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Post by Matster on Nov 18, 2014 19:47:45 GMT 1
Personally I can't understand the following:- (1) Why anyone would drink alcohol? (2) Why anyone would want to drink alcohol in a pub? (3) Why people can't enjoy themselves without the need for an alcoholic drink? EDIT: Forgot to add "but that's just me" But on the other hand you do get through an awful lot of cigars. I can see what you did there
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 14:49:06 GMT 1
But on the other hand you do get through an awful lot of cigars. I can see what you did there Used to but not smoked for a couple of years now.
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Post by atcham jack on Nov 19, 2014 14:55:48 GMT 1
the defeat of the government bill yesterday means pubco tenants no longer have to buy their ales at maximum price through pubcos and are free to but the cheapest ales. as a result pubco shares slumped today1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 19:45:06 GMT 1
Personally I can't understand the following:- (1) Why anyone would drink alcohol? (2) Why anyone would want to drink alcohol in a pub? (3) Why people can't enjoy themselves without the need for an alcoholic drink? EDIT: Forgot to add "but that's just me" 1. To relax. 2. To socalise. In addition to 1 & 2 it's their choice to do so. 3. They can. Tell me who cannot? Why don't you think people can enjoy themselves without booze? How do you enjoy yourself? Keep the answer in context within a family forum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 8:52:15 GMT 1
Personally I can't understand the following:- (1) Why anyone would drink alcohol? (2) Why anyone would want to drink alcohol in a pub? (3) Why people can't enjoy themselves without the need for an alcoholic drink? EDIT: Forgot to add "but that's just me" 1. To relax. 2. To socalise. In addition to 1 & 2 it's their choice to do so. 3. They can. Tell me who cannot? Why don't you think people can enjoy themselves without booze? How do you enjoy yourself? Keep the answer in context within a family forum. How do I enjoy myself? Usually in the company of others enjoying the activity that I am doing at that time. It could be cycling, walking, swimming, watching a film or a play. Much the same as anyone else. I just do it sober. Many on here complained about the fact that there is no supporters bar at the club. Many on here talk about which pubs they should visit on away matches. Many get to the matches on buses run from local pubs. It would appear a percentage of Town fans can't enjoy a match without a drink. But it's a free country and they can do as they please within the law.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 15:51:15 GMT 1
1. To relax. 2. To socalise. In addition to 1 & 2 it's their choice to do so. 3. They can. Tell me who cannot? Why don't you think people can enjoy themselves without booze? How do you enjoy yourself? Keep the answer in context within a family forum. How do I enjoy myself? Usually in the company of others enjoying the activity that I am doing at that time. It could be cycling, walking, swimming, watching a film or a play. Much the same as anyone else. I just do it sober. Many on here complained about the fact that there is no supporters bar at the club. Many on here talk about which pubs they should visit on away matches. Many get to the matches on buses run from local pubs. It would appear a percentage of Town fans can't enjoy a match without a drink. But it's a free country and they can do as they please within the law. When did you start watching football? What era do you think was best for atmosphere 60's, 80's or 2010's? How would you try to bring fans together prior to a match in an attempt to create new song's? I support some of your viewpoints on alcohol. But how can British society move from the Pub ? Having a drink goes hand in hand with almost every major sporting event and celebrating each milestone from conception/birth to death revolves around having a drink and a meeting within an establishment serving it. A couple of the hobbies you list are an excuse or an opportunity to have a drink. I attend Comedy Club's (B & A should open one) gig's far more than Night Club's these days on a weekend yet not essential a drink does enhance the evening.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 16:40:48 GMT 1
How do I enjoy myself? Usually in the company of others enjoying the activity that I am doing at that time. It could be cycling, walking, swimming, watching a film or a play. Much the same as anyone else. I just do it sober. Many on here complained about the fact that there is no supporters bar at the club. Many on here talk about which pubs they should visit on away matches. Many get to the matches on buses run from local pubs. It would appear a percentage of Town fans can't enjoy a match without a drink. But it's a free country and they can do as they please within the law. When did you start watching football? What era do you think was best for atmosphere 60's, 80's or 2010's? How would you try to bring fans together prior to a match in an attempt to create new song's? I support some of your viewpoints on alcohol. But how can British society move from the Pub ? Having a drink goes hand in hand with almost every major sporting event and celebrating each milestone from conception/birth to death revolves around having a drink and a meeting within an establishment serving it. A couple of the hobbies you list are an excuse or an opportunity to have a drink. I attend Comedy Club's (B & A should open one) gig's far more than Night Club's these days on a weekend yet not essential a drink does enhance the evening. I started watching football when I was about 9 years old. My choice to stop drinking came in 2009 when I was working in London. Usually a colleague and I would finish at 5:30pm stop at a pub before the tube have a pint. Get back to the hotel have a pint in the bar. Then get ready for dinner. Have a pint before dinner. Then one with dinner. Then a post dinner nightcap. So it all got too much for me as I was drinking to keep up with others. I just decided I wasn't going to drink for a month. Then it turned into 2 and just never looked back from then. My main issue is that people do drink to excess as on the few occasions I have been out in town on a saturday night some of the alcohol induced behaviour is appalling. I often meet up with a few friends for a bike ride on a sunday morning. We meet in the town centre and I often find that revellers have often left "Pavement Pizzas" I have no problem with people enjoying a tipple at a social occasion or with a meal but it's clear many can't. As for alcohol with football well you don't need it to feel an affinity with your fellow fans. You don't need to have a few drinks to enjoy a film with others. I would go so far as to say that it would probably ruin your enjoyment of some films. I like to keep my wits. Maybe I am a control freak?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 17:06:41 GMT 1
