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Post by atcham jack on Dec 14, 2014 18:39:14 GMT 1
if anyone missed question time or wants to see it again. tune into parliament programme at 18.00 hours this evening
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 14, 2014 19:19:13 GMT 1
Didn't live up to the hype IMO.
Russell Brand showed himself as the muppet he is.
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Post by shrewder on Dec 14, 2014 19:25:27 GMT 1
if anyone missed question time or wants to see it again. tune into parliament programme at 18.00 hours this evening Neither of them worth air time. Just s load of wodscollop!!!
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Post by Matster on Dec 14, 2014 22:02:14 GMT 1
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Post by TheFoz on Dec 14, 2014 22:07:59 GMT 1
Didn't live up to the hype.
Brand put over some good points.
About time the Green Party got more air time instead of the despicable UKIP.
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Post by jamo on Dec 14, 2014 22:08:04 GMT 1
Farage is what he is, a one dimensional fascist who spouts the same answers every time he's on the programme no matter what the question.
Brand made a complete hash of the opportunity and should probably steer clear of such programmes in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 22:15:31 GMT 1
Brand is the worst type of campaigner going, pays no tax , but chastises others for not contributing, but is also quick to let you know he has a bob or 2
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Post by shrewsace on Dec 14, 2014 22:49:31 GMT 1
Brand pays no tax? Are you alluding to The Sun's non-story about his landlord's tax arrangements?
He made a couple of good points, but agree with Jamo that he fluffed his moment a bit.
He actually looked a bit nervous.
Find it incredible The Times' Camilla Cavendish got away totally unchallenged for her 'the City is a great success story we should all be proud of' comment.
As for UKIP, more plants than Percy Thrower's!
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Post by jamo on Dec 14, 2014 23:01:51 GMT 1
Brand is the worst type of campaigner going, pays no tax , but chastises others for not contributing, but is also quick to let you know he has a bob or 2 Really ? Where did you read that ?
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Dec 14, 2014 23:03:50 GMT 1
I do chuckle at the plants the BBC put in the audience. Not only was the family of a UKIP member planted but also the vile SWP screamer Bunny Laroche who has more front than Brighton.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Dec 14, 2014 23:56:22 GMT 1
Downie in talking s**t shock.
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Post by mattmw on Dec 15, 2014 0:32:07 GMT 1
Question Time is a total waste of time now. It's just descended into sound bite comments by celebrity panelists there to sell their latest book; shouty people in the audience put there as they make good tv, and is terribly chaired by Dimbleby
Long way from the good show it was when Robin Day fronted the show.
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Post by Nath on Dec 15, 2014 0:40:27 GMT 1
Brand pays no tax? Are you alluding to The Sun's non-story about his landlord's tax arrangements? He made a couple of good points, but agree with Jamo that he fluffed his moment a bit. He actually looked a bit nervous. Find it incredible The Times' Camilla Cavendish got away totally unchallenged for her 'the City is a great success story we should all be proud of' comment. As for UKIP, more plants than Percy Thrower's! It is typical of the press to attack someone who challenges mainstream rhetoric. Brand pays his taxes, the Sun tried to run a headline last week claiming he pays rent to a company who don't pay tax which is what I think Downie is getting at. I have just finished his book 'Revolution' which is okay. If you want to 'dumb down' books such as Capital by Thomas Piketty then I would suggest Brand's book. He is not trying to be a Marxist or Ricardian, he is simply trying to get the voice of the majority heard. I don't think Brand did bad at all, I think his calmness was a tactic. He has been condemned for constant 'gobbledygook.' If you watched it, he simplified his vocab and slowed down to make his point easier to understand. I think his biggest let down was his answer given to the question by a UKIP MEPs brother. Otherwise, I think he generally came off quite well. Farage is a demagogue. Nothing more, nothing less. People claim Boris is purely an act, yet people fall for the Farage's act. I'm no fan of his but he too came off quite well. I think both were informed that they were expected to go at each other and I am quite glad that they didn't bring the show down to that level. I'm not Brand's biggest fan. I recognise the man's faults but I do agree with the principles of his book. It is quite annoying when people read headlines and quotations in popular newspapers and make their judgement on an individual that way. People will too easily dismiss Brand because he once made a phone call informing someone that their granddaughter was a '$!ut' yet they will still be willing to vote for a party that is full of sexist, racist and discriminatory MPs. As I said, Farage is a demagogue and it says a lot about the people who are willing to vote for such a party!
