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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 20, 2014 7:32:19 GMT 1
Are you enjoying supporting the Town more this season even though were in a lower league than last season?
Big fish in a small pond and all that?
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 20, 2014 7:35:04 GMT 1
I am enjoying having a team of adequate permanent players but I don't like the quality of the league, small away followings or the poor officials.
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Post by atcham jack on Aug 20, 2014 8:10:12 GMT 1
this has to be better than bottom feeding amongst the flotsam and jetsom of league 1. should we get promo, different plan needed if MM still with us.
the way town are playing deserves Gates of 5k and 6k for derbies. Bring on Leicester and Preston, and save up for cup runs. investing £2 tonight on a lotto rollover may help. 6,14, 22,33,34, 45 may help! Floreat Salopia! AJ!
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Post by shrewder on Aug 20, 2014 8:18:36 GMT 1
Very pleasing how season is going so far. As has been already said, the standard of opposition so far means we don't know yet just how good this team is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 8:39:38 GMT 1
If you are not competitive the novelty of playing in a league with some big teams soon wears off.
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Post by Slackbladder on Aug 20, 2014 8:59:07 GMT 1
I'm enjoying having a competitive, skilful team of players who want to play for each other and the club. Also enjoying going to games thinking we might win rather than just hoping for something. The downsides are numerous - the atmosphere last night was like a morgue, the officials have been pretty weak in general and the opposition teams negative tactics is going to wear a bit thin (unless we keep managing to overcome them)
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Aug 21, 2014 13:01:41 GMT 1
A squad of our own players playing tidy football.
Give me that any day of the week and in any division you like after the dirge that was served up last year.
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Post by atcham jack on Aug 21, 2014 17:19:26 GMT 1
I shall be glad when transfer window closes in case of late dealing in our stars.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 21, 2014 18:10:28 GMT 1
I am greatly enjoying the regular photos and videos on a daily basis. It's a massive improvement.
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Post by Dale on Aug 21, 2014 18:43:48 GMT 1
The thing that probably annoys me more than anything is the lack of 'local' clubs to us in League 2.
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Post by shrewed46 on Aug 21, 2014 19:10:40 GMT 1
Good Grief NO. After watching the dross served up over recent seasons, we now have a team without a loan player, playing competitive attractive football and I'm 200 miles away and even the internet is intermittent, whats there to enjoy and guess what when I get to watch them at Stevenage they'll play badly and all I'll be able to do is complain and the Paul will come up with the old chestnut that I only post when they are losing. Lets just hope the winning continues.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 19:34:41 GMT 1
Without bringing in the Anti Tuner stuff, the short answer is yes I am thoroughly enjoying it, Now I know that people say that Turner is water under the bridge, but people are stating about atmosphere going down in the last 2 years, WHY, root of the problem resigned.
Proudsalopian stating that I keep going on about his age and unable to attract players and so on, well regardless, its true, look at our bench on Tue night, all of them would have breezed into our team last season, Our best performing defender so far was being dropped for Tam and Winfield and then being sent on loan to Cheltenham. This team would survive in L1 with ease.
Yes I am over GT and fully looking forward to the remaining games of this season, which I think will be a breeze, but I will not forget what happened for the last 2 seasons.
Mickey Mellon is doing a great job, supported well by the Chairman. and long may it continue, but it will take more than 3 or 4 decent opening games, and lets be honest, the 4 games so far have been against pretty poor opposition apart from Tranmere, who are the only side I would expect to get a top half finish, and Blackpool are a shambles at the moment and it was a good time to play them, until we get back the 1000 or so supporters we have lost in the last 2 years, and then the atmosphere will return also.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 19:39:16 GMT 1
Are you enjoying supporting the Town more this season even though were in a lower league than last season? Big fish in a small pond and all that? Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 23:42:50 GMT 1
Too early to tell. We've had false dawns before under the likes of Simpson and Peters so i'm not going to get carried away. Mellon has got a long way to before he repeats the success we had under GT two season's ago and if he does get us up are people going to turn on him if things start going array in league 1 like they did with GT.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Aug 22, 2014 0:46:52 GMT 1
Certainly makes it easier to maintain interest from afar when there is reasonable chance of getting decent results and challenging at the right end of the league. Having a squad of our own players all drafted in during the summer is also very nice for me as I feel I can grow to know them through match reports and of course all the chat on here - far too many ins and outs and so much chopping and changing last season, I really couldn't be bothered to follow it in any detail.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 8:38:57 GMT 1
Good Grief NO. After watching the dross served up over recent seasons, we now have a team without a loan player, playing competitive attractive football and I'm 200 miles away and even the internet is intermittent, whats there to enjoy and guess what when I get to watch them at Stevenage they'll play badly and all I'll be able to do is complain and the Paul will come up with the old chestnut that I only post when they are losing. Lets just hope the winning continues. With your recent personality transplant it's more likely that your internet will trip out when MM hits a poor spell because in your eyes he can do no wrong, simply because he is not GT. The irony is that you put people down on here that suggested that MJ should not be our new manager so MM seems to be proving you wrong with the passing of every week. In my view he must have found the blueprint for promotion GT left in his desk because playing 442 with a settled defence and exciting wide players doesn't seem a million miles away from the way GT succeeded where so many before him had failed. Next you'll see he will be switching the dugouts ..... Oh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 8:53:04 GMT 1
Always enjoy supporting Town whether thick or thin.
