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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 10:07:24 GMT 1
Manager may have some decisions to make for Tuesday. If Ellis is fit would you bring him back? If so who to drop Percy or Demi? Upfront, I have been impressed by Mangan or would you drop Vernon or Colly or go with the same front two? How about Caton, does he deserve a starting berth? COYBs
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Post by shrewder on Aug 17, 2014 10:10:48 GMT 1
I would start with the 11 that finished yesterdays game.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 17, 2014 10:16:12 GMT 1
Thought the strikers who came on looked very lively and certainly helped turn the game. But not quite sure they would have the same impact if they started the game
I'd probably stick with the same starting 11 to allow team time to gell. Ideally get a lead then give players on the bench a run out in the last 30 minutes of the game
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Post by vanner on Aug 17, 2014 10:16:52 GMT 1
I saw Ellis might be out for 4-5 weeks.
I'd go for the same 11 bar Caton for Vincent.
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Post by eggyshrew on Aug 17, 2014 10:37:08 GMT 1
Wildig or Lawrence in 4 Woods and maybe give Mangan a run out from the start save the freshness of the front 2 a little for Northampton.
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Post by onthepitch on Aug 17, 2014 10:39:39 GMT 1
If we can get one of the centre mids to push forward a bit more I'd leave the team the same. If not I'd drop either Woods or Wezo to the bench and bring in Lawrence. Some of his clever passing we saw in pre-season could of unlocked Tranmere earlier maybe...
I think Vincent is being underrated a bit, he ran himself into the ground yesterday. I like him, I like Caton too, but think Vincent is more equipped against the physical defenders of Lg2.
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 17, 2014 11:04:02 GMT 1
On paper the Woods/Wes combination shouldn't work but seemed to do the trick very nicely vs Blackpool and allowed us to be very creative. Looked like Rovers had done their homework on us somewhat and we may have to get used to some frustrating afternoons both home and away.
It's still very early days for me and we should still be quite some way off being the finished article but with so many players pushing for a starting berth MM cannot know what his best starting eleven is at this moment in time.
Got a feeling the manager won't want to disrupt his first choice strike partnership while it's bedding in but Mangan's contribution yesterday cannot be ignored. Perhaps we'll see Mangan take up one of the wide berths which seem very much up for grabs at the moment.
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Post by RBA on Aug 17, 2014 11:09:52 GMT 1
same starting 11 for me assuming Ellis is still out
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Post by saloplad93 on Aug 17, 2014 11:59:53 GMT 1
Leutwiler
Gayle Goldson Knight Percival Demetriou
Lawrence Wesoloski
Clark
Mangan Collins Akpa Akpro
Clark can play in behind the front 3 which is his best position for me as he can get on the ball and make incisive passes and runs. JLAA and Mangan deserve starts and Woods can have a rest in favour of the skipper.
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Post by lenny on Aug 17, 2014 12:30:43 GMT 1
I'd go for one of Mangan and JLAA to get a start in place of Vernon, probably the latter despite Mangan making the telling contribution, and perhaps Caton in place of Vincent. Neither Vernon nor Vincent has been terrible, and both certainly put plenty of effort but I'm just entirely convinced by them early on. Vernon particularly looks fairly slow and cumbersome to me; although he us clearly an intelligent player and has a knack of scoring goals he has kept slowing down attacks and I just don't think he and Collins work that well as a partnership when Collins is essentially a more mobile, aggressive version of Vernon. I am being critical and he's definitely a useful asset who I'm sure will come good, but I'd just like to look elsewhere for the next game or two.
Vincent, on the other hand, just doesn't quite to have the trickery, directness and productivity I was hoping. Again, useful player who puts in 100% but is similar to Clark (without having been so impressive) and I'd like to see Caton in on one wing who's raw but more creative, and seems more likely to unlock a defence. I'm guessing Lawrence isn't 100% sharp yet as he wasn't brought on yesterday, so I'd probably keep him on the bench to start with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 16:48:22 GMT 1
will Grandison or Wildig get a kick this season............
