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Post by northwestman on Apr 19, 2015 14:40:32 GMT 1
Whilst agreeing 100% with these sentiments, regrettably this does not reflect my actual experience at the Leeds away game where I was sitting right behind "The Whistler" (whatever happened to him?) and had others frequently standing up in front of me obstructing my view whilst a few seriously inebriated teenagers crashed around behind me chanting tuneless dirges whilst paying little if any attention to the game. 'The Whistler' Colin resides in Block 19 and still whistles. Thanks for that. Thank God I'm in Block 4.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 19, 2015 15:09:51 GMT 1
This will work well AS LONG as the stewards dont enforce 'sit in your allocated seat'.... Crew is an example of where your almost led to your seat but many others state it then don't enforce it like Shrewsbury's away end..... If a group are told to sit in their allocated seat and it happens to be at the back then you can't critisis them if they do... Some people just follow the rules an thats that! I'll sit or stand depending where I am and what oters are doing BUT some on here are publically admitting to breaking ground regulations by 1) standing in a designated seated area. 2) Not abiding to the ground segragation rules and purchasing a ticket for the away end.... Harmless but those monitoring such sites and they do have now been tiped off !
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 19, 2015 15:11:11 GMT 1
Just read your post again and have to say that when I purchased my tickets, there was no choice given as to side stand or behind the goal - - they were just tickets! No their not, my tickets clearly state Hazelwood Stand 2 row G and have seat numbers. Having been to the ground before I'm happy with seats and will expect to sit or stand in them as I have two juniors with me and won't get wet if it rains. Yes mine say Hazlewood too. Is this at the side or behind the goal? What I meant in my post was that no-one said do you want to be at the side or behind the goal - they just sold me tickets.
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Post by Dancin on Apr 19, 2015 15:37:33 GMT 1
Behind goal, block 2 is to the right of goal as you stand behind it, block 3 is directly behind and block 4 is to left of the goal.
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Post by Dancin on Apr 19, 2015 15:45:00 GMT 1
Not sure if its the case at Cheltenham, but some grounds regulations require fans to sit in the seat designated as part of the licensing agreements. Think its a way of monitoring possible trouble makers via CCTV and being able to guide stewards to specific seats if there is a problem Hopefully a bit of common sense as suggested in the posts above will make it a good day for everyone, but with it being a big game for both sides and a big attendance just be aware the stewards may be asked to enforce the rules more strictly. Possible Cheltenham might be employing outside stewards too, who are slightly less flexible than regular club stewards You've hit the nail on head with this post, it's all about the licensing and tracing anyone if damaged is caused at the ground.
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Post by dannylad01 on Apr 19, 2015 16:03:14 GMT 1
This plan always sounds good, but if allocated seating is enforced, can you really blame people for sitting in their allocated seat?
I imagine that the people who want to stand would ideally like to congregate at the back directly behind the goal? As has been stated, it is a shallow away end, so this is likely to give the best view. If someone who wants to sit and the seat that they have purchased (by chance of course as you can't pick your seat) gives them the best view of the game, are they entitled to sit in it, instead of sitting lower down to the side? Especially if they get there early? Much like a seat on the half way line at Crewe.
FWIW, depending who I go with to the away games I don't mind sitting or standing and try to abide by the unwritten rule. I'm just trying to put across the other side and that there may have to be compromise on both sides.
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Post by jamo on Apr 19, 2015 16:13:18 GMT 1
I predict the whole scenario will descend into utter chaos on the day
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Post by Dancin on Apr 19, 2015 16:41:37 GMT 1
I predict the whole scenario will descend into utter chaos on the day Unfortunately I tend to agree on a day that will hopefully be a day of celebrations?!
