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Post by MartinB on Sept 27, 2014 18:02:12 GMT 1
Poor today, so were Southend who time wasted for early one. Stupid sending off but referee was looking for it.
Should have been 0-0 but we switched off at the start
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 27, 2014 18:08:08 GMT 1
Cross into the area - their guy jumped, Connpr didn't - one nil. Loads of possession but too many times the final ball lacked quality. Woods played well and Gayle looked like a rabbit caught in headlights.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Sept 27, 2014 18:43:18 GMT 1
Back to Suffolk - my third away trip of the season - three defeats, no goals!
Was behind the line of their goal. Perhaps Leutwiler was a little flat footed but was a really excellent header so maybe unfair to criticise.
Other than that Southend weren't brilliant but did shade the game. They looked incisive and were always quick to move the ball and I can see them winning plenty of games this season. Town on the otherhand were ponderous and largely bereft of ideas. The fluidity of earlier in the season has ebbed away and we're looking increasingly desperate game by game. Far too many long balls, nowhere near enough width and a real lack of quality in the final third. Collins had a poor game and looking increasingly frustrated.
Woods was his usual industrious self and prob our best outfield player - that said, whilst he saw lots of the ball he did very little with it.
Leutwiler made a couple of very good close range saves and, being fair, was little he could do about the goal so he shades my MOM vote.
sending off was harsh for me - the ball was there to be challenged for, the keeper stepped forward and they jumped together and collided. For me not a yellow but I can see why it was given.
All in all a pretty bad day at the office - need to arrest our away form soon otherwise we'll be (at best) chasing the play offs
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 20:56:47 GMT 1
Gayle was poor. I felt he was at fault for the goal - no challenge for the header and no communicatin to pass the man onto the centre half. In addition Dimetriou should have done better preventing the cross - not a good day for the fullbacks!
Overall a pretty scrappy game. Southend wasted time willingly in the second half to protect their lead. Somewhat cynical but sometimes needs to be done.
Mangan's second yellow was just a little stupid IMO. Given how the ref had been with his cards in the second half, it was suicide to go in for that ball - let's be honest there was no way he would beat the keeper to the ball meaning there was just one result.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 7:37:13 GMT 1
Mangan got what he deserved. Having seen it at the match, I thought it was a stupid challenge for someone to make on a yellow card. Looks even more stupid on the TV replay.
Thought Southend were a decent side. Had better opportunities than us and professionaly played down the clock. Only what we would have tried to do and probably without their success.
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Post by heavyglow on Sept 28, 2014 10:31:11 GMT 1
Several things annoyed me about this match.
1. The way we seem to get a hard on stroking it from side to side with no apparent idea about what the end game is. Looks wonderful but not incredible for chance generation.
2. The three or four good chances Southend created from simple crosses into the area. Most of them were from Coulhirst or A.N. Other being let go by Connor who then proceeded to berate the defence for his failings.
3. The moronic Andy Mangan always seems on the verge of doing something daft without enough of a talent upside as some of these genuine mercurial players have. His sending off was loserous and he reaffirmed my belief that he's a berk of the highest order. I appreciate some get a raging semi over his top boy lid and inability to walk two paces without casting his phlegm far and wide, but he's certainly not a favourite of mine.
4. The chap stood behind me who got ejected about 20 minutes in either is an utter or behaved like an utter due to drink. Turned up, couldn't stand properly with his alarming involuntary swaying and made some bizarre vocal offerings. If Mallett was there then this chap would have him look like Socrates. A warranted ejection for slapping the gent a few rows in front for no reason.
All in all not a good day. That's the second consecutive league match we've had someone kicked out, after the Stevenage Toilet Toucher.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Sept 28, 2014 11:15:31 GMT 1
Just seen the sending off on the football league show - I stand corrected, a nailed on yellow.
silly, silly boy
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Post by shrewforever on Sept 28, 2014 12:00:24 GMT 1
Stowmarket Shrew said quote................... "Woods was his usual industrious self and prob our best outfield player - that said, whilst he saw lots of the ball he did very little with it."....