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Post by mattmw on Aug 18, 2014 17:14:37 GMT 1
will Grandison or Wildig get a kick this season............ Think Wildig could do well in the side if he gets a chance. With a stronger defensive midfielder behind him and more attacking options in front of them could be a good asset to the team. Seems able to pick out a pass and get in the box which is something out midfield failed to do so far, so certainly another option for us. Suspect he is a better player with better players around him Big question about Grandison is his fitness. Get him back to the form and fitness of the promotion season and he'd be a massive asset to the team. Do question whether the injury he had has totally gone though
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Post by ceejay75 on Aug 18, 2014 17:26:32 GMT 1
MM aims to freshen up the side v Accy. Make of that what you will.
I would pick players on merit and after Mangan's showing on Saturday, he would start for me. Collins would get the nod out of the two strikers pulled off v tranmere
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Post by albionshrew on Aug 18, 2014 18:36:52 GMT 1
MM aims to freshen up the side v Accy. Make of that what you will.
…the two strikers pulled off v tranmere Too much information…
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 12:37:58 GMT 1
On paper the Woods/Wes combination shouldn't work but seemed to do the trick very nicely vs Blackpool The concern I have that with that combination is neither are particularly attack minded so there's not a lot of forward running from the centre of midfield. I think it was the Blackpool game where the ball broke to the edge of the area on several occasions but there was no one running in. Id imagine that Lawrence and Andy Robinson will both give us more ideas going forward so wouldnt be surprised to see one of them start tonight. I think the back 5 will remain but midfield and up front could see some changes, plenty of options and we have had 4 games in just over a week so expect him to give everyone an opportunity. I think Wildig will struggle to get a game this season and based on Gayle's early season form I can Jermaine struggling also
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Post by mattmw on Aug 19, 2014 13:22:17 GMT 1
What ever team plays tonight would be looking at them to control the game and get a bit more possession than we had v Tranmere, where I think the stats were 52% to Tranmere and 48% to Salop
If we can regularly get the possession figure up to 55-60% in games that will give us much more control in games and allow us to bring the more creative players we have to the fore. And hopefully more comfortable winning margins
Hoping for a good win tonight. Going for 3.1 win for the Town
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Post by TheFoz on Aug 19, 2014 13:57:51 GMT 1
What ever team plays tonight would be looking at them to control the game and get a bit more possession than we had v Tranmere, where I think the stats were 52% to Tranmere and 48% to Salop If we can regularly get the possession figure up to 55-60% in games that will give us much more control in games and allow us to bring the more creative players we have to the fore. And hopefully more comfortable winning margins Hoping for a good win tonight. Going for 3.1 win for the Town Possesion stats can be a bit dodgy in lower leagues. I'd say we had easily 55-60% possesion vs Tranmere. Second half it was literally all us, it was like a training game of attack vs defence and we were definitely in control.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 14:03:45 GMT 1
first 4-0 of the season tonight.......to Town
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Post by mattmw on Aug 19, 2014 14:09:35 GMT 1
What ever team plays tonight would be looking at them to control the game and get a bit more possession than we had v Tranmere, where I think the stats were 52% to Tranmere and 48% to Salop If we can regularly get the possession figure up to 55-60% in games that will give us much more control in games and allow us to bring the more creative players we have to the fore. And hopefully more comfortable winning margins Hoping for a good win tonight. Going for 3.1 win for the Town Possesion stats can be a bit dodgy in lower leagues. I'd say we had easily 55-60% possesion vs Tranmere. Second half it was literally all us, it was like a training game of attack vs defence and we were definitely in control. Think your right there Sky had the possession figures for sat at 48:52; just checked BBC ones and they have them as 56:44 to us! Clearly Jeff Stelling has his figures mixed up
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Post by siabod on Aug 19, 2014 14:23:16 GMT 1
Possesion stats can be a bit dodgy in lower leagues. I'd say we had easily 55-60% possesion vs Tranmere. Second half it was literally all us, it was like a training game of attack vs defence and we were definitely in control. Think your right there Sky had the possession figures for sat at 48:52; just checked BBC ones and they have them as 56:44 to us! Clearly Jeff Stelling has his figures mixed up I always feel that JS is not a great fan of STFC and always wonder if his great pal "Kammie" has influenced him a bit in that direction. (Think he does a great job though)
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Post by Liam on Aug 19, 2014 15:19:29 GMT 1
Leutwiler Gayle Goldson Knight Percival Demetriou Lawrence Wesoloski Clark Mangan Collins Akpa Akpro Clark can play in behind the front 3 which is his best position for me as he can get on the ball and make incisive passes and runs. JLAA and Mangan deserve starts and Woods can have a rest in favour of the skipper. My team would be pretty similar to this. 4-2-3-1 Back 5 remains the same. Lawrence rotated in for Woods to play alongside Wesolowski at the base of midfield. Caton, Clark and Akpa-Akpro across the 3. Collins up front on his own. Mangan gets at least half an hour either up top or out wide, depending on which of the 3 is flagging. Vernon rested but back in contention for Saturday.
