colaboy
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Post by colaboy on Sept 8, 2013 12:31:34 GMT 1
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 8, 2013 12:39:28 GMT 1
No wonder Kitson is happy to be a fat washed up league two waster, when he is banking £11,000 a month for three years anyway!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 8, 2013 12:41:12 GMT 1
£110,000 a month for the club for three years, goodness me.
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Post by shrewsace on Sept 8, 2013 12:43:05 GMT 1
I think what's gone on at Portsmouth has been a bit more serious than just being a bit lax and failing to run a tight ship, though, isn't it?
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Post by theriverside on Sept 8, 2013 14:34:52 GMT 1
£110,000 a month for the club for three years, goodness me. But covered by the parachute payment - so I can't see how it will affect their prospects going forward based on the crowds they are attracting IF the current board spends responsibly. They should consider themselves very lucky that the players listed have taken reduced sums as settlements - if not then the parachute will not have covered the player debt and it would have been an entirely different scenario.......................
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 16:42:57 GMT 1
A bloody absolute disgrace .
I did feel sorry for the club and their fans but no , I have no such feelings for the club at all now .
I say this once again and will keep on saying it , if you want Town to spend silly money on players in the hope that they can drag us into the Championship think again . Its s**te for brains financial acumen and greed which gets you in this position . Portsmouth along with other clubs are lucky to be in the football league . Not forgetting of course greedy players who couldn't care a flying **** about the club .
I couldn't give a toss as long as our players give their all and respect the badge . I don't want overpaid , over hyped over the hill ****ers coming here on nice contracts looking for a final pay day .
That is why I want Bradshaw to succeed. He is one of ours and I think cares for his club . Our fans should recognise this and support him and others to the hilt .
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Post by albionshrew on Sept 8, 2013 18:24:09 GMT 1
A bloody absolute disgrace .... and respect the badge. Respect that clippy badge?!
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 8, 2013 18:35:54 GMT 1
I hope this isn't being used as some lame attempt to justify Roland's current 'tight ship' programme.
Thankfully Portsmouth are the exception to the rule, and although feeling sorry for the fans there isn't much sympathy I offer the club itself.
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Post by shrewsace on Sept 8, 2013 18:47:22 GMT 1
I hope this isn't being used as some lame attempt to justify Roland's current 'tight ship' programme. Thankfully Portsmouth are the exception to the rule, and although feeling sorry for the fans there isn't much sympathy I offer the club itself. But don't you see, if we bought a striker we could end up like Portsmouth.
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Post by colaboy on Sept 8, 2013 19:17:20 GMT 1
I think what's gone on at Portsmouth has been a bit more serious than just being a bit lax and failing to run a tight ship, though, isn't it? It's also a play on words, but you fail to see this..
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Post by shrewsace on Sept 8, 2013 19:35:29 GMT 1
I think what's gone on at Portsmouth has been a bit more serious than just being a bit lax and failing to run a tight ship, though, isn't it? It's also a play on words, but you fail to see this.. Apologies for my lack of sophistication, I thought you were just navel gazing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 20:14:23 GMT 1
A bloody absolute disgrace .... and respect the badge. Respect that clippy badge?! Town players should play for the badge in our hearts. And not the logo on our shirts.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 8, 2013 22:27:27 GMT 1
From what I've heard our 'tight ship' policy is the reason we are understaffed with regard to the squad and over reliant on loanees.
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Post by shrewed46 on Sept 9, 2013 8:46:22 GMT 1
There is a balance between the excessive spending of the likes of Portsmouth and the tight ship currently being operated by Turner and Wycherley. In my opinion the club has taken frugality to far unfortunately I don't see the purse strings being loosened until there are changes at the top.
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Post by shrewder on Sept 9, 2013 10:23:58 GMT 1
Spending a moderate amount, which some seem to favour probably would make little difference to the quality of the squad. The amounts needed to spend to compete with the big clubs at this level would bankrupt the club. The policy of developing young players is the right way forward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 12:26:35 GMT 1
That post pretty much sums up the madness of modern football, so much money for so many average players. But they didnt learn their lesson, wasnt the Liam Lawrence signing one they made after they had already been relegated and had financial problems, yet they still owe him £600k
In terms of us, of course we cant compete financially with the likes of Sheff Utd, Wolves, Peterborough etc but Im really struggling to understand why we seem to be so far behind financially in L1. Many people have said before but there's real mixed messages from the club, the one minute there's money available and we want to challenge for promotion but the next we have a thin squad complimented by loans? If Roland's attitude is for us to stick within a strict budget, even if that means relegation to L2, then Id have preferred to have stayed at Gay Meadow. Afterall, wasnt the ground move supposed to take us to the next level financially?
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Post by shrewed46 on Sept 9, 2013 12:26:35 GMT 1
Spending a moderate amount, which some seem to favour probably would make little difference to the quality of the squad. The amounts needed to spend to compete with the big clubs at this level would bankrupt the club. The policy of developing young players is the right way forward. I agree that developing young players is the right way forward but please let us develop our own players not Middlesborough or West Brom's players.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 9, 2013 13:05:48 GMT 1
Spending a moderate amount, which some seem to favour probably would make little difference to the quality of the squad. The amounts needed to spend to compete with the big clubs at this level would bankrupt the club. The policy of developing young players is the right way forward. I agree that developing young players is the right way forward but please let us develop our own players not Middlesborough or West Brom's players. I wonder how many loans Crewe have had in the last 3 seasons compared to us?
