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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 21, 2015 20:30:09 GMT 1
sat in the east stand today. Have to say I have never heard such a negative crowd in my life!! Whilst some tried to cheer on the lads a large number sat and criticised from start to finish!! i know we didn't play well and made hard work of it but even after 3 mins at 1-0 people were moaning about woods and lutweiler.
I'm not in the game of slating our fans far from it but I'd go so far as saying today sections of the crowd were a disgrace!!!!! Get behind the lads and cheer us into promotion!!
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Post by essofsteel on Mar 21, 2015 20:46:52 GMT 1
I sat in the east stand too. The fact that people were not singing "stand up if you love Shrewsbury" & "Ooh the f*****g ell are you" all through the game does not constitute moaning! People in all parts of the ground pay their money and are entitled to their own views. I find that people around me appreciate it when the team play well & get a little frustrated when they don't. This sounded the same all around the ground.
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Post by block17nick on Mar 21, 2015 20:50:23 GMT 1
I could'nt agree more. The fans need to get behind the team. When the crowd did get behind the team towards the end of the game, it did appear to lift the the team. The crowd really need to get behind the team home and away for the rest of the season. We are so close to promotion and a good vocal crowd could play a big part in the remaining games, particularly at home. We need to make a lot of noise for the last four home games and make it uncomfortable for the away team. Get behind them. I intend to go to all the remaining games home and away and get behind the team. I suggest others do the same.
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 21, 2015 20:52:40 GMT 1
Personally don't think the crowd was on their backs much at all, just eerily silent. First half could have been a friendly. 10 minutes in our 2nd placed local team were 1 0 up and you could hear a pin drop, it was really weird today.
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Post by Liam on Mar 21, 2015 20:55:13 GMT 1
I didn't honestly think it was that bad today. The only thing that annoyed me were the moans and groans when we were trying to knock it around at the back. We were 1-0 up but under pressure. Trying to keep a bit of controlled possession was exactly the right thing to do.
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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 21, 2015 21:11:55 GMT 1
I sat in the east stand too. The fact that people were not singing "stand up if you love Shrewsbury" & "Ooh the f*****g are you" all through the game does not constitute moaning! People in all parts of the ground pay their money and are entitled to their own views. I find that people around me appreciate it when the team play well & get a little frustrated when they don't. This sounded the same all around the ground. I agree in part that the whole stadium seemed flat today but when u hear get him off when woods plays the ball back and booing when down to 10 men and the lads are trying to keep hold of the ball u do begin to wonder what the mentality of some people is. Do our fans now expect us to turn up and steam roller teams?? The cheers when lutweiler kicked the ball to the centre of the pitch!! What's that all about?? Two bad kicks yes, but this kid has won us numerous games this season.... It may just be me but I do t get it!!
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Post by shrewder on Mar 21, 2015 21:14:07 GMT 1
Some managers move on if they feel the supporters don't appreciate what they are doing. Lets hope MM doesn't do that.
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Post by shrewsoftheworld on Mar 21, 2015 22:18:31 GMT 1
The sarcastic cheers when leutwiler hit a goal kick up the centre of the pitch just about sum some people up.
Yes his kicking was suspect first half today but in the same half he kept us in it with at least 3 very good saves.
It took MM cheerleading to get most of the crowd going and Liam to calm the west stand down when they were over anxious in the second half.
Crucial stage of the season and us fans need to step up to the plate like OUR team has done for most of the season
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 21, 2015 22:30:00 GMT 1
Think Lawrence told crowd to calm down or something?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 23:50:07 GMT 1
This is a tough time of the season - games are extremely tight either against sides playing for their lives or those who will play with more freedom because they're not involved at either end.
The fans' responses to MM's cheerleading was a positive and seemed to urge the team forward for the attack that lead to the goal. However the sarcastic cheering for Leutwiler's kick that stayed in was nothing short of embarrassing.
There is going to be plenty of twists and turns as the season closes. The players, management and fans need to keep their calm. Come on you blues!
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 21, 2015 23:57:55 GMT 1
sat in the east stand today. Have to say I have never heard such a negative crowd in my life!! Well that was probably me then. That was me shouting at Mellon. I'm working my arse off to get people to come to the Meddah. What a ruck of s**te. I love to get behind the team, but it was a replay of Cambridge, where we scored and sat back without tackling. Where was the PASSION? A half decent team would have torn us up for arse paper.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 8:37:08 GMT 1
Some of the stuff was embarrasing. Ironic cheers for our keeper, booing and heckling because we are trying to keep possession when 1-0 up and down to ten men.
Yesterday wasnt great but at a crucial stage of the season the fans need to get support the team, sadly thats too much of an ask for some
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 22, 2015 8:44:36 GMT 1
I couldn't go yesterday so followed it on the BBC text updates.
Speaking to some there you'd have thought we'd lost 2-0 not won.
Without any of the actual experience of being there we kept a clean sheet, scored two goals and put a game to bed with ten men.
What exactly is it people want?