Obviously better when we are winning and the early signs look very promising indeed.
I am however concerned about the attendances (last game we played against Accrington in promotion season was also on a Tuesday night in late October in front of 5,076 fans) and certainly the Accrington atmosphere was dire. I have never witnessed a 4-0 win in such an underwhelming atmosphere. During my 45 minute wait to buy a ticket!!!!! I missed the first goal and was surprised at the low level of noise emanating from the stadium as I stood arguing with the Ticket man.!
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Post by shrewder on Aug 22, 2014 9:15:23 GMT 1
Its important to realise that whilst the season has got off to a great start that the law of averages says there wool be setbacks along the way. When these happen I hope some fans don't start pressing the panic button and we end up with confidence being undermined and a downward spiral.
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Post by shrewder on Aug 22, 2014 9:16:27 GMT 1
Sorryy "will"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 9:22:36 GMT 1
As Forrest Gump once said when addressing a supporters meeting 'supporting Town is like opening a box of chocolates, you never what your gonna get' Amen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 10:02:33 GMT 1
So far this season, yes,but then again I enjoyed it at this stage and beyond ,last season. If we had played well with a pattern and formation last season, and still got relegated, I would have enjoyed the season because it entailed watching my team play football. Unfortunately watching the Town last season was like watching a load of strangers running around in a haphazard fashion whilst an old man stood on the side ,occasionally shouting at them . What he shouted I don,t know, probably telling them to keep off the grass.
I just wish more passion was shown by the fans, more fans turned up at games and we played against better footballing sides, because the standard of this League and League 1 is considerable.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 22, 2014 15:03:03 GMT 1
It's good to see Town winning of course and we are bound to see more of that this season but I was brought up at a time when Town were very much the underdog going up against must wealthier opposition a division or two higher. And its that that I enjoy most. So whilst nice to be back at a level I know we can compete at, I'm a little impatient to get back up to the 3rd and give that a go again (even if it does mean we'll not win as many games)...
Enjoy it whilst it lasts but I do hope it's not for too long...
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Post by Matster on Aug 22, 2014 17:05:49 GMT 1
After Tuesdays win, another decent win or two and with a good showing at home would help bring some of the looser fans back to watch.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 22, 2014 18:07:32 GMT 1
So far the season feels a bit like the Conference season in so much as we have a almost totally new team, are quite a big fish in a small pond and have made a decent start to the campaign
Agree with others though that it somehow feels a little false. I'm not sure whether that's because being a big fish club doesn't really feel right as a Town fan; or that history suggests we'll somehow find a way to make the season a stressful struggle
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Post by Matster on Aug 22, 2014 18:28:08 GMT 1
Agree with others though that it somehow feels a little false. I'm not sure whether that's because being a big fish club doesn't really feel right as a Town fan; or that history suggests well somehow find a way to make the season a stressful struggle The clocks haven't gone back yet, historically we seem to flounder when they do.
