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Aug 19, 2014 22:33:41 GMT 1
Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Aug 19, 2014 22:33:41 GMT 1
What has happened to him? He hasn't been on the bench since the Wimbledon match and he probably would have torn Accrington apart tonight
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wildig
Aug 19, 2014 22:36:43 GMT 1
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 19, 2014 22:36:43 GMT 1
He was there tonight suited up in the rw stand as I saw him walking down the front at half time. Don't know where he was sat though as he didn't seem to be behind the bench unlike others - as he walked past block 2
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Aug 19, 2014 22:40:51 GMT 1
Post by vanner on Aug 19, 2014 22:40:51 GMT 1
Looked great on the ball last year and played well but won't get much of a look atm unless our form goes seriously downhill. Shame as I rate him highly.
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Aug 19, 2014 22:45:53 GMT 1
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 19, 2014 22:45:53 GMT 1
Ex managers signing always going to be over looks for new signing in general. He will get his chance he just needs to work hard and hope.
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Aug 19, 2014 22:49:47 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 22:49:47 GMT 1
Ex managers signing always going to be over looks for new signing in general. He will get his chance he just needs to work hard and hope. Isn't Woods one of the players who have put him down the pecking order?
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Aug 19, 2014 22:51:15 GMT 1
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 19, 2014 22:51:15 GMT 1
Yes hence the "in general" bit :-).
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 19, 2014 22:54:06 GMT 1
Victim of regime change I'm afraid. Showed he could mix it in L1 last season but currently 4th choice centre mid at the moment. It's almost criminal that he cannot make the bench but one injury or a transfer bid for Woods and he could be back in the frame.
A-A and Mangan their chance tonight. Guys like Aaron, Macca and Jermaine must do the same when the opportunity presents itself.
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Aug 19, 2014 23:18:10 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 23:18:10 GMT 1
Victim of regime change I'm afraid. Showed he could mix it in L1 last season but currently 4th choice centre mid at the moment. It's almost criminal that he cannot make the bench but one injury or a transfer bid for Woods and he could be back in the frame. A-A and Mangan their chance tonight. Guys like Aaron, Macca and Jermaine must do the same when the opportunity presents itself. MM backed up his statement about having a 1st team squad not a first XI tonight by resting/dropping players who fans might have thought were automatic picks.
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Aug 20, 2014 3:10:37 GMT 1
Post by eggyshrew on Aug 20, 2014 3:10:37 GMT 1
Victim of regime change I'm afraid. Showed he could mix it in L1 last season but currently 4th choice centre mid at the moment. It's almost criminal that he cannot make the bench but one injury or a transfer bid for Woods and he could be back in the frame. A-A and Mangan their chance tonight. Guys like Aaron, Macca and Jermaine must do the same when the opportunity presents itself. Spot on Mark With the League cup and JPT coming up lets hope we get to see him recapture the form of early last season.
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Aug 20, 2014 6:41:39 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 6:41:39 GMT 1
Heard last night Wildig still not fully recovered from his injury and had a recurrence after playing in friendly and in training
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Aug 20, 2014 7:59:23 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 7:59:23 GMT 1
Heard last night Wildig still not fully recovered from his injury and had a recurrence after playing in friendly and in training Strange how he was named as sub for first couple of games then ... He was rated highly by GT and MJ and I just think MM has a more realistic view of him
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Aug 20, 2014 10:40:09 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 10:40:09 GMT 1
Heard last night Wildig still not fully recovered from his injury and had a recurrence after playing in friendly and in training Strange how he was named as sub for first couple of games then ... He was rated highly by GT and MJ and I just think MM has a more realistic view of him Maybe, but I heard he was about 80% fit when named on the bench and has had a further reaction in training. We shall see, he is a good player and one of our best last season in League 1 so not quite sure where the "realistic view" comes from. His opportunity will come during the season!
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Post by lenny on Aug 20, 2014 11:03:05 GMT 1
Strange how he was named as sub for first couple of games then ... He was rated highly by GT and MJ and I just think MM has a more realistic view of him Maybe, but I heard he was about 80% fit when named on the bench and has had a further reaction in training. We shall see, he is a good player and one of our best last season in League 1 so not quite sure where the "realistic view" comes from. His opportunity will come during the season! Paul doesn't rate him as highly as most. Certainly a widely heard murmur regarding his injury. If it is the case, then hopefully he can shrug it off. Been a tough year for him with fitness so far.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 20, 2014 11:13:29 GMT 1
Very useful to have a player like him ready to come into the squad and team
You just need one of those games where a player picks up a red card, and another an injury and suddenly you have a big gap in the team. Highly unlikely our current midfielders will all play 46 games with no injuries or suspensions
Last season we had to make panicky loan signings, this year we have our own good quality players to come in when needed.
