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Post by Dancin on Apr 24, 2015 10:07:35 GMT 1
With the minutes silence for Bradford before the match and the clapping at the 35 minute for Nick Mann is there anything planned to make the passing of Lloyd Burton?
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Post by MartinB on Apr 24, 2015 10:27:50 GMT 1
18th minute support by Cheltenham fans for player with cancer. Other thread about 11th minute for Lloyd.
If can find a few more the people wanting to stand will get their way without stewards being able to do anything without being disrespectful
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 10:28:13 GMT 1
1 Minute clapping at 11 minutes for Lloyd Burton I thought was already planned.
I have to ask the question do we need to continue the 35 minute clapping for Nick Mann, we have all paid our respects and maybe it is time to allow everyone to move on. In my opinion continueing it almost makes it disrespectful and tomorrow should be about paying our respects to Lloyd!
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Post by calimero on Apr 24, 2015 11:25:52 GMT 1
I think with young Lloyd's death and the subsequent show of respect tomorrow it would certainly seem a natural time to draw a line on the applause for Nick Mann.
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Post by TheFoz on Apr 24, 2015 13:14:06 GMT 1
2 Games left, why not keep the applauses til the end of the season?
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2015 13:26:52 GMT 1
2 Games left, why not keep the applauses til the end of the season? Agree with this. As much as I know tomorrow's first half has a lot of this going on, it's a one off and I think we should all be able to cope. I don't understand how it could possibly be disrespectful to applaud Nick Mann for two more games of such a memorable season.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 24, 2015 13:37:21 GMT 1
need to set some reminders on my phone............. Good causes but the more it's done the less important / meaning it has
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2015 13:45:20 GMT 1
Agreed, but I think this (brief) period has been exceptional.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Apr 24, 2015 14:19:51 GMT 1
I agree with Fred on this, I personally find mourning or paying respects to someone to be a personal thing to the individual which is why I've often felt the wrath of people on here for discussing my views on the annual OTT Hillsborough 'celebrations'.
Having recently lost one of my parents, I can identify with being genuinely overwhelmed by the kind words and support of friends, work colleagues and very often the words or acknowledgement by complete strangers that you take a lot of comfort from. But I must admit had it been my mothers name we were chanting at every Town game since her death I would be overly conscious of it becoming a bit of a hindrance to people, spreading the sentiment a bit thin if you like.
I'm not sure whether Nick Mann has been laid to rest but if he has I would assume that his family are trying as best they can to move on from what has been a period of their lives frankly beyond comprehension.
And finally, call me a traditionalist but I think any mourning of someones life should be a period of reflection and silence, not applause. In the instance of Elliot Richards, the Cheltenham player diagnosed with testicular cancer, or any display of support or rallying round for a cause then a minutes round of applause is far more fitting.
As a club we annually pay respects to our fallen and my family plan to have my mums name on the screen in the new year, alongside Lloyd, Nick and all the other people who have sadly been taken from us too soon. To try and commemorate every single worthy round of applause/period of silence at each game would just become too much to the point when it would be insincere and loses meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 14:26:38 GMT 1
I agree with Fred on this, I personally find mourning or paying respects to someone to be a personal thing to the individual which is why I've often felt the wrath of people on here for discussing my views on the annual Hillsborough 'celebrations'. Having recently lost one of my parents, I can identify with being genuinely overwhelmed by the kind words and support of friends, work colleagues and very often the words or acknowledgement by complete strangers that you take a lot of comfort from. But I must admit had it been my mothers name we were chanting at every Town game since her death I would be overly conscious of it becoming a bit of a hindrance to people, spreading the sentiment a bit thin if you like. I'm not sure whether Nick Mann has been laid to rest but if he has I would assume that his family are trying as best they can to move on from what has been a period of their lives frankly beyond comprehension. And finally, call me a traditionalist but I think any mourning of someones life should be a period of reflection and silence, not applause. In the instance of Elliot Richards, the Cheltenham player diagnosed with testicular cancer, or any display of support or rallying round for a cause then a minutes round of applause is far more fitting. As a club we annually pay respects to our fallen and my family plan to have my mums name on the screen in the new year, alongside Lloyd, Nick and all the other people who have sadly been taken from us too soon. To try and commemorate every single worthy round of applause/period of silence at each game would just become too much to the point when it would be insincere and loses meaning. Im not sure we do an annual celebration of Hillsborough do we? That aside, i totally agree and I'm genuinely saddened to hear of your recent loss!
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2015 14:26:56 GMT 1
Excellent post LSF and very sorry to hear about your mum. Condolences to you and your family.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Apr 24, 2015 14:43:51 GMT 1
I wasn't necessarily referring to us re: Hillsborough, and I think we've discussed our differences on it before. I think a lot of the good will and attempts to pay tribute to what was a dark day for English football and tremendous loss of life is hijacked by certain groups for political gain and particular agendas.
But that's for another day and thank you for your kind words.
The perfect tribute to anybody we've lost would be a Town win tomorrow.
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Post by calimero on Apr 24, 2015 15:07:26 GMT 1
And finally, call me a traditionalist but I think any mourning of someones life should be a period of reflection and silence, not applause. In the instance of Elliot Richards, the Cheltenham player diagnosed with testicular cancer, or any display of support or rallying round for a cause then a minutes round of applause is far more fitting. As a club we annually pay respects to our fallen and my family plan to have my mums name on the screen in the new year, alongside Lloyd, Nick and all the other people who have sadly been taken from us too soon. To try and commemorate every single worthy round of applause/period of silence at each game would just become too much to the point when it would be insincere and loses meaning. Agree.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 24, 2015 15:20:08 GMT 1
Particular agendas about Hillsborough like Justice for the 96? Celebrations?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 24, 2015 15:21:30 GMT 1
Regarding Nick Mann, I do think it is exceptional because just three away games ago he was in our crowd at Fratton Park and he died on his way home from watching us. That does make it different.
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