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Post by sussexshrew on Sept 14, 2015 0:43:17 GMT 1
But I think that O'Brien should draw himself back slightly, and when he has interviewees squirming, allow them a little more rope to finish the job themselves.
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Post by camdenshrew on Sept 14, 2015 4:37:01 GMT 1
I agree. He was treating it more like one of his radio interviews. He kept giving both the Saudi officer and Dan Krapzczinski the bolthole that they needed because they could claim he was interrupting them all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 6:56:02 GMT 1
He was supposed to meet with me and some other volunteers to see the work we do around disability. He failed to show at the appointed time. No email, no phone call, no explanation, no apology. Class act. But I still think he's been quite a good MP. That's totally and utterly subjective of course. I know people who are way, way, better informed than me who would disagree.
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Post by percy on Sept 14, 2015 7:55:19 GMT 1
Really rather funny - Kawczynski really descends from being simply an out-played smug git of a politician into being a real at the end of the interview.
The guy is simply not pleasant and certainly not bright - I got that from a 5 minute conversation with him (when he was supposed to be campaigning and winning votes - I challenged him on policy regarding the economy and he said he didn´t need to try and convince people like me (and I´m still not sure what he meant by that)) and the posts above giving personal annecdotes about him seem to ram it home.
I agree that he is better than Conway though !
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Post by Bilbo on Sept 14, 2015 12:55:18 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP. Certainly the most accessible / involved. Whether he's a moron, or stupid, or whatever, is up to the individual to decide. I'd rather he was clued up about the north west relief road than Saudi Foreign policy unless he's actually a minister. That's not to say I support him, or what he stands for, or his party, but I still think he's alright as a local MP. Dave over the many years of B&A I have pretty much agreed with everything you have written, except for the above comments. DK is really a truly horrible man and I will explain why. You have met my son James and you know how profound his disabilities are. I had a phone call off him last year with regards to the Bedroom Tax, I explained to him that I think it was unjust that we should have to pay this vile tax because our house is fully adapted to suit our needs. This includes overhead hoist through out the downstair, a bath that raises, an electric toilet that bidets him, ramp to the door and extension built downstairs for him. This has costs thousands of pounds and if we did move all this would have to be replaced or transferred at a massive cost. His reply was "Someone has to pay the off the deficit" So I pushed him further and said we are virtually trapped as there is no smaller premises for us to move to and also the cost to the council to replace the equiptment. All he could say was the same line over and over again. The guy is clueless and to be honest one of the most arrogant person I have had the displeasure to meet. Then to my utter shock come election time he makes a statement to the press that some parts of the Bedroom Tax are unfair, trust me prior to the election he had nothing but praise for the damn thing. There is nothing nice about the man except for his tailored suits.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 14, 2015 15:56:23 GMT 1
Everyone will have their own experiences and I completely respect them. That story about James is shocking.
I guess my bar for what a local MP can be was incredibly low.
Danny K is a good supporter of projects I have been involved with and shows a genuine interest ongoing.