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Aug 20, 2014 12:20:29 GMT 1
Post by eggyshrew on Aug 20, 2014 12:20:29 GMT 1
Heard last night Wildig still not fully recovered from his injury and had a recurrence after playing in friendly and in training Strange how he was named as sub for first couple of games then ... He was rated highly by GT and MJ and I just think MM has a more realistic view of him Your view Paul, not a realistic view
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Aug 20, 2014 13:02:52 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 13:02:52 GMT 1
Maybe, but I heard he was about 80% fit when named on the bench and has had a further reaction in training. We shall see, he is a good player and one of our best last season in League 1 so not quite sure where the "realistic view" comes from. His opportunity will come during the season! Paul doesn't rate him as highly as most. Certainly a widely heard murmur regarding his injury. If it is the case, then hopefully he can shrug it off. Been a tough year for him with fitness so far. You're right Lenny, I don't subscribe to the B&A Wildig love-in, although I am not sure of your word "most".... maybe others share my views. Wildig has been here 3 years now. His solid pre season last year produced his only string of decent performances in League 1 but before and after his unlucky injury IMO he was tailing off to the poor standard he had demonstrated too often during the previous season. Whether his efforts at the start of last season prove him at League 1 level, I am not so sure... his position was hardly threatened by the other players available (my feelings on Asa Hall are well documented). In our promotion season, with Wroe, Richards and Macallister at their best, he didn't get a look in and tbh unless Weso, Lawrence and/or Woods become unavailable, I expect simialr this season. In my eyes he's a useful squad player but has to be doing so much more to be a regular name on the team sheet.
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Aug 20, 2014 14:58:31 GMT 1
Post by lenny on Aug 20, 2014 14:58:31 GMT 1
Paul doesn't rate him as highly as most. Certainly a widely heard murmur regarding his injury. If it is the case, then hopefully he can shrug it off. Been a tough year for him with fitness so far. You're right Lenny, I don't subscribe to the B&A Wildig love-in, although I am not sure of your word "most".... maybe others share my views. I'm sure others do, but your opinion isn't particularly widely held and I'd happily wager it's a minority one. Not that it means you are wrong of course - although I was one of the few who rated him throughout his "poor" period and continue to suggest he would offer more to a team looking to control a game than Wesolowski.
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Post by lenny on Aug 20, 2014 15:01:28 GMT 1
Also, he was a fairly regular feature of our promotion team once his fitness settled down, and that was during the period when Richards, D. Mac and Wroe were all fit, firing and at the club. Primarily from the right wing, but Matt Richards played LB while D Mac was with us and you'll struggle to argue he didn't play a key role in us going up.
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Aug 20, 2014 15:09:45 GMT 1
Post by TheFoz on Aug 20, 2014 15:09:45 GMT 1
If went into the season with Wildig and Woods starting and Dave Mac as backup, I wouldn't have complained much.
He's a quality player and does adds quite a bit of creativity when he plays and I'm sure he will play a part in our campaign. Still only 22 year olds and I think he will be playing most of his career at a level higher than League Two.
I think McAllister needs to be moved on though, cannot see him being required at all and I have never really rated him.
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Aug 20, 2014 16:39:42 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 16:39:42 GMT 1
Also, he was a fairly regular feature of our promotion team once his fitness settled down, and that was during the period when Richards, D. Mac and Wroe were all fit, firing and at the club. Primarily from the right wing, but Matt Richards played LB while D Mac was with us and you'll struggle to argue he didn't play a key role in us going up. Disagree about his contribution to our promotion season, especially in central midfield. He only made 13 appearances in total that season, some as sub and as you rightly point out, mainly at right wing, a position he is totally unsuited to. It was the season after that Richards starting moving positions, DMac replaced Wroe after the latter's injury in our promotion season to form a decent partnership with Richards before Wroe returned towards the end. As you say I may be in a minority but likewise I don't think your comment about Weso not being able to control a game would be a majority one, he certainly kept us ticking over nicely last night.
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Aug 20, 2014 16:41:01 GMT 1
Post by Matster on Aug 20, 2014 16:41:01 GMT 1
We need back up players and McAllister is just that, unless he's on a huge wage then why bother moving him on.
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Aug 20, 2014 16:49:24 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 16:49:24 GMT 1
We need back up players and McAllister is just that, unless he's on a huge wage then why bother moving him on. With the current squad size we have to leave 5 players out at the moment, for each match. We have 5 recognised central midfielders and also Clark who can play that position (very well by what I saw in the friendlies). So I would say that at least one of them will not even be on the subs bench each match so to me Macallister is surplus to requirements unless we have a very unlucky time with injuries.