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Post by atcham jack on Mar 22, 2015 8:47:07 GMT 1
do hope East stand livens up for Exeter game as AJ who hopes to be there will drop his trousers and see if that livens the buggers up!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 9:08:58 GMT 1
What was really embarrassing was watching our goalkeeper hit the ball out of play not once, not twice, not three times, but four times in succession.
Now if we were 2 or 3 up and comfortable than in was be mildly annoying, but we weren't. During that period of the game we couldn't string two passes together and we're struggling to get out of our half. Oxford were growing in confidence and our inability to control possession facilitated this.
We got away with it because Oxford were poor in the final third and even poorer in front of goal.
Teams around us won't be - you know those teams we struggle to beat.
If you weren't there you would wonder what there us to moan about. Unfortunately there is plenty, simply because on that level of performance against better teams in terms of finishing we'll blow the automatic spots.
We know we can under perform, Tranmere, Wycombe, Northampton, Southend, all within the last couple of months have shown this.
This team needs to give its collective head a shake and realise that its not as good as it thinks it is.
Likewise some of our support need to realise though we are still in a position to win the league, we can just as easily end up in the play-offs.
That's the problem with us at the moment, our form is indifferent enough to make us go either way.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 22, 2015 9:12:36 GMT 1
Think it's a little unfair to say the crowd were restless because we were playing possession football when down to ten.
The problem was Oxford had put three forward against our defence and there simply wasn't the time or space to knock it about at the back. Neither our players or manager seemed to have noticed Oxfords change in tactics. That's what's worrying we seem to try playing the same way regardless of what the opposition do
In fairness to our defenders they were trying to look up and find front players but the movement from our strikers was pretty hopeless yesterday. Needed to make runs into the channels and keep the ball in the opposition half, but they just kept coming deep and giving possession away
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Post by champagneprince on Mar 22, 2015 13:32:15 GMT 1
Dreadful performance up front, worst of the season for me, but defensively as a unit we were sound and the whole team rallied after the sending off.
Lawrence was class again, without him I doubt we'd talking about a winning poor performance. Leutwiler has problems with his kicking but keeps that ball out of the net, which is the primary objective of any goalkeeper. However keeping Lawrence fit is absolutely crucial for us IMO.
The crowd in 18/19 was ok. I certainly didn't hear any sarcasm towards Leutwiler, in fact there was plenty of encouragement for him after two decent saves. But it was understandable that the crowd were getting annoyed as Oxford were there for the taking and there seemed to be a worrying lack of energy in the team and a sense of 'just going through the motions' after what was a somewhat 'surprise' start. That same approach will see us undone by better teams and that was what was disappointing for me.
Are we mentality tired as the pressure screw is turned? It's starting to look that way and hence perhaps why MM was asking the crowd to get more involved. Not quite nail biting time yet, but not far off it and perhaps crowd, players and management are all starting to feel it.
C'mon Salop, get over that line!
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Post by RBA on Mar 22, 2015 13:56:43 GMT 1
Leutwiler did far more good than bad today my MOM one of his saves was simply outstanding the sarcasm about a couple of misplaced kicks was simply embarrassing
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 22, 2015 14:52:22 GMT 1
I'll set the scene. In the previous 2 home games we lost our nearly 2 year unbeaten league 2 run with a 'poor' to say the least game against mid table Northampton, then after getting an early goal against Cambridge we failed to apply any pressure to push on and inevitably conceded an injury time equaliser getting 1 point from the 6 we should have achieved.....which would have made us top!
Bring on mid tabled Oxford, we get an early break then for the next 45 mins struggle to keep any possession . The crowd are nervous understandably and 'encourage' a better performance form a team who appear themselves to be nervous so what do you expect? I must say I missed the group in the East stand giving positive support, which would have been a first!
As has been said, give us something to cheer about and the atmosphere improves, but look like your going to try and hang on to a slender lead and the crowd will be nervous.....
The OP say's 'i'm not in the game of slating our fans, far from it' then goes on to say some sections were a disgrace (slating me thinks)..... Would do better to get the East Stand rocking matey than slating your own fans. As for moaning about Woods and Lutweiler after 3 mins, must have been local to the East Stand (Roland's box maybe?) encouraging Wood's to play forward, and Lutweiler to not kick 5 consecutive goal kicks into touch isn't moaning
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Post by pkd on Mar 22, 2015 15:30:34 GMT 1
There's a bell end in block 16 who yells "FORWARD" in an annoying high-pitched voice whenever the defence or midfield get the ball.
I've had enough. I'm going to move to the cheap seats just to get away from him.
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Post by champagneprince on Mar 22, 2015 15:47:53 GMT 1
encouraging Wood's to play forward, and Lutweiler to not kick 5 consecutive goal kicks into touch isn't moaning
Should we really be questioning Woods apparent lack of positive play if the boss wants him to play more defensively? I don't see MM shouting at him to get forward like the fans do.