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Post by shrewed46 on Aug 22, 2014 18:46:23 GMT 1
Good Grief NO. After watching the dross served up over recent seasons, we now have a team without a loan player, playing competitive attractive football and I'm 200 miles away and even the internet is intermittent, whats there to enjoy and guess what when I get to watch them at Stevenage they'll play badly and all I'll be able to do is complain and the Paul will come up with the old chestnut that I only post when they are losing. Lets just hope the winning continues. With your recent personality transplant it's more likely that your internet will trip out when MM hits a poor spell because in your eyes he can do no wrong, simply because he is not GT. The irony is that you put people down on here that suggested that MJ should not be our new manager so MM seems to be proving you wrong with the passing of every week. In my view he must have found the blueprint for promotion GT left in his desk because playing 442 with a settled defence and exciting wide players doesn't seem a million miles away from the way GT succeeded where so many before him had failed. Next you'll see he will be switching the dugouts ..... Oh Oh dear Paul you seem to have forgotten to take you're chill pill. Well maybe you'd like to enlighten most fans and tell us what MM has done wrong. The one blueprint he definitely hasn't found, thankfully, is how to loan a new player every week and how to get rid of him 4 weeks down the track. I guess you must be finding it difficult to watch a team that is not here just for the next 4 weeks but will be here next season as well. I guess different managers go about their task in different ways, to para-phase "the manager has gone fans support the manager".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 19:28:39 GMT 1
With your recent personality transplant it's more likely that your internet will trip out when MM hits a poor spell because in your eyes he can do no wrong, simply because he is not GT. The irony is that you put people down on here that suggested that MJ should not be our new manager so MM seems to be proving you wrong with the passing of every week. In my view he must have found the blueprint for promotion GT left in his desk because playing 442 with a settled defence and exciting wide players doesn't seem a million miles away from the way GT succeeded where so many before him had failed. Next you'll see he will be switching the dugouts ..... Oh Oh dear Paul you seem to have forgotten to take you're chill pill. Well maybe you'd like to enlighten most fans and tell us what MM has done wrong. The one blueprint he definitely hasn't found, thankfully, is how to loan a new player every week and how to get rid of him 4 weeks down the track. I guess you must be finding it difficult to watch a team that is not here just for the next 4 weeks but will be here next season as well. I guess different managers go about their task in different ways, to para-phase "the manager has gone fans support the manager". Ha, MM has done absolutely nothing wrong much like GT in his promotion season, hence my comparison and hence my surprise at how you treat them so differently. I think most posters would agree you would be telling us how poor Blackpool and Accy were and how lucky we were against Tranmere if GT had overseen the recent run. And for the record, loan signings accounted for the equivalent of one player's worth of appearances in our promotion season, not as if facts ever play much of a part in your ramblings. MM has his own style, a style I like very much but it's clear he's replicating many of the good things that GT did in his first two seasons with us. Hopefully he is convincing you that there were better options than Jackson, despite your views to the contrary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 23:04:35 GMT 1
Oh dear Paul you seem to have forgotten to take you're chill pill. Well maybe you'd like to enlighten most fans and tell us what MM has done wrong. The one blueprint he definitely hasn't found, thankfully, is how to loan a new player every week and how to get rid of him 4 weeks down the track. I guess you must be finding it difficult to watch a team that is not here just for the next 4 weeks but will be here next season as well. I guess different managers go about their task in different ways, to para-phase "the manager has gone fans support the manager". Ha, MM has done absolutely nothing wrong much like GT in his promotion season, hence my comparison and hence my surprise at how you treat them so differently. I think most posters would agree you would be telling us how poor Blackpool and Accy were and how lucky we were against Tranmere if GT had overseen the recent run. And for the record, loan signings accounted for the equivalent of one player's worth of appearances in our promotion season, not as if facts ever play much of a part in your ramblings. MM has his own style, a style I like very much but it's clear he's replicating many of the good things that GT did in his first two seasons with us. Hopefully he is convincing you that there were better options than Jackson, despite your views to the contrary. I wouldn't bother trying reason with shrewd46 Paul. It's impossible. GT had a settled squad 2011/12 in div 2 and got us promoted. Mellon seems to have a similar well assembled division 2 squad but if he does he get us promoted is that squad going to disappear to the hills as Turners squad did at the beginning of 2012/13. Mellon may well have to fall back on loanees aswell come the time. It was miracle we stayed up that season but without effective recruitment pre 2013/14 then safety was always going to be difficult. I happen to think that we would've stopped up if GT had stayed but he couldn't carry on nannying the club forever so maybe it was time to let someone else have a go. Shame he left it to Jackson though!! Rather he'd called it a day at the end of last season in the hope that he'd kept us up giving someone like Mellon with Rolands renewed backing a good crack of division 1. Last season was painful but better sticking with the pain at a higher level in the hope of bettering ourselves than yo yoing between division one and two.
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Post by shrewed46 on Aug 23, 2014 7:21:26 GMT 1
Oh my Lord you and Paul seem to have erased from memory the last two seasons.
Paul, I'd love to comment on the Tranmere and Accrington games but as I wasn't there I'll let you write my reports, you obviously know what I'd have said. I'd be interested when was the last time we had an 18 man match day squad which was all our own players I suspect it is many managers ago.
There is little point in reiterating the problems of the last two seasons most fans are only too aware of the failings of the management team. But it is worth pointing out that if MM gets us promoted this season, which I'm sure we all hope, the majority of the team are contracted for next season, unlike Turner's promotion team.
As for Jackson surely no new manager has ever received such a poisoned chalice than the one he received, the timing of Turner's departure could not have been worse, the squad was limited in the extreme yes someone with better contacts might have done better but we will never know but one thing I am sure of was that with his record of player recruitment over 4 transfer windows Turner was not the man to save us.
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Post by Matster on Aug 23, 2014 8:48:44 GMT 1
With the squad that got us promoted, were most with us the season before? We almost got promoted the 10-11 season and if we had then the majority of the players would've been on another year's contract in league one. History wouldve been somewhat different for GT in league one if that'd been the case.
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