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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 12:51:04 GMT 1
After the 'gamesmanship' from Stevenage the other week I got to wondering, what annoys you during a game?
Time wasting is annoying but every team does it, the same goes for gaining extra yards at throw ins. Both are still very frustrating though.
One that really gets me is when Goalkeepers carry the ball a fraction out of their box and handball it just before kicking.. It happens quite often but I don't think I've seen a free kick given for this, how do they always get away with it??
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Post by scooter on Apr 17, 2014 13:00:46 GMT 1
How many times do goalkeepers kick the ball outside the box having dropped it while still in and people shout for a handball ?
Time wasting and play acting are the things that wind me up. Because everyone does it it has become accepted, and we are as guilty as anyone at times
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 13:05:26 GMT 1
How many times do goalkeepers kick the ball outside the box having dropped it while still in and people shout for a handball ? Time wasting and play acting are the things that wind me up. Because everyone does it it has become accepted, and we are as guilty as anyone at times Perhaps quite often, but the lino is usually already pegging it down the line so how would he have a clue? I think we should always shout handball in these circumstances, more that do it the better. One day we may just get one!?? Free kick on the edge of the box earned by the 12th man, yes please
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Post by bertymax on Apr 17, 2014 13:14:23 GMT 1
You see it week in week out...The ref awards a free kick and a player from the opposition (usually a centre forward) will take a detour to purposely stand in front a yard or two in front of the ball to prevent the player taking it quickly. Winds me up beyond belief!
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Apr 17, 2014 13:22:46 GMT 1
Ithappens every week. Good when youre winning and s**t when your losing. The 6 second rule n does this even exist anymore? Keepers hold onto it and just take the p**s! Refs are quick enough to book keepers for taking time when its a goal kick but when its in their hands they just do nothing! Refs these days aswell! All s**t!
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Apr 17, 2014 13:26:14 GMT 1
And also, when a linesman gives an offside when the team are attacking at pace, the place where he holds his flag up is always about 10 yards further forward!! And when a keeper takes a goal kick, as far as i no the lino is supposed to look to see if the ball is in the 6 yard box correctly. Why do they always stand on the 18 yard line? Then they sprint back to get in line with the defenders again! Either do your job properly or not at all!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 13:26:19 GMT 1
Steve Evans.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 17, 2014 13:26:24 GMT 1
With you on that bertymax. Saw a game on TV recently where the free kick was taken quickly so that the obstructing player was hit by the ball and got a yellow card. I'd do that every time we got a free kick and the opposition deliberately got in the way. I'd much rather see refs flashing yellow cards at players doing this than for soft fouls.
That's another thing that annoys me - fans, players and commentators shouting for yellow cards almost every time there's a foul or a player falls over. How did we get ourselves in that mess?
And finally - why is the goalkeeper allowed to take a goal kick from the side of the goal of his choosing? Plays into the hands of the timewasters. I'd make all goal kicks be taken from the side of the goal the ball went out of play.
I'll stop there - too many things about this silly game make me cross!
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 13:44:19 GMT 1
why is the goalkeeper allowed to take a goal kick from the side of the goal of his choosing? Plays into the hands of the timewasters. I'd make all goal kicks be taken from the side of the goal the ball went out of play. Yes! Completely agree with this one!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 13:45:18 GMT 1
Corners where the ball clearly isn't in the quadrant
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 13:48:05 GMT 1
1) 'Shepherding' out of play, clear obstruction anywhere else on the field 2) Pushing/holding in the box on corners, again would be free-kicks anywhere else 3) Free kicks being given when a player actually kicks the bottom of an opposition player's foot with their follow-through 4) Two players with equally high feet but one player winning a free kick 5) Fouls being given with the jusitification being "studs showing" 6) Players going off injured supposedly as a deterrent but them actually benefiting by wasting time and then being able to come straight back on
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 17, 2014 14:00:24 GMT 1
Annoy is too strong a word...but something I do wonder about is when you have a player looking to clear the ball and someone comes across to defend it. The lad clearing the ball puts his foot through it and his follow up means he then kicks the lad who is looking to block the clearance. Now no doubt it might smart, you see them catching their foot on the base of the defenders boot. Why I don't understand is how the defender gets booked for that? All he does is place he foot across to block the clearance and gets kicked...yet he gets the card. You're not obliged to give him time and space to clear the ball. Strange one that.
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Post by lenny on Apr 17, 2014 14:01:14 GMT 1
Players falling onto the ball and refs invariably give free-kicks, even if it isn't a foul, rather than penalise the handball. Fouling in the box from defenders on forwards at set-pieces leading to a free-kick for the defenders. Players "stealing" yards from throw ins and then throwing it short/backwards.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 17, 2014 14:02:39 GMT 1
3) Free kicks being given when a player actually kicks the bottom of an opposition player's foot with their follow-through
Not just me then...
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Post by Uncle_Monkey on Apr 17, 2014 14:07:53 GMT 1
I hate it when the opposition kick the ball into our net. Drives me bat- mental. And you see it happen all the time
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Post by jamo on Apr 17, 2014 14:46:45 GMT 1
The linesman not indicating a decision until after the referee has indicated his intentions. Absolutely no point in them being there sometimes.
