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Post by Dale on Jan 15, 2017 14:56:38 GMT 1
What happened?
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Post by Dancin on Jan 16, 2017 13:56:27 GMT 1
There was a closer one at the back of the South Stand when a car that had been in a Disabled bay started moving away at quite a speed not long after the final whistle had been blown.
To be fair someone started to walk in front of them to slow them down.
Couldn't see the number plate or pass number, because of the number of fans, but if I had I'd of taken it and reported it to the club.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 16, 2017 14:33:09 GMT 1
Its always seemed dangerous to me that although rightly stewards hold cars up at the gates until pedestrians are clear no one controls the rush to get pole position in the queues?
The rule should be drivers must not start their engines ( or move ) until 15 mins from the final whistle. Some disgusting behaviour from drivers trying to get away a few mins early with the driver of the double decker supporter coach being the worst culprit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:00:25 GMT 1
Cyclists are just as bad there have been a few close calls with them.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 16, 2017 17:14:58 GMT 1
Its always seemed dangerous to me that although rightly stewards hold cars up at the gates until pedestrians are clear no one controls the rush to get pole position in the queues? The rule should be drivers must not start their engines ( or move ) until 15 mins from the final whistle. Some disgusting behaviour from drivers trying to get away a few mins early with the driver of the double decker supporter coach being the worst culprit! Yes I've raised the issue a few times and never had an answer back on why cars are allowed to move after the games end and the potential clashes with pedestrians. Only a matter of time before there is a bad accident and all preventable with some better rules in place
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Post by Dancin on Jan 16, 2017 17:18:26 GMT 1
Its always seemed dangerous to me that although rightly stewards hold cars up at the gates until pedestrians are clear no one controls the rush to get pole position in the queues? The rule should be drivers must not start their engines ( or move ) until 15 mins from the final whistle. Some disgusting behaviour from drivers trying to get away a few mins early with the driver of the double decker supporter coach being the worst culprit! One for the Supporters Parliament to take up with Brain next time they meet?
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Post by Dancin on Jan 16, 2017 17:19:21 GMT 1
Is Laptop still at the club, he'd sort them out!
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 16, 2017 17:20:31 GMT 1
Its always seemed dangerous to me that although rightly stewards hold cars up at the gates until pedestrians are clear no one controls the rush to get pole position in the queues? The rule should be drivers must not start their engines ( or move ) until 15 mins from the final whistle. Some disgusting behaviour from drivers trying to get away a few mins early with the driver of the double decker supporter coach being the worst culprit! Yes I've raised the issue a few times and never had an answer back on why cars are allowed to move after the games end and the potential clashes with pedestrians. Only a matter of time before there is a bad accident and all preventable with some better rules in place Perhaps the same reason we couldn't sell empty spaces as planned this year? Influential people who know RW and travel by car and want a quick get away.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 16, 2017 17:22:19 GMT 1
Is Laptop still at the club, he'd sort them out! alan.roberts@shrewsburytown.com
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 16, 2017 17:30:17 GMT 1
It works both ways though.
There are footpaths, pavements and crossings.
But pedestrians insist on walking on the roads and skipping in and out of traffic.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 16, 2017 18:11:40 GMT 1
It works both ways though. There are footpaths, pavements and crossings. But pedestrians insist on walking on the roads and skipping in and out of traffic. Don't think you'll find any of these between the stadium and exit gates and certainly not between the stadium and the parking spaces drivers have to walk across the car park to get to their cars. If the drivers have the same interpretations of who's right if way it is on a private car park perhaps that's the problem? Im not getting at careful drivers but those that rush back to their car and make a headline for the front of the queue by the gates at the same time as thousands of pedestrians.
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Post by chef on Jan 16, 2017 18:58:50 GMT 1
Had a lift with someone who parks at the ground once, do people leave their brains at home? People were just walking out in front of him without so much as a look. There is a pathway that has been painted on one of the central lines of parking, if people actually used it it would be helpful to the poor drivers. I'm sure there are plenty of idiots in cars too to counterbalance foolish pedestrians. The worst bit of using the car park is that people who were smiling at each other minutes ago turn into miserable, selfish gits when it comes to letting each other out. Luckily there are still some good natured people about who have some manners.
