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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Mar 27, 2015 9:39:25 GMT 1
I'm a bit puzzled by that to be honest. I mean the thing is that if there is just one person in the cockpit who doesn't wish to allow anyone else in then they can lock everyone else out. If there is second person in the cockpit then they could open it to others. Did he explain why? I think the point he was making was that there were other ways to disable a plane that would mean that unless the other person was qualified there would be no time to get someone to the controls to reverse the action. I agree with you though it has to help having a second person sat there They will have to resort to what HGV drivers do and p**s in a Tizer bottle!
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Post by shrewder on Mar 27, 2015 9:50:58 GMT 1
I think the point he was making was that there were other ways to disable a plane that would mean that unless the other person was qualified there would be no time to get someone to the controls to reverse the action. Blimey! That's a scary thought. Its about keeping a sense of perspective. Such events are extremely rare and if there had been a second person in this case the chance is they would have at least been able to have opened the door. Whether the pilot would have had time to get to the controls in this case and reverse the action we will never know.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 27, 2015 10:50:12 GMT 1
I thought most piloting was actually done by computer these days, or is that not so? If it is the case, then perhaps an override system could be developed to prevent a plane being deliberately crashed.
Easy to say I know but maybe possible?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 27, 2015 10:53:49 GMT 1
Thing is even if the pilot got in what would of happened?
Would the co pilot tried to attack him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 11:00:12 GMT 1
I thought most piloting was actually done by computer these days, or is that not so? If it is the case, then perhaps an override system could be developed to prevent a plane being deliberately crashed. Easy to say I know but maybe possible? We can send men to the moon and vehicles to the outer reaches of the solar system, if the will is there then it can be done!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 27, 2015 14:23:28 GMT 1
Blimey! That's a scary thought. Its about keeping a sense of perspective. Such events are extremely rare and if there had been a second person in this case the chance is they would have at least been able to have opened the door. Whether the pilot would have had time to get to the controls in this case and reverse the action we will never know. I guess what that chap does make sense the more I think about it. I guess whilst one pilot is away the other can put the plane in some kind of dive/spin that can be difficult to regain control off. Only guessing like, no idea about this sort of thing but maybe that's what he were referring to. And sure, I appreciate the chances are pretty slim and these things are extremely rare but still, scary stuff.
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Post by El Presidente on Mar 27, 2015 21:40:28 GMT 1
I thought most piloting was actually done by computer these days, or is that not so? If it is the case, then perhaps an override system could be developed to prevent a plane being deliberately crashed. Easy to say I know but maybe possible? We can send men to the moon and vehicles to the outer reaches of the solar system, if the will is there then it can be done! Trouble is Pab, Vence, software is not infallible - there have been a number of incidents of un-commanded flight inputs due to software bugs. Furthermore, one could over-stress the aircraft causing it to break up; stop the engines; there are a number of ways an aircraft can be caused to 'crash'. I don't think we will ever get to a state where you could ever prevent this incident from happening again; until recently (although there have been a few other unconfirmed air crash suicides) this scenario was completely unforeseen - more so in Europe. After 9/11 cockpits were closed, doors were armoured, locks installed. In an attempt to prevent terrorists using aircraft as weapons, the authorities unwittingly created a situation where a trusted individual can do much the same.
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