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Dec 15, 2014 9:48:01 GMT 1
Farage is what he is, a one dimensional fascist who spouts the same inane namby pamby cr@p Something about a pot and a kettle? The biggest 'fascists' of them all are people like you. I can only imagine the word fascist was the first word you uttered as a newborn. That and 'gimme', something that to this day you still use regularly to fleece your union members.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Dec 15, 2014 10:00:32 GMT 1
Farage had to do or say anything to know that the deliberate attempt by the BBC to set Brand upon him like a rabid dog went horribly wrong. That and the blue haired UAF scaghead in the audience. All Farage could do really was bat them away like a confident middle order batsman on the way to a century. Brand comparing Farage to Enoch Powell did it for me. If it was flattery Brand was implying then that was probably the only thing he delivered on the whole night but of course it wasn't. I don't know if any of you have ever seen the Harry and Paul Question Time sketch but I don't think it could be anymore fitting for last weeks debacle. Inane mumblings of 'Bankers, bankers, bankers' and 'Tories, Tories, Tories' without any substance whatsoever met with great applause from the usual BBC plants in the audience. It certainly didn't escape my attention that this was a desperate plug for Brand's upcoming BBC3 show on drug abuse, something that was advertised immediately after the show. To quote Alan Partridge, Brand is quite literally on the BBC gravy train. And this is after they supposedly sacked him . To think we're forced to pay for this sh*te...
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Post by atcham jack on Dec 15, 2014 19:23:02 GMT 1
worth pensioning dimbleby off and putting paxman in as chair. thought QT was pathetic apart from £shop enoch powell. was the tory womam mp a plant as well
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 18:43:24 GMT 1
Brand pays no tax? Are you alluding to The Sun's non-story about his landlord's tax arrangements? It is typical of the press to attack someone who challenges mainstream rhetoric. Brand pays his taxes, the Sun tried to run a headline last week claiming he pays rent to a company who don't pay tax which is what I think Downie is getting at. No I was more on about the financial side of his film company that is funded through a company that uses the system for tax avoidance, but as someone who I cant be bothered to look back at states I am talkin s**t, its obviously a load of crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 18:53:12 GMT 1
The Sun has had it in for Brand seemingly ever since he stopped writing a column in it's Newspaper. Strange that.
I reckon his misses Jo should join in next time
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 18:59:38 GMT 1
worth pensioning dimbleby off and putting paxman in as chair. thought QT was pathetic apart from £shop enoch powell. was the tory womam mp a plant as well I would go further and put QT out to grass, it is no longer the serious political programme it once was...
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Post by jamo on Dec 16, 2014 19:18:23 GMT 1
worth pensioning dimbleby off and putting paxman in as chair. thought QT was pathetic apart from £shop enoch powell. was the tory womam mp a plant as well I would go further and put QT out to grass, it is no longer the serious political programme it once was... I think that's right. A real shame because back when it actually meant something it was the only show of its kind that was worth watching. The dumbing down of the participants ( and I include Brand in that ) has seriously weakened its status and also going from the tried and tested formula of 4 guests to 5 , which inevitably waters down the contributions made no sense to me at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 19:41:23 GMT 1
The Politicians with a bit of clout avoid it and leave it to Celebrities and Politicians who want to get on telly to revive their career. It certainly has a place on TV and should be kept as a service to give the public a voice to question those with power. They do need to find away of vetting the questioners so we can have as genuine an audience as possible. The DM and Right wing are constantly barracking the BBC for placing Liberals in the audience, yet in the run up to the 2010 elections there was clearly David Cameron & George Osbourne supporting lookalikes among the young Tory's in the crowd( Where have they gone to?) they were even placed in BBC Wales' Montgomeryshire debate.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Dec 16, 2014 20:17:10 GMT 1
Farage is what he is, a one dimensional fascist who spouts the same answers every time he's on the programme no matter what the question. Brand made a complete hash of the opportunity and should probably steer clear of such programmes in the future. in your opinion
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