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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 18:56:06 GMT 1
Terrible, left when the third went in it was that bad.
We need a stable consistent formation, McAlinden must be wondering how he doesn't get in the team with our strikers playing like this.
Lawrence looked completely out of his depth and on the occasions he lost the ball he stood around and sulked instead of trying to retrieve the situation. A great example to set.
Coventry looked decent and Armstrong shouldn't be playing at this level, but we were easy prey for them today.
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Oct 3, 2015 19:04:49 GMT 1
In my opinion i thought that the town were absolutely shocking today and i hope that mickey has them in for extra training tomorrow.
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Post by clive on Oct 3, 2015 19:15:46 GMT 1
Just looking at match stats can't be right it says we had 6 shots 2 on target anyone there will know it was 80 mins for our first shot which we all stood and cheered for I think there was one miss hit cross come shot after that
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Post by victorsboots on Oct 3, 2015 19:16:37 GMT 1
Ellis out. Grandison in. Dear dear. Them full backs need reconsideration. Long struggle ahead. Let's hope we can survive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 19:37:06 GMT 1
Just goes to show how two people watching the same match can have such differing views. I thought Lawrence was our best player . Always looking for the ball , trying to get us playing , working hard . Completely out of his depth, I don't think so.
We are very poor defensively , Sadler unfortunately just hasn't got it , he looks f.cked in the warm up and keeps on getting the wrong side of his opponent which is disasterous considering he hasn't got any pace . Why was Ellis left out?
Our forwards aren't good enough , very ponderous . Collins has the turning circle of a tanker and Barnet lumbers about like an Ox . We have no real wide attacking players with pace and flair. Why not give Whalley a chance .
I am seriously concerned now than I have been all season . I think we may survive , just ,but we were poor today . What really f.cked me off was the fact that we were 1-0 down with a minute to play in the first half . I would have settled for that at half time but no, we get caught out and Sadler gives away a penalty when their player comes inside him quickly . He can't move his feet quick enough to adjust and the player goes down. The referee doesn't have a decision to make and we were lucky not to concede two penalties both on our left hand side earlier on . 2-0 half time , hard to get back into the game , caught out again on Tootles side, bang 3-0 game over. I am greatly annoyed by our performance . In League 2 we would get away with it but not in this league We need a left back and some quick forwards who are not afraid to shoot .
Rant over , we are s**te . All I need now is to suffer England losing to the bloody convicts and my Saturday is complete.
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Post by twentysix on Oct 3, 2015 19:47:51 GMT 1
"We have no flair in wide attacking positions" You sure about that ? Or is it a case that the personnel available arent being used a/ properly b/ at all ?
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Post by northwestman on Oct 3, 2015 19:53:33 GMT 1
"We have no flair in wide attacking positions" You sure about that ? Or is it a case that the personnel available arent being used a/ properly b/ at all ? Well, it would seem that Whalley has upset someone. Everyone has been saying he needs to be given a chance. Yet Brown, who few seem to enthuse about, has been given far more opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 19:54:00 GMT 1
"We have no flair in wide attacking positions" You sure about that ? Or is it a case that the personnel available arent being used a/ properly b/ at all ? Right on both counts twentysix I'm afraid.
