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Post by venceremos on Sept 11, 2015 23:46:21 GMT 1
Splendidly entertaining/excruciating interview with Danny K on Newsnight tonight. He seemed to be on in his capacity as Saudi Minister of Information or something but he got royally skewered by James O'Brien, who makes Paxman seem like Alan Titchmarsh. Well worth a catch up.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Sept 11, 2015 23:51:31 GMT 1
Will have to have a watch, they talking about Yemen by any chance? Will be interesting to see how that situation develops in the light of the current refugee crisis.
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Sept 12, 2015 0:51:46 GMT 1
Kawczynski... Now there is a man completely out of his depth intellectually, but then so must the residents of Shrewsbury who voted for him.
Have met him and seen him on the television several times and have never seen him win a debate because he has been outwitted. He reminds me of Tim 'nice, but dim'.
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Post by jonbond on Sept 12, 2015 7:49:37 GMT 1
Shrewsbury and atcham must have had the worst run of MPs in the whole of the UK since the war . There is a fascinating chapter on this specific subject in a book by Paxman. He describes John Langford holt as not being in the intellectuall vanguard of the party who listed his interests as minding his own business and in 38 years never served as minister and was responsible for 1 piece of legislation about nails . Paxman then goes on to discuss the affairs of Derek Conway who chillingly reveals that he great pleasure from the painful death of James goldsmith who he held responsible for his defeat in 1997. Then we had marsden and his multi defections and no kawcynski who was described in the spectator as the most stupid MP in parliament ! Not doing well are we
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Post by jamo on Sept 12, 2015 8:02:29 GMT 1
Wow ! How lucky are we ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 8:18:29 GMT 1
One redeeming feature is that due to FPTP the majority of those who did vote, didn't for him.
The people of Shrewsbury aren't totally bonkers.
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Post by Matster on Sept 12, 2015 8:29:15 GMT 1
First past the post works if there are only two realistic choices to vote for. A solution could be that if opposition parties want to get voted in an area then the weaker party should not off a candidate and agree to not stand in another area in return.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 8:54:30 GMT 1
For those that have not watched. Failed to comment on any potential investigation of Saudi Arabia and continually launched a tirade about the BBC and its biased journalism, at one point stating that the BBC was falsifying facts and that Aljazeera was offering more balanced view on actions involving it's part owning government Qatar.
Not seen a presenter so succinctly rip apart an interviewee quite so viciously on numerous occasions!
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 12, 2015 9:07:46 GMT 1
Is there anyone on here who' voted for this gork who'd enlighten us as to why? (especially the process that made him the conservative candidate?)
Unbelievable ignorance
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 9:37:44 GMT 1
Is there anyone on here who' voted for this gork who'd enlighten us as to why? (especially the process that made him the conservative candidate?) Unbelievable ignorance Careful.....
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Post by Eric Rex on Sept 12, 2015 10:45:52 GMT 1
compelling and awkward viewing, thanks for the heads up
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Post by jonbond on Sept 12, 2015 10:59:38 GMT 1
Kawcynski made some slightly valid points about the BBC albeit in a way that made him look a fool . Obrien is a rising star at the Beeb after they poached him from LBC ; by his own admission he is proper left wing so should fit in well. He should have at least attempted to answer the question
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 12, 2015 11:59:16 GMT 1
Kawcynski made some slightly valid points about the BBC albeit in a way that made him look a fool . Obrien is a rising star at the Beeb after they poached him from LBC ; by his own admission he is proper left wing so should fit in well. He should have at least attempted to answer the question why? he's a politician
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Post by stfcfan87 on Sept 12, 2015 12:25:21 GMT 1
Splendidly entertaining/excruciating interview with Danny K on Newsnight tonight. He seemed to be on in his capacity as Saudi Minister of Information or something but he got royally skewered by James O'Brien, who makes Paxman seem like Alan Titchmarsh. Well worth a catch up. Thanks for that, will have to watch that prat being torn apart!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:00:34 GMT 1
Splendidly entertaining/excruciating interview with Danny K on Newsnight tonight. He seemed to be on in his capacity as Saudi Minister of Information or something but he got royally skewered by James O'Brien, who makes Paxman seem like Alan Titchmarsh. Well worth a catch up. Thanks for that, will have to watch that prat being torn apart! Have just watched Mr. K perform on Newsnight . This man is our M.P. It beggars belief that the fool was successful in winning the Tory group selection committees vote to represent us . Perhaps they thought any clown would be acceptable to our good folk , after all , as long as he is wearing a Conservative rosette he would be odds on to be elected . How right they were . Dont know what he says about the residents of this good Town but the man is an absolute nightmare . Conway was bad enough but this guy has all the intelligence of a gnat . If you haven't seen it please do , it's horrendous , possibly the worst political interview ever on t v .
