will be recalled so I imagine that the midfield will stay the same although Edwards coming in to replace Laurent would be interesting. Up front we need a partner for Okenabehrie; although on paper Angol should be fine for that. i have seen kennedy play in a number of reserve games and whilst he also does not have pace, he reads the game well does the sensible thing and keeps it simple.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 16:35:22 GMT 1
Funny that when DC and co took charge and we were on a 5 wins out of 6 run most folk were saying this year’s team was stronger than last year and we were only a left back away from a great team... 4 games into Ricketts reign (1 win 1 draw and 2 losses) we need to replace most of the team according to most... Whats changed? I remember one poster saying we are a top 10 team (and is still persisting with that). I don't remember most people saying we were one player off a great team.
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Post by Exkeeper on Dec 27, 2018 17:48:38 GMT 1
The centre back discussions will be affected by how Ricketts sees Beckles as an option in that position. No manager seems interested in Beckles at CB though, there must be some reason behind that. There is. He is not good enough. Too laid back, makes poor decisions and has at least one mistake per game in him. An Accy fan confirmed that view yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 18:00:03 GMT 1
Reliably informed last Saturday that the following will be departing and no real surprises:-
Coleman Emmanuel Kennedy Jones Gnahoua Morris Loft Colkett Jules Morris Hendrie
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