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Post by laptop on Jan 16, 2017 20:34:08 GMT 1
Some interesting points on here as always.In my opinion, people, whether it be drivers or pedestrians will always seek to get from A to B the quickest way and if that involves walking between cars, or cars driving through empty spaces to gain an extra 20 seconds then they'll do it. Not sure what the answer is, We've tried previously to put something out reminding car drivers to give pedestrians precedence and for pedestrians to use the walkways where possible, so we may need to do this again. With regard to stopping cars moving until the pedestrians have gone would be almost impossible, you'd almost need someone stood in front of every car to do this and I still need the stadium stewards in place until its empty. We come back to personal responsibility and car drivers just being a little patient and not doing a recreation of a Le Mans start. Stay in your cars and listen to Stu on the radio. Some drivers have been spoken to and will continue to be so if they can't drive with some consideration for others using the car park
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Post by jamo on Jan 16, 2017 21:04:59 GMT 1
Why does the club not keep the double gates at the main entrance/ exit closed for a timed duration at the end of the game? There is pedestrian exits on either side of these gates to allow for those on foot to leave the stadium via that route.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 21:08:27 GMT 1
Why does the club not keep the double gates at the main entrance/ exit closed for a timed duration at the end of the game? There is pedestrian exits on either side of these gates to allow for those on foot to leave the stadium via that route. But that would be common sense,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by laptop on Jan 16, 2017 22:01:29 GMT 1
Why does the club not keep the double gates at the main entrance/ exit closed for a timed duration at the end of the game? There is pedestrian exits on either side of these gates to allow for those on foot to leave the stadium via that route. Interesting point but you'd still get vehicles moving within the car park initially jostling for position when the pedestrians are also moving through the car park. Something to think about and I'll see if my common sense is still operational Personally I think it goes back to people having consideration for others using the car park
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Post by essofsteel on Jan 16, 2017 22:21:19 GMT 1
It's always baffled me why pedestrians & vehicles are obliged to use the same exit.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jan 16, 2017 22:27:24 GMT 1
I suppose they could put cones down every exit that cars use, and only remove them when the pedestrians and coaches have left.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 16, 2017 23:06:04 GMT 1
Always find it slightly jarring that one of the reasons given for leaving Gay Meadow was that the single access meant potential clashes between pedestrians and traffic in the narrows
New ground and chance to review things and we end up with a car park and pedestrians all sharing access to one reasonably narrow exit point. It's almost like no one thought through the ground move
Perhaps with better facilities at the ground there wouldn't be the mad rush for drivers and pedestrians to leave the ground 2 minutes after the match finishes
Still if a few people get run over we'll get accused of moaning and negativity, so please try and get run over quietly and with no fuss
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Post by shrewsace on Jan 16, 2017 23:39:00 GMT 1
Some interesting points on here as always.In my opinion, people, whether it be drivers or pedestrians will always seek to get from A to B the quickest way and if that involves walking between cars, or cars driving through empty spaces to gain an extra 20 seconds then they'll do it. Not sure what the answer is, We've tried previously to put something out reminding car drivers to give pedestrians precedence and for pedestrians to use the walkways where possible, so we may need to do this again. With regard to stopping cars moving until the pedestrians have gone would be almost impossible, you'd almost need someone stood in front of every car to do this and I still need the stadium stewards in place until its empty. We come back to personal responsibility and car drivers just being a little patient and not doing a recreation of a Le Mans start. Stay in your cars and listen to Stu on the radio. Some drivers have been spoken to and will continue to be so if they can't drive with some consideration for others using the car park What happens to drivers who continually have to be spoken to? Can their permits be revoked or bans be imposed?
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 17, 2017 0:52:32 GMT 1
I think accidents caused by people dodging between cars are less likely to happen in early season and again after the end of March when people leave the ground in daylight. In winter and for night games, fans are leaving in darkness. Car headlights are fine for picking out what is coming towards you from the front, but not so, when people are alongside and then suddenly appear in front of you at the last minute, more often than not, wearing dark clothing.
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