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Post by callum on Oct 3, 2015 21:24:56 GMT 1
Just goes to show how two people watching the same match can have such differing views. I thought Lawrence was our best player . Always looking for the ball , trying to get us playing , working hard . Completely out of his depth, I don't think so. We are very poor defensively , Sadler unfortunately just hasn't got it , he looks f.cked in the warm up and keeps on getting the wrong side of his opponent which is disasterous considering he hasn't got any pace . Why was Ellis left out? Our forwards aren't good enough , very ponderous . Collins has the turning circle of a tanker and Barnet lumbers about like an Ox . We have no real wide attacking players with pace and flair. Why not give Whalley a chance . I am seriously concerned now than I have been all season . I think we may survive , just ,but we were poor today . What really f.cked me off was the fact that we were 1-0 down with a minute to play in the first half . I would have settled for that at half time but no, we get caught out and Sadler gives away a penalty when their player comes inside him quickly . He can't move his feet quick enough to adjust and the player goes down. The referee doesn't have a decision to make and we were lucky not to concede two penalties both on our left hand side earlier on . 2-0 half time , hard to get back into the game , caught out again on Tootles side, bang 3-0 game over. I am greatly annoyed by our performance . In League 2 we would get away with it but not in this league We need a left back and some quick forwards who are not afraid to shoot . Rant over , we are s**** . All I need now is to suffer England losing to the bloody convicts and my Saturday is complete. I agree regarding Lawrence, thought he was pretty good, also came over at the end to apologise for the performance.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 3, 2015 23:34:09 GMT 1
NPK was wrestling their 32 for so long it's surprising he was mistaken for Sadler. Definite pen which was coming after 3 strong shouts.
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 4, 2015 6:01:19 GMT 1
Just noticed that Whalley wasn't even on the bench yesterday. I just can't understand that when you are losing badly you only put on one sub.
It's either running up the white flag or an admission that there is nobody on the bench you think is good enough to change things. So much for having "a squad of first team players."
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 4, 2015 7:55:43 GMT 1
some great over reactions on here! two s**t teams, their number 9 ran the show and was the difference. we lost a game that we was predicted to lose, get over it and on to the next one
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 4, 2015 7:55:57 GMT 1
some great over reactions on here! two s**t teams, their number 9 ran the show and was the difference. we lost a game that we was predicted to lose, get over it and on to the next one
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Post by northwestman on Oct 4, 2015 8:16:33 GMT 1
some great over reactions on here! two s**t teams, their number 9 ran the show and was the difference. we lost a game that we was predicted to lose, get over it and on to the next one If your analysis of the state of our team is correct ( and at the moment I'm not arguing with you) then I think we need to do slightly more than 'get over it and on to the next one.' There are serious issues to be addressed, not the least of which is team selection.
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 4, 2015 9:07:22 GMT 1
some great over reactions on here! two s**t teams, their number 9 ran the show and was the difference. we lost a game that we was predicted to lose, get over it and on to the next one Yeh we ship 6 goals in two games nothing to worry about... onwards and upwards
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 4, 2015 9:40:08 GMT 1
im not saying everything is fine, obviously we are not performing to the best of our ability. we have got good players, Yes Mellon is struggling to find his best team and tactics but I have faith in him.
The goal is to stay up which I am confident we will do, which is why I refuse to get to down in the dumps about losing 2 games away from home against decent teams in this division.
people will look at bury, Burton and Southend and this why are they doing better than us which is why I believe people are being so over dramatic. We had to sell our 2 best players for the long term future of the club so it will take time to readjust.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 4, 2015 11:30:31 GMT 1
In my opinion i thought that the town were absolutely shocking today and i hope that mickey has them in for extra training tomorrow. He had them in at 10 o clock today, and told them they'd stay there until some Juan scored.........they're still there.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Oct 4, 2015 11:44:23 GMT 1
I couldn't understand the line-up we had yesterday, and what's frightening, is the players didn't either. I think it's called the "let's huddle together in the middle of the pitch" formation. Why are we playing so narrow?
I can stand being out-played, but I can't stand being out-worked. Powder puff tackling, dreadful passing and poor marking. Where the hell was Halstead diving to for the 3rd? As long as the ball was on target, it was a goal.
I also gave Lawrence the MOTM. At least he was trying.
I left the ground feeling embarrassed. It was a pathetic performance.
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 4, 2015 15:55:25 GMT 1
I couldn't understand the line-up we had yesterday, and what's frightening, is the players didn't either. I think it's called the "let's huddle together in the middle of the pitch" formation. Why are we playing so narrow?