When did you start watching football? What era do you think was best for atmosphere 60's, 80's or 2010's? How would you try to bring fans together prior to a match in an attempt to create new song's? I support some of your viewpoints on alcohol. But how can British society move from the Pub ? Having a drink goes hand in hand with almost every major sporting event and celebrating each milestone from conception/birth to death revolves around having a drink and a meeting within an establishment serving it. A couple of the hobbies you list are an excuse or an opportunity to have a drink. I attend Comedy Club's (B & A should open one) gig's far more than Night Club's these days on a weekend yet not essential a drink does enhance the evening. I started watching football when I was about 9 years old. My choice to stop drinking came in 2009 when I was working in London. Usually a colleague and I would finish at 5:30pm stop at a pub before the tube have a pint. Get back to the hotel have a pint in the bar. Then get ready for dinner. Have a pint before dinner. Then one with dinner. Then a post dinner nightcap. So it all got too much for me as I was drinking to keep up with others. I just decided I wasn't going to drink for a month. Then it turned into 2 and just never looked back from then. My main issue is that people do drink to excess as on the few occasions I have been out in town on a saturday night some of the alcohol induced behaviour is appalling. I often meet up with a few friends for a bike ride on a sunday morning. We meet in the town centre and I often find that revellers have often left "Pavement Pizzas" I have no problem with people enjoying a tipple at a social occasion or with a meal but it's clear many can't. As for alcohol with football well you don't need it to feel an affinity with your fellow fans. You don't need to have a few drinks to enjoy a film with others. I would go so far as to say that it would probably ruin your enjoyment of some films. I like to keep my wits. Maybe I am a control freak? Perhaps you could be the catalyst to create something unique. A creative supporters group that can get together without it being Pub related. Families and children would welcome this. Alcohol free Coaches to away games that do not revolve around starting at Pub, stopping on the way at one, or one being the pre/post match choice when there. The only issue with organised groups is they are rarely spontaneous meetings and are not as conducive for originality. I do think though that fewer supporters meeting up during the week or before the match could be the reason for the atmosphere at grounds not being as good as they were and certainly a reason for songs all over the Country being copied off the telly and You Tube more and more by supporters rather than Club unique ones being passed on through the Pub or social Club. Remember how many Club's were actually formed in a Pub. Perhaps in keeping with the original topic. Wetherspoons seeing off a lot of traditional locals has added to the lack of community spirit the ''local'' created. You are far more likely to be relaxed(with or without a drink) in a Pub with people you know debating Football and then singing about it. In Wetherspoons you get kicked out for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:01:24 GMT 1
1. To relax. 2. To socalise. In addition to 1 & 2 it's their choice to do so. 3. They can. Tell me who cannot? Why don't you think people can enjoy themselves without booze? How do you enjoy yourself? Keep the answer in context within a family forum. How do I enjoy myself? Usually in the company of others enjoying the activity that I am doing at that time. It could be cycling, walking, swimming, watching a film or a play. Much the same as anyone else. I just do it sober. Many on here complained about the fact that there is no supporters bar at the club. Many on here talk about which pubs they should visit on away matches. Many get to the matches on buses run from local pubs. It would appear a percentage of Town fans can't enjoy a match without a drink. But it's a free country and they can do as they please within the law. Go to most sporting events and people will be drinking before and after, as we know there are plenty of sports which also allow you to drink throughout but not at the football. In terms of why, I honestly dont know but its just the social norm really, from my perspective a day at the football is a day and not just 90 minutes. Its not a case of getting drunk (of course sometimes I do) but its the social side, meeting up before/after, if I went just for 90 minutes then frankly it would be a depressing experience, not so much this season but certainly the last couple of seasons. In fact the only reason I renewed my season ticket was on the basis of the social side and its an opportunity to meet up with mates. Ive already said its not limited to football but equally its not limited to sporting events, go to a gig and people are drinking before/after, go to the theatre and people are drinking before/after, go the cinema and people are having a drink, go for a meal and have a few drinks before/during/after, etc etc. Football is no different to the rest of society really
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