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Apr 19, 2015 16:45:13 GMT 1
Kids and I are find standing however my brother in law can't stand due to a dodgy leg. Hopefully common sense and courtesy will prevail
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Post by essofsteel on Apr 19, 2015 16:53:18 GMT 1
Unfortunately, in spite of the good intentions of many on here, a great number of Town fans, as at Bury, give no thought to those behind them.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 19, 2015 17:00:54 GMT 1
Cracking atmosphere at Bury and MANY Town fans standing compared to normal
Not going to Cheltenham, I'm sure we will get promoted but the atmosphere and general enjoyance of the occasion will be dreadful compared to where it should be at
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Post by blazey on Apr 19, 2015 17:30:33 GMT 1
A very good post. Adherence to the above idea will lead to a wonderful afternoon in which everyone can watch the game as they please. I do foresee issues though with the sit-down-in-silence brigade which is why a couple of pals and I have plumped for a ticket on the home terrace. COYB I seem to remember doing a diagram for sitters/standers for Molineux last season. Could someone with Photoshop skills knock up something similar for Cheltenham? On a separate note I think this is possibly my first season ever I have stood up every match home and away and have never encountered any issues. With 1500+ expected to make the journey I can't see how stewards will be able to enforce allocated seating on the day.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 19, 2015 17:44:16 GMT 1
A very good post. Adherence to the above idea will lead to a wonderful afternoon in which everyone can watch the game as they please. I do foresee issues though with the sit-down-in-silence brigade which is why a couple of pals and I have plumped for a ticket on the home terrace. COYB I seem to remember doing a diagram for sitters/standers for Molineux last season. Could someone with Photoshop skills knock up something similar for Cheltenham? On a separate note I think this is possibly my first season ever I have stood up every match home and away and have never encountered any issues. With 1500+ expected to make the journey I can't see how stewards will be able to enforce allocated seating on the day. Cracking idea Jake lad.
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Post by Dancin on Apr 19, 2015 18:04:28 GMT 1
A very good post. Adherence to the above idea will lead to a wonderful afternoon in which everyone can watch the game as they please. I do foresee issues though with the sit-down-in-silence brigade which is why a couple of pals and I have plumped for a ticket on the home terrace. COYB I can't see how stewards will be able to enforce allocated seating on the day. In the same way I'd expect a steward to move someone if they wouldn't move after being asked if I was at the Greenhous, Theatre Severn, Wolves Civic or the O2. For Saturday I have been allocated, IMHO, good seats the ones for Newport were terrible so it's swings and roundabouts.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 19, 2015 18:22:05 GMT 1
Cracking atmosphere at Bury and MANY Town fans standing compared to normal Not going to Cheltenham, I'm sure we will get promoted but the atmosphere and general enjoyance of the occasion will be dreadful compared to where it should be at I wasn't at Bury, but may I venture to suggest that some of those standing had little option as otherwise they'd not be seeing much of the match.
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Post by blazey on Apr 19, 2015 18:23:27 GMT 1
In the same way I'd expect a steward to move someone if they wouldn't move after being asked if I was at the Greenhous, Theatre Severn, Wolves Civic or the O2. For Saturday I have been allocated, IMHO, good seats the ones for Newport were terrible so it's swings and roundabouts. In a sellout away end of 1700 it will only take one person not being in their allocated seat for the whole system to descend into absolute chaos. A small amount of common-sense and self-regulation by Salop fans will surely make for a better afternoon all round. My plan is, as usual, to turn up at 2.30, head for the back row and hope for the best! Did you sit in your "terrible" allocated seat at Newport?
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 19, 2015 18:26:50 GMT 1
Cracking atmosphere at Bury and MANY Town fans standing compared to normal Not going to Cheltenham, I'm sure we will get promoted but the atmosphere and general enjoyance of the occasion will be dreadful compared to where it should be at I wasn't at Bury, but may I venture to suggest that some of those standing had little option as otherwise they'd not be seeing much of the match. There were 1200 in an away end which holds 2100 with those standing mostly at the back. There was absolutely no need for anyone to stand who didn't want to.
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 19, 2015 18:48:03 GMT 1
Cracking atmosphere at Bury and MANY Town fans standing compared to normal Not going to Cheltenham, I'm sure we will get promoted but the atmosphere and general enjoyance of the occasion will be dreadful compared to where it should be at I wasn't at Bury, but may I venture to suggest that some of those standing had little option as otherwise they'd not be seeing much of the match. Nah, loads of empty seats at Bury for a clear view Was great to see, like at the big clubs
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Post by northwestman on Apr 19, 2015 19:01:03 GMT 1
Glad to hear it. However, from the description given of the away end at Cheltenham there may be one or two problems forthcoming.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 19, 2015 19:04:52 GMT 1
Glad to hear it. However, from the description given of the away end at Cheltenham there may be one or two problems forthcoming. See bullet point one of my original post. There will be problems; let's actually try and reach a common sense solution rather than simply acquiescing to the status quo then whinging about it afterwards.