Couldn't agree more. Having no width nullified the pace and threat of Kaikai and JLAA throughout and our striker simply isn't the type to make runs off the shoulder needed with everyone in behind him, as you say, 'In a huddle'. Mellon didn't see fit to change it, either. Excruciating.
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Post by pkd on Oct 4, 2015 16:40:08 GMT 1
As has been previously stated, it's difficult to understand why, having used a formation & tactics that got us wins in our previous 2 away games, MM tosses it all aside for the next two.
Would a 5-3-2 have made a difference at Rochdale? I think, almost certainly, yes. We would've been far less exposed to those counter attacks in the first 15 minutes.
Would it have made a difference yesterday? Well, we might have lost 2-0 rather than 3-0. Certainly greater defensive numbers would have made it more difficult for the nippy little Armstrong to get so much space, even though he would still have made those defenders look like Matt Redmile...
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Post by pkd on Oct 4, 2015 16:40:45 GMT 1
Incidentally Adam Armstrong is only 18. A very promising youngster, he reminded me of a young Michael Owen, or even Luke Rodgers. Hopefully he won't be prone to the injuries which deprived those two of their blistering pace.
Good left foot on him too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 16:41:25 GMT 1
Thought JLAA looked tired yesterday to be honest . I would like our players to have a shot at goal now and again . You know, just to work the keeper if nothing else . We seem to be looking to walk the ball into the net . As they say, if you don't shoot you don't score . Oh well , it's all over and done with now but it's not just the losing bit that gets to me , it's the manner in which we lose that grates because I know we are much better than that .
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Post by pkd on Oct 4, 2015 16:45:08 GMT 1
Maybe all the players were tired. They probably expended a lot of effort trying to get back in the game on Tuesday.
Coventry, on the other hand, did not play midweek.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 16:57:56 GMT 1
Maybe all the players were tired. They probably expended a lot of effort trying to get back in the game on Tuesday. Coventry, on the other hand, did not play midweek. On that basis we should be fully refreshed then for Saturday because we didn't play yesterday .
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Post by pkd on Oct 4, 2015 17:10:24 GMT 1
Fleetwood on Tuesday!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 21:53:02 GMT 1
Ahh, that's in the p**s poor paint trophy if I'm not mistaken . You watch, we will probably play like bloody heroes on Tuesday and win 26-0 . Unless , of course , Sadler decides to even things up and brings players down in the box, in which case we will loose 27-26 .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 23:17:17 GMT 1
Really poor yesterday. Micky always says that he picks a team and formation that will win a game, but to me so far this season he keeps a formation that wins a game, for the next one, regardless of whether it's home or away. Contradicts himself.
Armstrong a class above anything else on the pitch yesterday, but helped by Grandison with shocking defending yet again. He doesn't deserve a place in the 11 at the moment for me. Players like Kaikai are a luxury away from home and that's something we can't afford to have. Lawrence been poor all season so far, off the pace. Agogo puts the effort in at least but missed some tackles which led to goals yesterday.
As for Sadler....:.appalling so far. Slow, ponderous, gives the ball away, always wrong side of player and then brings them down. How on earth Micky thinks he's better than Demetriou I do not know. With no other left back at the club he has no one putting any pressure on him either.
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 5, 2015 5:32:42 GMT 1
I'm beginning to think the management team is trying to be too clever by half with the constant chopping and changing.
It's confusing the players and not accomplishing the goal of getting results. Let's pick what we think is our best 11, decide on a system and see how it goes. Micky, I think you have got it in you to be a good manager at this level but you are not Pep Guardiola.
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Post by northwestman on Oct 5, 2015 8:18:20 GMT 1
I'm just wondering how much input to incoming transfers, team selection and tactics is down to MJ, who more or less avoids any criticism on here.
For example, I wonder whose idea it was to bring Sadler back. And how much input MJ had to changing 3 at the back to a flat back 4.
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Post by ipswichshrews on Oct 5, 2015 10:47:18 GMT 1
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