I personally think he was spot on about not moving the sixth form too, and the move to split sites including the Wakeman bears that out.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 14, 2015 16:06:26 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP. Certainly the most accessible / involved. Whether he's a moron, or stupid, or whatever, is up to the individual to decide. I'd rather he was clued up about the north west relief road than Saudi Foreign policy unless he's actually a minister. That's not to say I support him, or what he stands for, or his party, but I still think he's alright as a local MP. Dave over the many years of B&A I have pretty much agreed with everything you have written, except for the above comments. DK is really a truly horrible man and I will explain why. You have met my son James and you know how profound his disabilities are. I had a phone call off him last year with regards to the Bedroom Tax, I explained to him that I think it was unjust that we should have to pay this vile tax because our house is fully adapted to suit our needs. This includes overhead hoist through out the downstair, a bath that raises, an electric toilet that bidets him, ramp to the door and extension built downstairs for him. This has costs thousands of pounds and if we did move all this would have to be replaced or transferred at a massive cost. His reply was "Someone has to pay the off the deficit" So I pushed him further and said we are virtually trapped as there is no smaller premises for us to move to and also the cost to the council to replace the equiptment. All he could say was the same line over and over again. The guy is clueless and to be honest one of the most arrogant person I have had the displeasure to meet. Then to my utter shock come election time he makes a statement to the press that some parts of the Bedroom Tax are unfair, trust me prior to the election he had nothing but praise for the damn thing. There is nothing nice about the man except for his tailored suits. That is a disgraceful response from your MP and illustrates quite vividly what is wrong with this Government - they don't think through their actions and worse stlll they don't care. Yes someone has to pay off the deficit but it shouldn't be people in the position of your family.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Sept 14, 2015 16:55:30 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP. Certainly the most accessible / involved. Whether he's a moron, or stupid, or whatever, is up to the individual to decide. I'd rather he was clued up about the north west relief road than Saudi Foreign policy unless he's actually a minister. That's not to say I support him, or what he stands for, or his party, but I still think he's alright as a local MP. Dave over the many years of B&A I have pretty much agreed with everything you have written, except for the above comments. DK is really a truly horrible man and I will explain why. You have met my son James and you know how profound his disabilities are. I had a phone call off him last year with regards to the Bedroom Tax, I explained to him that I think it was unjust that we should have to pay this vile tax because our house is fully adapted to suit our needs. This includes overhead hoist through out the downstair, a bath that raises, an electric toilet that bidets him, ramp to the door and extension built downstairs for him. This has costs thousands of pounds and if we did move all this would have to be replaced or transferred at a massive cost. His reply was "Someone has to pay the off the deficit" So I pushed him further and said we are virtually trapped as there is no smaller premises for us to move to and also the cost to the council to replace the equiptment. All he could say was the same line over and over again. The guy is clueless and to be honest one of the most arrogant person I have had the displeasure to meet. Then to my utter shock come election time he makes a statement to the press that some parts of the Bedroom Tax are unfair, trust me prior to the election he had nothing but praise for the damn thing. There is nothing nice about the man except for his tailored suits. Shockingly callous and stupid. In a representative democracy an MP should be supporting the interests of his constituents, not parroting the party line regardless.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 14, 2015 17:14:37 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP. Certainly the most accessible / involved. Whether he's a moron, or stupid, or whatever, is up to the individual to decide. I'd rather he was clued up about the north west relief road than Saudi Foreign policy unless he's actually a minister. That's not to say I support him, or what he stands for, or his party, but I still think he's alright as a local MP. Dave over the many years of B&A I have pretty much agreed with everything you have written, except for the above comments. DK is really a truly horrible man and I will explain why. You have met my son James and you know how profound his disabilities are. I had a phone call off him last year with regards to the Bedroom Tax, I explained to him that I think it was unjust that we should have to pay this vile tax because our house is fully adapted to suit our needs. This includes overhead hoist through out the downstair, a bath that raises, an electric toilet that bidets him, ramp to the door and extension built downstairs for him. This has costs thousands of pounds and if we did move all this would have to be replaced or transferred at a massive cost. His reply was "Someone has to pay the off the deficit" So I pushed him further and said we are virtually trapped as there is no smaller premises for us to move to and also the cost to the council to replace the equiptment. All he could say was the same line over and over again. The guy is clueless and to be honest one of the most arrogant person I have had the displeasure to meet. Then to my utter shock come election time he makes a statement to the press that some parts of the Bedroom Tax are unfair, trust me prior to the election he had nothing but praise for the damn thing. There is nothing nice about the man except for his tailored suits. Why the surprise Dave he's a Tory and they only look after their own..... Catchup soon Andy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 18:09:14 GMT 1
Stories like Bilbo's leave me speechless.
A lady I volunteered with wrote a letter to Owen Patterson regarding her profoundly disabled daughters transition from child services to adult services. I can't go into details, but the reply was the same from him, austerity.
At a local and national level I've been privileged and humbled to meet many parent carers who somehow continue to battle against this type of attitude from local authorities and some local MPs.