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Aug 20, 2014 17:40:12 GMT 1
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Post by twoleftfeet on Aug 20, 2014 17:40:12 GMT 1
You're right Lenny, I don't subscribe to the B&A Wildig love-in, although I am not sure of your word "most".... maybe others share my views. I'm sure others do, but your opinion isn't particularly widely held and I'd happily wager it's a minority one. Not that it means you are wrong of course - although I was one of the few who rated him throughout his "poor" period and continue to suggest he would offer more to a team looking to control a game than Wesolowski. I'm a massive wildig fan and hope he gets back into the squad but from what I've seen of wesolowski he would get in the everytime!!
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Post by lenny on Aug 20, 2014 18:52:10 GMT 1
I'm sure others do, but your opinion isn't particularly widely held and I'd happily wager it's a minority one. Not that it means you are wrong of course - although I was one of the few who rated him throughout his "poor" period and continue to suggest he would offer more to a team looking to control a game than Wesolowski. I'm a massive wildig fan and hope he gets back into the squad but from what I've seen of wesolowski he would get in the everytime!! Don't get me wrong I really do like the look of Wes, but he's very much a hassling ball-winner to me. Technique just seems a little clumsy some of the time, and he rarely ventures forward. No question his defensive proclivity and tenacity will prove useful in many games this season, but I just feel in games like the Tranmere one where we're stifled by a defensive opposition, Wildig would offer more in a creative and attacking sense to the team. It is one of the real benefits of this squad, in that our options for positions are generally different in styles to each other - no two of our five central midfielders are particularly similar in style, much like our forwards where only Vernon and Collins could be said to have similar styles.
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Post by eggyshrew on Aug 20, 2014 20:49:21 GMT 1
I'm a massive wildig fan and hope he gets back into the squad but from what I've seen of wesolowski he would get in the everytime!! Don't get me wrong I really do like the look of Wes, but he's very much a hassling ball-winner to me. Technique just seems a little clumsy some of the time, and he rarely ventures forward. No question his defensive proclivity and tenacity will prove useful in many games this season, but I just feel in games like the Tranmere one where we're stifled by a defensive opposition, Wildig would offer more in a creative and attacking sense to the team. It is one of the real benefits of this squad, in that our options for positions are generally different in styles to each other - no two of our five central midfielders are particularly similar in style, much like our forwards where only Vernon and Collins could be said to have similar styles. Very true Lenny the Tranmere game was crying out for a change Wes and Woods where far to deep. Wes was the better getting dirty stuck in as Woodsy was light weight and offered nothing going forward. Its all about balance 1 holding gritty player either Wes or Mac with a creative mid Lawrence or Wildig. With Woods he seems a holding player that has the ability and cleverness good technique but lacks strength and easily out muscled, that's why I prefer other options to him.
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Aug 20, 2014 21:33:21 GMT 1
Post by lenny on Aug 20, 2014 21:33:21 GMT 1
Don't get me wrong I really do like the look of Wes, but he's very much a hassling ball-winner to me. Technique just seems a little clumsy some of the time, and he rarely ventures forward. No question his defensive proclivity and tenacity will prove useful in many games this season, but I just feel in games like the Tranmere one where we're stifled by a defensive opposition, Wildig would offer more in a creative and attacking sense to the team. It is one of the real benefits of this squad, in that our options for positions are generally different in styles to each other - no two of our five central midfielders are particularly similar in style, much like our forwards where only Vernon and Collins could be said to have similar styles. Very true Lenny the Tranmere game was crying out for a change Wes and Woods where far to deep. Wes was the better getting dirty stuck in as Woodsy was light weight and offered nothing going forward. Its all about balance 1 holding gritty player either Wes or Mac with a creative mid Lawrence or Wildig. With Woods he seems a holding player that has the ability and cleverness good technique but lacks strength and easily out muscled, that's why I prefer other options to him. In fairness to Woodsy he does give as good as he gets!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 21, 2014 8:18:32 GMT 1
Mellon's formation is two midfielders Sat back hoovering up possession, with two wide players further forward. He seems happy for a gap between our midfield and the strikers. It's not aimless long ball but it's certainly direct, diagonal balls etc.
So I'm not sure where Wildig actually fits in that.
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Aug 31, 2014 10:04:05 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 10:04:05 GMT 1
MM mentioned post match yesterday that Wildig and Halstead had been injured during a coming together in training. With the niggles they've had during pre-season, it's the last thing these two needed. Hopefully both injuries not too serious but they may have missed the chance to get a much needed run out at Preston. Whatever MM says I expect players to be rested for that game ahead of the far more important visit to Hartlepool.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Aug 31, 2014 10:09:25 GMT 1
Whatever MM says I expect players to be rested for that game ahead of the far more important visit to Hartlepool. Maybe, but winning is a good habit and this early in the season they should be ok to play weekend and midweek. I hope we try our best to progress as far as possible in every competition we are involved in.
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