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Post by Southern Fried Afro on Apr 17, 2014 14:53:18 GMT 1
Keepers going to ground in a crowded penalty box as a sure-fire way of winning a free kick.
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 14:53:49 GMT 1
The linesman not indicating a decision until after the referee has indicated his intentions. Absolutely no point in them being there sometimes. I'm sure this never used to happen? Refs looked to their 'assistants' for assistance!! Now it's the other way around at times, mental isn't it!
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Post by venceremos on Apr 17, 2014 15:39:15 GMT 1
why is the goalkeeper allowed to take a goal kick from the side of the goal of his choosing? Plays into the hands of the timewasters. I'd make all goal kicks be taken from the side of the goal the ball went out of play. Yes! Completely agree with this one! Any other time the ball goes out of play, it matters where it went out. Not for goal kicks though - why not? You don't get to choose which side you want to take a corner from.
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Post by Matster on Apr 17, 2014 16:26:18 GMT 1
Agree with Venceremos with the goal kicks.
Also add that whoever picks up the ball for a throw-in should take it, or at least once it is behind the touch line then it can't be passed out onto the pitch except as an official throw-in. On that note ref/lino looking for feet correctly set behind line when taking throw.
One of the most frustrating things is that footy is supposed to be a non-contact sport so all of this grabbing/tussling when two players are waiting for an incoming ball and currently they can do it until the ball is close. They should not be able to grab or hold another player.
Injured players, if a physio comes on, should walk off the pitch at the nearest point.
Substituted players who take too long to walk off (include 'injured' players too)
Stopping the clock rugby style for the above two issues would sort those things out.
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Post by littlebluefoot on Apr 17, 2014 16:29:13 GMT 1
Any football commentary from that famous footballer turned pundit, Adrian Chiles......can't stand that guy and we will have to put up with him for the world cup also!
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Post by davewill on Apr 17, 2014 16:34:11 GMT 1
Corners where the ball clearly isn't in the quadrant The whole of the Ball doesn't need to be in the quadrant any more. New rules state that as long as the ball is touching the quadrant line, that is OK
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Post by bobbyc on Apr 17, 2014 16:37:20 GMT 1
Agree with Venceremos with the goal kicks. Also add that whoever picks up the ball for a throw-in should take it, or at least once it is behind the touch line then it can't be passed out onto the pitch except as an official throw-in. On that note ref/lino looking for feet correctly set behind line when taking throw. One of the most frustrating things is that footy is supposed to be a non-contact sport so all of this grabbing/tussling when two players are waiting for an incoming ball and currently they can do it until the ball is close. They should not be able to grab or hold another player. Injured players, if a physio comes on, should walk off the pitch at the nearest point. Substituted players who take too long to walk off (include 'injured' players too) Stopping the clock rugby style for the above two issues would sort those things out. Football IS a contact sport, a certain amount should be allowed - we've become too soft these days and players go down far too easily. But I agree with the rest of your points.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 17, 2014 16:45:25 GMT 1
All forms of gamemanship. Players appealing against a refs decision when clearly the ref is right. All football pundits and the waffle they spout!!!
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 16:57:35 GMT 1
Football Pundits are almost universally awful aren't they.. Ones I do like though are the likes of Pat Nevin and Gary Neville. They do a really good job of explaining things the average fan might miss and try to educate the viewer a bit... I don't think I ever learned a thing off the likes of Lawrencon or Crooks!!
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 17:01:31 GMT 1
I think Keown and Dixon are pretty good too..
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 17, 2014 17:10:32 GMT 1
I think Keown and Dixon are pretty good too.. Dixon is, keown certainly isn't!!!
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 17, 2014 17:14:10 GMT 1
I think Keown and Dixon are pretty good too.. Dixon is, keown certainly isn't!!! Haha, perhaps. Now and then I find he is quite insightful. It will be interesting to see how Phil Neville does during the World Cup.. Hopefully Martin Oneill will be too busy elsewhere!
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 17, 2014 17:16:41 GMT 1
6) Players going off injured supposedly as a deterrent but them actually benefiting by wasting time and then being able to come straight back on
Definitely agree, it's a ridiculous rule. The reason for making players go off was to receive treatment off the pitch and reduce time wasting. Now they time waste by getting treatment on the pitch, walking off and coming straight back on. Joke Champions league gets my vote. Don't like it. Now 4th place is seen as achieving something and worth more than an actual trophy. Don't like the ridiculous money it brings and how the big teams continue getting it. And I hate how players come out with statements about how they have to play champions league Football. They might get a couple of glamour games but majority of them are against teams no more glamorous than the teams they face in the league
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 17, 2014 17:20:06 GMT 1
Dixon is, keown certainly isn't!!! Haha, perhaps. Now and then I find he is quite insightful. It will be interesting to see how Phil Neville does during the World Cup.. Hopefully Martin Oneill will be too busy elsewhere! I find keown really annoying. Sometimes he says things that are nonsense and then he goes on about why we can't produce skillful players forgetting he was anything but and hasn't done any coaching at all. Bit like the annoying Danny mills
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