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Post by roberto02afcct on Sept 18, 2015 14:10:28 GMT 1
Finally got around to watching this on my lunch hour and owwww did I chuckle at how arrogant Kawczynski, good to know he has not changed as everytime I have had the misfortune to meet him he has always talked down to me in a "you are s**t on the bottom of my boot" style. Interesting to see him being outdone with ease, time for a change at the next election owwww wait the muppets here voted him back in. DAMN IT!!!!
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Post by theshrews81 on Sept 20, 2015 8:31:11 GMT 1
I got offered over email an auction prize from him for a fundraising event for Severn Hospice. Only to receive another email a few days later saying actually I do enough for this charity so apologies I won't donate it!!
It says a lot about a person when that happens!
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 20, 2015 8:41:11 GMT 1
I got offered over email an auction prize from him for a fundraising event for Severn Hospice. Only to receive another email a few days later saying actually I do enough for this charity so apologies I won't donate it!! It says a lot about a person when that happens! I would list the prize for the auction and put (withdrawn by donor) next to it
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Post by theshrews81 on Sept 20, 2015 9:06:15 GMT 1
I got offered over email an auction prize from him for a fundraising event for Severn Hospice. Only to receive another email a few days later saying actually I do enough for this charity so apologies I won't donate it!! It says a lot about a person when that happens! I would list the prize for the auction and put (withdrawn by donor) next to it I was so tempted but luckily when I spoke to my local MP he was shocked so donated a similar prize himself and a cash donation. It was in the build up to election though so after votes hehe.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 20, 2015 9:41:15 GMT 1
Yet another terrible example of this b....dy arrogant bunch. In my very humble opinion you can NEVER do enough for the Severn Hospice. What a really, unfeeling, uncaring, character this bloke is. Let's hope neither he nor his family need to use the Hospice. Well done to your MP Shrews81.
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 21, 2015 10:11:07 GMT 1
Unfortunately, the Shrewsbury constituency is unlikely to change. The town itself is pretty 50/50 if local council elections are used as a guide. The surrounding rural a area though are Tory through and through. I actually know people who work on farms that vote Tory because the boss does. I genuinely believe that if the nasty party put a blue rosette on a monkey, it would win the seat at a General Election. Thinking about it, they have done that before.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 21, 2015 10:26:55 GMT 1
We are not all Tory in the rural areas but agree sadly most are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 10:37:07 GMT 1
I have never voted for him but many seem to think he is ok. Marsdem was a better MP for this Town, in my opinion the better of all who have represented Shrewsbury, until he lost his way through personal problems, and I am not a Labour voter!
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Post by northwestman on Sept 21, 2015 10:43:32 GMT 1
His remark 'someone has to pay off the deficit' would certainly not be directed towards the bankers.
He doesn't seem intelligent enough to obfuscate. Duplicitous and mendacious would be nearer the mark.
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Post by mattmw on Sept 21, 2015 10:49:38 GMT 1
Could stick a blue rosette on a pig in most areas of Shropshire and they would get elected. Although it seems pigs are rather popular with the PM too!
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Post by northwestman on Sept 21, 2015 12:11:40 GMT 1
Could stick a blue rosette on a pig in most areas of Shropshire and they would get elected. Although it seems pigs are rather popular with the PM too! Reminds me of that old lyric referring to a drunk lying in the gutter with a pig. "You can always tell a person from the company he chooses, and the pig got up and slowly walked away."
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Oct 14, 2015 10:04:57 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 10:33:34 GMT 1
Good spot RR . His recent TV performance was shocking but it all begins to make sense now . Looks like yet another Tory with his snout in the trough. .
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Post by northwestman on Oct 14, 2015 10:50:19 GMT 1
Yes. It's appalling to think that a man who can produce a performance like that on Newsnight is an elected MP.
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Post by camdenshrew on Oct 14, 2015 11:40:10 GMT 1
I wait with bated breath for the Shropshire Star's coverage of Desperate Dan's Saudi connections and his support for its pre-medieval legal system.