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Post by WATR on Apr 19, 2015 19:06:27 GMT 1
The crowd photo's from Bury show two swathes of largely empty seats where those who wished to sit, away from the majority of people who were standing, would have been perfectly able to do so.
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Post by MidWalesShrew on Apr 19, 2015 19:20:02 GMT 1
Got 1 adult and 1 U19 in block 6 of the stand along the side of the pitch.... anyone want to sway for behind the goal??
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Post by Matster on Apr 19, 2015 19:40:54 GMT 1
No their not, my tickets clearly state Hazelwood Stand 2 row G and have seat numbers. Having been to the ground before I'm happy with seats and will expect to sit or stand in them as I have two juniors with me and won't get wet if it rains. Yes mine say Hazlewood too. Is this at the side or behind the goal? What I meant in my post was that no-one said do you want to be at the side or behind the goal - they just sold me tickets. Ours are Hazelwood stand 4 and when I bought the tickets I asked about any choice and the chap said that they were issuing them in a set order. So no one would get a choice.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 19, 2015 20:06:53 GMT 1
That's what I thought. Fair enough. Thanks to you and Dancin for the info.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 20, 2015 8:10:52 GMT 1
Are stands five and six a Cheltenham actually separate? I'm hoping to be able to go and find my brother.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Apr 20, 2015 10:06:54 GMT 1
Well the weather forecast is rain..........
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Post by Matster on Apr 20, 2015 18:25:53 GMT 1
Six is next to five on the ground guide. I assume it is not segregated.
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Post by NelsonShrew on Apr 20, 2015 18:52:08 GMT 1
I can see this being a bit of a free for all of to many people take the 'sit where we want' stance..
Dont get me wrong, Id like to see a packed terrace of people stood up and spurring us to promotion, however lets just say Joey Bloggs has bought 5x tickets.
2 of those are for Joey and his Dad, who both love to sing and stand, but the other 3 tickets are for Mum, Nan and Grandad who like to sit down.
It would mean some people either splitting up, or being sat behind people who are stood.
Like I say, I'm all for standing up. But with reserved seating, I cant see it working.
Fingers crossed for 3pts though, hope you all enjoy it those who go
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 19:06:10 GMT 1
We have seats for row G block 2 which I think is 2nd row to the back which will please my son who is 19 and likes to stand anyway and I am quite happy to stand!
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Post by daveshrew on Apr 21, 2015 15:10:40 GMT 1
Interesting debate but there's not really any solution other than having unallocated seating and then getting to the back and getting there early if you want to stand.
Personally, I prefer to stand up watching a game of football, I think it contributes to a much better atmosphere. There are times when I sit down as well but it depends on my company at the game. When I walk into the ground at an away fixture, I wouldn't normally even glance at the seat number on my ticket, head as far back as I can and stand up, making sure that there is nobody behind me who would like to sit down. Supporting Shrewsbury means that typically I can do this without bother 98% of the time. When we stroll into the ground at Cheltenham at 14:55 I fully expect that the seat number on my ticket will already be taken by someone else, we won't be able to stand together and there will be no room at the back either. I consider that to be my own fault for staying at the pub instead of getting to the game early. I'm hoping that the chaos will have sorted itself by then and we'll just take a pick of the seats that are left. I won't stand up if there are people behind wanting to sit, but I'm content with that. I just want to watch the game and I'm very much looking forward to the entire day. I won't let it be spoilt by having to remain seated.
I'd be interested to know what happens with the much larger clubs who regularly sell out their away allocation. I've seen many televised games involving Man Utd (for example) playing away where the entire stand is on their feet throughout the duration of the game. What happens to the people who aren't able to stand for long periods, do they just not go to the game?
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