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Post by wimbledonshrew on Sept 13, 2015 17:32:58 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:41:00 GMT 1
Good luck with that then Daniel . Look forward to seeing you as often as possible on TV , you are without doubt comedy gold .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 18:03:01 GMT 1
Well done Daniel Kawczynski , Shrewsbury and Atcham salutes you.
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Post by mattmw on Sept 13, 2015 18:42:43 GMT 1
Hope it's more successful than the time he threatened to sue the Police for raiding his office only for them to reveal he actually invited them in!
Good old Daniel showing to us all a lack of brains is no barrier to a successful political career
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 20:03:24 GMT 1
If I was the BBC I wouldnt be overly concerned. Generally he makes a lot of claims/noise in the press about his grand plans only for them never to be heard of again
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Post by jonbond on Sept 13, 2015 20:31:41 GMT 1
This was the clown who said he would lay down in the road to stop the incinerator at harlescott being built , but then promptly changed his mind when it got approved
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 13, 2015 21:01:35 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP.
Certainly the most accessible / involved.
Whether he's a moron, or stupid, or whatever, is up to the individual to decide.
I'd rather he was clued up about the north west relief road than Saudi Foreign policy unless he's actually a minister.
That's not to say I support him, or what he stands for, or his party, but I still think he's alright as a local MP.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 21:03:22 GMT 1
He was supposed to meet with me and some other volunteers to see the work we do around disability. He failed to show at the appointed time. No email, no phone call, no explanation, no apology.
Class act.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 13, 2015 21:12:41 GMT 1
He was supposed to meet with me and some other volunteers to see the work we do around disability. He failed to show at the appointed time. No email, no phone call, no explanation, no apology. Class act. He falsely accused me of lying in the local press when he used a photo I told him he couldn't use. But I still think he's been quite a good MP.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 22:14:14 GMT 1
Compared with the previous MP's who have represented us I suppose he has been "quite a good MP". It hasn't been that difficult has it. Holt, Conway, Marsden , we have truly been blessed . There must be something about Shrewsbury that we end up with the fag end of the political spectrum . Suppose it could have been worse, we could have had the fragrant Suzanne Evans representing us . Even the good people of Shrewsbury aren't that stupid so I suppose we must be grateful for small mercies .
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Post by jamo on Sept 13, 2015 22:15:35 GMT 1
I think Danny K has been a pretty reasonable local MP. Each to their own but I think he has been nothing short of shocking as a constituency MP. Not because of Party Political reasons just for his accountability, his integrity on local issues and his willingness to represent all within Shrewsbury & Atcham and not just his chosen favourites. This town reached an all time low when Derek Conway was our representative in Westminster, but by crikey this bloke runs him close. Kawczynski is a classic example of someone becoming an MP because they are unemployable elsewhere. I despise the bloke for his lack of ambition, credibility and support for this town and its residents
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Post by mattmw on Sept 13, 2015 22:36:07 GMT 1
I recall when the new ground was being debated he was publicly supporting the move. However being local to the area I attended some residents meetings at which he briefed against the move.
Also had involvement with him via work and all dealings with him have proved him to be badly briefed on his own governments policies and totally disinterested in anything that doesn't involve cheap publicity for him. Think Private Eye voted him as Britain's dimmest MP
So pretty much like any MP then
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Post by WATR on Sept 13, 2015 22:45:21 GMT 1
Emailed him once regarding an issue. The response, signed off under his name, asked me to telephone him on the number provided. Phoned the number and he immediately went on the defensive, asking if I was a constituent, how did I get his number and something about parliamentary secretaries.
He has also elected to block me on Twitter, so clearly likes to engage with valued constituents. c***.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Sept 13, 2015 23:27:31 GMT 1
Just watched that. Sinister is the best word I can think of to describe his performance.
It's easy to get distracted by just how poorly he handled that situation but see through that and have a listen to what he's actually saying in that interview. Blanket denial of what's staring him and everyone else in the face based on little more than conventional wisdom with just enough mudslinging about the BBC chucked in to make it stick with his core audience.
Rough translation of what he said; "Of course they got rid of the evidence before the BBC arrived, you know what these crafty Yemenis are like, trust the loony lefties at the BBC to get the wrong end of the stick, nudge nudge wink wink."
All he had to do was give a sincere declaration that he didn't believe any war crimes had been committed by the Saudi led coalition and that he felt the intelligence acted upon by the Saudis would be proven to be sound in due course. Probably still wouldn't have washed with O'Brien but he could at least have walked away with a dignified stalemate. Instead he came across as if he felt having to answer criticism of the actions of his Saudi friends was beneath him.
Sadly though, such is the state of politics in the UK as long as it plays well with the 30% or so of people he needs to keep on side he won't care. Personally I've never voted for the guy and don't believe he's been a great servant of the town but I'd like to believe that even those who do back him as a local MP would take issue with having such a thoroughly unpleasant individual representing us at Westminster.
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Post by sussexshrew on Sept 14, 2015 0:37:11 GMT 1
Still at least the Saudi general came over as trustworthy and honest... and terribly well informed!
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