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Post by TheFoz on Aug 19, 2014 15:41:34 GMT 1
Mine would be:
---------------Leutwiler--------------------
Gayle-------Goldson--K.Percival-----Demetriou
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Akpa-Akpro----Collins--------Clark----------
Just on the basis I think Accrington will come here and try and play for a draw. We should go out and attack from the off. Wesolowski will allow Lawrence and Woods to run forward and the front 3 could terrorise their defence.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 19, 2014 16:11:17 GMT 1
I thought Max Power looked very good for Tranmere, despite being named after a magazine. Their three put our two in the middle under extreme pressure. I doubt Accy have the players to do that.
Personally I would keep Mangan and Akpro as a partnership - and absolutely chuck the kitchen sink at them for half an hour and see what happens.
I would start with Vincent because he can keep it tight when we need it tight.
What a selection problem to have!
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Post by onthepitch on Aug 19, 2014 16:26:14 GMT 1
I'm not sure I'd change the starting strike partnership just yet... Only a couple of games in seems too soon to me, I'd give them chance to get used to each other... And we know we have a real threat from the bench. I'd maybe try AA on the wing for Vincent and Lawrence for either midfielder, but I'm sure Mellon has his own plan... We'll see
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Post by Salopfan99 on Aug 19, 2014 16:35:27 GMT 1
Accy will try and frustrate us much as Tranmere did for the second half on Saturday, but as TBH said, I question whether there players are on the same level as Tranmere. My team would be along the lines of
Leutwiler Gayle Goldson NKP Demetriou Wesolowski Lawrence Caton JLAA Clark Collins
I think Woodsy could do with a rest after 3 games in a week, with Lawrence to come in for him. Vernon and Vincent looked a bit leggy on Saturday also, so JLAA and Caton to replace them. I would change from a 4-4-2 to a 4-2-3-1, or maybe even stick with the 4-4-2 with Caton and Clark out wide, and Akpa and Collins upfront.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:42:04 GMT 1
Accy will try and frustrate us much as Tranmere did for the second half on Saturday, but as TBH said, I question whether there players are on the same level as Tranmere. My team would be along the lines of Leutwiler Gayle Goldson NKP Demetriou Wesolowski Lawrence Caton JLAA Clark Collins I think Woodsy could do with a rest after 3 games in a week, with Lawrence to come in for him. Vernon and Vincent looked a bit leggy on Saturday also, so JLAA and Caton to replace them. I would change from a 4-4-2 to a 4-2-3-1, or maybe even stick with the 4-4-2 with Caton and Clark out wide, and Akpa and Collins upfront. Agree about giving Woods a rest and would play Wildig in his place!
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 19, 2014 21:44:46 GMT 1
first 4-0 of the season tonight.......to Town Take a bow Hugh!
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Post by vanner on Aug 19, 2014 22:01:35 GMT 1
Great team selection by Micky Mellon once again. The 3 players who came in all had excellent games.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 19, 2014 22:31:24 GMT 1
Personally I would keep Mangan and Akpro as a partnership - and absolutely chuck the kitchen sink at them for half an hour and see what happens. Ladies and gentleman. I submit to you exhibit A, entitled "I told you so"
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Post by mattmw on Aug 19, 2014 22:44:50 GMT 1
Not quite sure we threw the kitchen sink at them, more that the chef dropped a saucepan on his foot and burnt the kitchen down
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