Best outfield player for me, Knight Percival, but only by virtue of being best of a bad bunch yesterday,...........rest of quote I agree with totally.
Don't get me wrong I think Woodsy is a great talent who I believe will have a good career in the game, but I do feel after an excellent start to the season with many well deserved MOM awards, that his form has dropped over a few games recently and he is not performing lately to his usual high standards.
Am talking here about his creativity, the defence splitting pass, the end product of all the effort, call it what you will.
Yes he is always busy, industrious, quick footed, has a hell of a lot of the ball, and is totally committed but I have found myself of late saying "hang on what has he actually created for all that , and as Stowmarket Shrew says with reference to yesterday...... very little".
Anyway its a Team game and always will be and as a Team yesterday we were not at the races and got exactly what we deserved for collectively playing like that.....nothing.
Best forgotten, its history, we all know we can and have played a hell of a lot better and will again.
So with only 36 games to go or a mere 108 points left to play for "Am I boverred?", no not in the slightest, promotion and playoff places, one of which we currently hold by the way even in view of our pretty dreadful away form, are decided in May, not September, so COYB........
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Sept 28, 2014 15:37:46 GMT 1
I don't agree with mellons comment about us being more aggressive yesterday. How can you be aggressive with a ref like that.
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Post by Eric Rex on Sept 28, 2014 15:45:00 GMT 1
Just got back after an extended stay in Essex.
There was little to get excited about yesterday. The game burst into life with the early goal and there were shots flying in at both ends throughout the first 15 mins. After that the game tightened up and we didnt really have much to shout about.
The best chance of us scoring seemed to be from a corner which is a bit disappointing. Southend were set up with quick players up top to play on the break from the start and losing that goal as we did so early mustve been a Phil Brown wet dream. From my perspective it was an odd one to give Coulthirst the MoM given he missed the two best chances of the game. I thought Deegan as a defensive midfielder and Prosser at the back in particular had great games.
Mangan- what the hell was he thinking? He didnt even look at the ball once when he was spearing into their keeper and got what he deserved.
Also an honourable mention to the toilets flooded with p**s and the canteen that was so much like a community centre feel that i thought there was going to be a rapping workshop or a OAPs dance class breaking out at any moment. That said, it was still a good away day and a character filled ground.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 29, 2014 12:00:59 GMT 1
I don't agree with mellons comment about us being more aggressive yesterday. How can you be aggressive with a ref like that. You can't. If Mangan had been given a talking to instead of the first yellow (like Woodsy on Tuesday) it may have calmed him down and the yellow wouldn't have been such a disaster. however, three points: couldn't see the first incident - was it serious? if we need to be aggressive - well just how aggressive do you need to be? I suspect refs learning to control a game and giving warnings first only comes with experience - vicious circle then, to get experience you need games, someone has to be the game where the experience is gained and so on ......
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Sept 29, 2014 19:02:06 GMT 1
Mangan really let the team down on Saturday, there's no two ways about it. Heavyglow called it "moronic," which is pretty much spot on. The first yellow was a tad harsh but he knew the referee was chucking around cards like confetti, and yet still chose to charge around leaving a foot in. And the second yellow, deary me - inexcusable. Couple that with his insistence on consistently taking needless extra touches, in what I can only assume is an attempt to show off and prove how much better he is than us, and he's really starting to get on my nerves. A shame, as he's undoubtedly a talented player.
A frustrating afternoon all round really. Even with the goal going in so early it always felt like it was going to be too much for us to recover from, and so it proved. Like a lot of our games, we had a fair amount of the ball in dangerous areas of the pitch and yet never really looked like doing much with it. Woods was great yet again, but it almost feels like when he's on the ball the rest of the team switch off as if they're expecting him to do the rest himself. Four or five times in the second half he found himself in a bit of space in their half, with no-one trying to create any space in front of him.
I'm still confident we'll get there in the end, but that's three away games in a row where we've been mediocre at best without getting on the scoresheet.
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