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Post by northwestman on Sept 9, 2013 13:09:43 GMT 1
That post pretty much sums up the madness of modern football, so much money for so many average players. But they didnt learn their lesson, wasnt the Liam Lawrence signing one they made after they had already been relegated and had financial problems, yet they still owe him £600k In terms of us, of course we cant compete financially with the likes of Sheff Utd, Wolves, Peterborough etc but Im really struggling to understand why we seem to be so far behind financially in L1. Many people have said before but there's real mixed messages from the club, the one minute there's money available and we want to challenge for promotion but the next we have a thin squad complimented by loans? If Roland's attitude is for us to stick within a strict budget, even if that means relegation to L2, then Id have preferred to have stayed at Gay Meadow. Afterall, wasnt the ground move supposed to take us to the next level financially? I believe that under the current budget we are unlikely to sign anyone unless there is a reasonable chance we can sell him at a profit. This probably rules out experienced players under the Bosman rules.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Sept 9, 2013 17:56:20 GMT 1
I believe GT said he was staggered by some of the demands made by players and their agents. If he really wanted to sign someone, I'll bet the Chairman will back his judgement.
I still think we're only a couple of signings away from being half decent. It's just a shame we couldn't get them in the window.
The FA Cup is looking very, very important now. We can't afford another 1st round fee ass co.
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Post by Bring Back The Loggerheads on Sept 9, 2013 18:43:47 GMT 1
We all know it was really down to the £500 they spent on new crockery when they changed their badge in 2008.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Sept 9, 2013 19:23:19 GMT 1
That post pretty much sums up the madness of modern football, so much money for so many average players. But they didnt learn their lesson, wasnt the Liam Lawrence signing one they made after they had already been relegated and had financial problems, yet they still owe him £600k In terms of us, of course we cant compete financially with the likes of Sheff Utd, Wolves, Peterborough etc but Im really struggling to understand why we seem to be so far behind financially in L1. Many people have said before but there's real mixed messages from the club, the one minute there's money available and we want to challenge for promotion but the next we have a thin squad complimented by loans? If Roland's attitude is for us to stick within a strict budget, even if that means relegation to L2, then Id have preferred to have stayed at Gay Meadow. Afterall, wasnt the ground move supposed to take us to the next level financially? Yep you are right, they'd been relegated and were in financial problems when they signed Liam Lawrence, AND Dave Kitson. They both arrived when they were in the midst of the problems and were trying to sell players to survive - they actually bought these two in for Mark Wilson, which seemed at the time, and even more so now like a crazy deal
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Post by atcham jack on Sept 10, 2013 9:16:14 GMT 1
unless I misheard 5 live last night, league 2 clubs owe in total £8.2 million.
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Post by shrewed46 on Sept 10, 2013 9:41:17 GMT 1
unless I misheard 5 live last night, league 2 clubs owe in total £8.2 million. That would not surprise me on average roughly £300k per club if I remember correctly the Town's debt when Roland over was approaching £500k and that's 20 years ago.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Sept 11, 2013 1:15:16 GMT 1
unless I misheard 5 live last night, league 2 clubs owe in total £8.2 million. That would not surprise me on average roughly £300k per club if I remember correctly the Town's debt when Roland over was approaching £500k and that's 20 years ago. Erm...the first link on this thread shows Portsmouth alone owe over £6.7m to players. just players, not their other creditors. So at least £6.7m out of that £8.2m is just solely portsmouth
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Post by DiglisShrew on Sept 11, 2013 14:00:25 GMT 1
unless I misheard 5 live last night, league 2 clubs owe in total £8.2 million. That would not surprise me on average roughly £300k per club if I remember correctly the Town's debt when Roland over was approaching £500k and that's 20 years ago. There was an interesting comment by Dario Gradi in the Guardian at the weekend where he said that "we budget for a loss of £700,000 a season which means that we have to look to sell a young player or two for over £1.5 million every 2 years". Works for them it seems but only because they seem to have a regular supply of young players coming through , playing first team football at a very early age and attracting large fees from Championship / premier clubs. How come they can attract this young talent and not us ? Not a critiscism just would like to know !!
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 11, 2013 20:31:45 GMT 1
reputation, crewe are known for developing and playing young players, if I was a young pro I would goto crewe.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Sept 11, 2013 23:37:38 GMT 1
That would not surprise me on average roughly £300k per club if I remember correctly the Town's debt when Roland over was approaching £500k and that's 20 years ago. Erm...the first link on this thread shows Portsmouth alone owe over £6.7m to players. just players, not their other creditors. So at least £6.7m out of that £8.2m is just solely portsmouth Yet more reason why Pompey should've been liquidated and reformed two years ago. Rehabilitative administration in the UK is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 18:15:24 GMT 1
A bloody absolute disgrace .... and respect the badge. insert code here Respect that clippy badge?! Albionshrew , I am most put out . When I say " respect the badge " I am, of course , referring to the Loggerheads. The other abortion is not technically a "badge " but a pile of s**te . When our players currently kiss the "badge " for want of a better description they are effectively kissing a pile of steaming t*** . You wouldn't be wanting to do that now would you? I do accept your apologies in advance .
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Post by albionshrew on Sept 12, 2013 22:28:13 GMT 1
insert code here Respect that clippy badge?! Albionshrew , I am most put out . When I say " respect the badge " I am, of course , referring to the Loggerheads. The other abortion is not technically a "badge " but a pile of s**** . When our players currently kiss the "badge " for want of a better description they are effectively kissing a pile of steaming t*** . You wouldn't be wanting to do that now would you? I do accept your apologies in advance . My grovelling apologies!
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