It must be confusing for the chap if the boss tells him to do one thing and the fans shout at him to do another!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 22, 2015 17:26:00 GMT 1
It's a tricky one this. I can understand why people would be a little miffed at some folk having a moan but sometimes I don't think the game helps itself by charging stupid amount to attend and pay playing as much as they do. If you are paying near on 20 notes to watch, if you are paying out decent amounts in wages then I can kinda understand why some might get a little cheesed off if your keeper is kicking the ball out to touch each and every time. There quite simply is no excuse for that.
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Post by markglasgow on Mar 22, 2015 17:32:11 GMT 1
encouraging Wood's to play forward, and Lutweiler to not kick 5 consecutive goal kicks into touch isn't moaning
Should we really be questioning Woods apparent lack of positive play if the boss wants him to play more defensively? I don't see MM shouting at him to get forward like the fans do.
It must be confusing for the chap if the boss tells him to do one thing and the fans shout at him to do another!
Not confusing at all. Woods knows exactly who's orders to follow. If players listened to naive, impatient fans rather than their Manager or Captain they wouldn't find themselves in the game for very long.
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Post by craigjo on Mar 22, 2015 18:46:23 GMT 1
Hitting the left hand touch line from a goal kick is a tactic we have been using for a while now... The difference yesterday imo was that we didn't have Demetriou (who is extremely strong in the air and has a significant height advantage over young Sharpe) there to make this tactic work better. I think some suggestions of how many times this happened might be slightly over exaggerated by some.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 22, 2015 18:54:35 GMT 1
There's a bell end in block 16 who yells "FORWARD" in an annoying high-pitched voice whenever the defence or midfield get the ball. I've had enough. I'm going to move to the cheap seats just to get away from him. I would avoid the back of block 14, there's a couple, perhaps 3 who do nothing but get on the ref's / linesman's back whether they get it right or wrong in the most industrial way! Wouldn't mind but they seem to take great pleasure out of lambasting them at every opportunity not caring if kids are present or not..... yes it's a football match but the language seems to be chosen just to shock!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 18:59:24 GMT 1
No, I counted 4 consecutive goal kicks into touch before he switched to pumping it down the middle.
A couple more points.
Woods was one of our better performers yesterday and he should be commended for that considering every time he got on the ball two Oxford players closed him down. The only time he played what might be considered unnecessary balls backward was when we were down to 10 and he was attempting to keep possession. He showed a lot of maturity in difficult circumstances.
I don’t think we looked solid at all in defence, particularly down the left hand side. A team with a bit more nous up front would have punished us. We only started to look more solid when Demo came on and we went to two banks of four, and even then they got behind us which is unsurprising given the extra man. I don’t think we’ve looked solid since NKP’s injury and since then I sense we’ll always give a team a chance.
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Post by blazey on Mar 22, 2015 23:37:30 GMT 1
Considering we have absolutely everything to play for in the last 8 games the atmosphere lately has been strangely flat so I share MM and LLs frustration. Time to get behind them...
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 23, 2015 0:21:04 GMT 1
I've always thought it's a matter of loyalty. Monday morning, back in training for the players, concentrate on the next match. They've been paid anyway. Me? I don't have that outlet. Following the Tranmere/Cambridge games, I'm back to what I do for a living. I can't get it out of the system like they can. I'm still mulling over the last match. I take every poor performance to heart. If we've played well, I'm all hippity hoppity running all the good bits through the grey matter. Like most Town fans, I'd have given my right arm to play for the team that I've followed all my life.
No midweek game, so every single day, I'll remember a poor Oxford team running unopposed at our back four........
I did ring The Samaritans, but the lady asked me to ring up, as she said I was making her depressed.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Mar 23, 2015 11:01:45 GMT 1
sat in the east stand today. Have to say I have never heard such a negative crowd in my life!! Well that was probably me then. That was me shouting at Mellon. I'm working my arse off to get people to come to the Meddah. What a ruck of s****. I love to get behind the team, but it was a replay of Cambridge, where we scored and sat back without tackling. Where was the PASSION? A half decent team would have torn us up for arse paper. I was also worried about the lack of tackling, this is where Weso is badly missed. I don't think there was negativity where I was, simply frustration that the manager could not see that Sharpe was having a 'mare and needed to be subbed for his own good and concern that we appeared to be content to sit on a 1 goal lead for 84 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 13:07:03 GMT 1
sat in the east stand today. Have to say I have never heard such a negative crowd in my life!! Well that was probably me then. That was me shouting at Mellon. I'm working my arse off to get people to come to the Meddah. What a ruck of s**te. I love to get behind the team, but it was a replay of Cambridge, where we scored and sat back without tackling. Where was the PASSION? A half decent team would have torn us up for arse paper. I beg your pudding Sensational, I think in fact it was me.......... What a crock of poo on display Saturday. I thought Tranmere a few weeks back was the worst performance i had witnessed but this game surpassed even that bleak display. How Oxford lost that game they will never know, and a performance of that calibre will see us comfortably beaten at Portsmouth. We seemed unable to string any passes together, in particular Grant and the young lad from Derby were woeful at times. Not sure why we have gone off the boil in the past couple of months but I feel that the Championship is going to be beyond us, sadly.
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