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Post by jamo on Oct 14, 2015 13:40:02 GMT 1
We are just so lucky to have this man as our representative. Honest Dan, everyone's friend.
Up standing bunch the local Conservative Party arn't they ?
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Post by sussexshrew on Oct 14, 2015 14:14:43 GMT 1
He had to shout out " disgaceful". He has to appease his paymasters; he has to earn his money.
Get your snout out of the Saudi trough, Kawczynski, you know what DC does with pigs.
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Post by venceremos on Oct 14, 2015 16:43:27 GMT 1
Well spotted Rusholme.
I'd be interested to hear Mr Kawczynski comment on the case of Karl Andree (74 year old British man sentenced to 350 lashes and a 1 year sentence for having home made wine).
Or the case of Ali Mohammad al-Nimr, a 17 year old pro-democracy activist allegedly tortured into confessing to attacking police during demonstrations and sentenced to death.
Or the case of Raif Badawi, writer and pro-democracy blogger, sentenced to 10 years' prison, 1,000 lashes and a fine for those activities.
Or, returning to his infamous Newsnight appearance, the continued killing of civilians in Yemen by Saudi airstrikes.
If he's unwilling to comment on specific cases involving his Saudi friends, let's hear his views on the treatment of women in that country. Or perhaps he can discuss the longstanding allegations of Saudi exporting Islamist extremism and thereby being implicated in acts of terrorism against the west, including 9/11.
Not often I find myself retweeting UKIP but Douglas Carswell asked on Twitter today whether Kawczynski could be referred to as the Hon Member for Saudi Arabia. Apparently he took exception to Carswell retweeting his epic Newsnight interview.
Mr Kawczynski, you have some questions to answer about your relationship with this regime. You're not the only one but this would be a start.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 17:14:10 GMT 1
Ohh Mother , I feel a storm brewing . I can see a great big dark cloud over Danny boys head and its gonna dump a colossal amount of s**te on his head . I do hope so . The mans a fool of the highest calibre or , as someone once stated about a certain person " he sets himself extremely low standards which he continuously fails to live up to". That's our Daniel , absolutely f.ckin useless .
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Post by northwestman on Oct 14, 2015 17:39:53 GMT 1
Well spotted Rusholme. I'd be interested to hear Mr Kawczynski comment on the case of Karl Andree (74 year old British man sentenced to 350 lashes and a 1 year sentence for having home made wine). Or the case of Ali Mohammad al-Nimr, a 17 year old pro-democracy activist allegedly tortured into confessing to attacking police during demonstrations and sentenced to death. Or the case of Raif Badawi, writer and pro-democracy blogger, sentenced to 10 years' prison, 1,000 lashes and a fine for those activities. Or, returning to his infamous Newsnight appearance, the continued killing of civilians in Yemen by Saudi airstrikes. If he's unwilling to comment on specific cases involving his Saudi friends, let's hear his views on the treatment of women in that country. Or perhaps he can discuss the longstanding allegations of Saudi exporting Islamist extremism and thereby being implicated in acts of terrorism against the west, including 9/11. Not often I find myself retweeting UKIP but Douglas Carswell asked on Twitter today whether Kawczynski could be referred to as the Hon Member for Saudi Arabia. Apparently he took exception to Carswell retweeting his epic Newsnight interview. Mr Kawczynski, you have some questions to answer about your relationship with this regime. You're not the only one but this would be a start. You'll be o.k. in Saudi Arabia so long as you have recourse to extensive funds to bribe your way out of things. My ex German brother in law, an engineer for a German Company, was caught by the Saudi religious police with case loads of booze in the back of his car. He was initially thrown into a Saudi Arabian prison and sentenced to a large number of lashes. However, his German employers were able to get him out by paying out an extremely large sum to the Saudi authorities, in return for which the Saudis commuted his sentence to attending a few religious lessons on the Koran prior to being deported to Kuwait, where he happily continued to earn high wages and drink copious amounts of alcohol.
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