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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 22:55:39 GMT 1
Wonderful stuff Chrispy.
Brings a tear to my eye.
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Post by andygroundo on Jun 7, 2012 6:07:23 GMT 1
Uncalled for leftie, Whitters doesn't have little legs - I have seen them and they are quite tubby. My best part is my legs, they are all muscle, as apposed to the rest of me which is a wreck. 'Jman, I tend to try and keep away from the top floors to be honest. Ha ha top floor avoidance!!! Tis true his legs are all muscle, he bikes to work every day. Talking of which your bike is done
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 6:43:09 GMT 1
Tis true his legs are all muscle, he bikes to work every day. Give over Andy. He only lives half a mile away. Hardly qualifies for the yellow jersey does it? Barely even a vest. ;D
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Post by chrispyshrew on Jun 7, 2012 17:33:56 GMT 1
Not much happening today.
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 19:30:13 GMT 1
Ive had many disagreements with Ed and I do think there's an element of a WUM or just going against the grain with him but he's obviously allowed his point of view and of course creates debate. My one issue around the whole loggerheads debate with him (and the odd other poster) is that they have tried to make peoples age an issue. Who cares if Justin is 17 or him and Geoff are at uni, what does that have to do with the debate? I get the impression that some posters are dismissive of the debate as they feel its a few kids trying to make a name for themselves, when people of all ages and from all walks of life are supportive of (of course the same goes for people who are against the badge change). What I would say is that if we do want to make age an issue then the fact the likes of Justin & Geoff are so passionate about the loggerheads shows it in a good light because younger supporters want to celebrate and respect our history & heritage. Plus the wording of the petition was very impressive and very respective...........for a 17 year old Paul, the person who raised the issue of students and age was TMLS, as far as I'm concerned if you are prepared to post and criticise others then you are fair game whether you are 15 or 95. Yesterday as I was driving listening to radio 5 when a Cardiff fan was interviewed about changing the shirt colour to red he said that changing the colour did not change the clubs history, that would always stay the same. It is a shame that Shrewsbury fans don't see it the same a new badge will not change the towns history. I was wondering why after the negative approach of both SABC and Shropshire Council towards the football club you would actually want the club associated with the loggerheads. I'm sure Roland would not be so petty.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 19:51:52 GMT 1
I was wondering why after the negative approach of both SABC and Shropshire Council towards the football club you would actually want the club associated with the loggerheads. I'm sure Roland would not be so petty. Ed, your reasons for opposing this become more bizarre and tenuous by the day. What the hell are you going to come out with next?
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 20:03:56 GMT 1
I was wondering why after the negative approach of both SABC and Shropshire Council towards the football club you would actually want the club associated with the loggerheads. I'm sure Roland would not be so petty. Ed, your reasons for opposing this become more bizarre and tenuous by the day. What the hell are you going to come out with next? Anything that will ensure that the club doesn't waste money on a pointless new badge. The more I look at it the more I think changing the flag is totally irrelevant. It doesn't change the clubs history or our memories.
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Post by chrispyshrew on Jun 7, 2012 20:18:31 GMT 1
Ed, your reasons for opposing this become more bizarre and tenuous by the day. What the hell are you going to come out with next? Anything that will ensure that the club doesn't waste money on a pointless new flag. The more I look at it the more I think changing the flag is totally irrelevant. It doesn't change the clubs history or our memories. What flag? Does the club have a flag?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 20:19:50 GMT 1
What flag? Does the club have a flag? The only thing that's flagging around here is the coherence of Hope2010's argument...
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 20:20:13 GMT 1
Anything that will ensure that the club doesn't waste money on a pointless new flag. The more I look at it the more I think changing the flag is totally irrelevant. It doesn't change the clubs history or our memories. What flag? Does the club have a flag? Long tiring day, meant badge. Amended
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Post by TheFoz on Jun 7, 2012 20:26:30 GMT 1
brilliant badge chrispy.
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 20:29:10 GMT 1
What flag? Does the club have a flag? The only thing that's flagging around here is the coherence of Hope2010's argument... I notice you have failed to correct your distortion of the facts as per usual attitude. Facts never have been your strong point.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 7, 2012 20:33:47 GMT 1
So Ed, your thoughts have now changed from cost to that you simply don't give a s**t whatever badge we have. That's all well and good but don't lecture people who do care a lot. Oh, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind if we changed out badge to this, our history and heritage will remain:
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jun 7, 2012 20:43:42 GMT 1
So Ed, your thoughts have now changed from cost to that you simply don't give a s**t whatever badge we have. That's all well and good but don't lecture people who do care a lot. Oh, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind if we changed out badge to this, our history and heritage will remain: You heard it here t***.
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Post by Amsterdammer on Jun 7, 2012 21:36:55 GMT 1
So Ed, your thoughts have now changed from cost to that you simply don't give a s**t whatever badge we have. That's all well and good but don't lecture people who do care a lot. Oh, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind if we changed out badge to this, our history and heritage will remain: Nice effort feedo. Did you use photo plop to design that? I'm a frayed that image can't be copyrighted though so it doesn't work. Maybe there's a clip art pooh you could use instead?
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 21:45:29 GMT 1
So Ed, your thoughts have now changed from cost to that you simply don't give a s**t whatever badge we have. That's all well and good but don't lecture people who do care a lot. Oh, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind if we changed out badge to this, our history and heritage will remain: Well Feedo you have achieved what no one else has achieved you have summarised the pro change campaign in one simple picture. As they say one picture is worth 1000 signatures, no that can't be right, should be 1000 words.
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Post by Dan F on Jun 7, 2012 21:49:56 GMT 1
Paul, the person who raised the issue of students and age was TMLS LMAO. Not even right by weeks...
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 7, 2012 21:56:14 GMT 1
Paul, the person who raised the issue of students and age was TMLS LMAO. Not even right by weeks... Your were their first nanny. you should be proud of your role looking after your little flock.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 22:10:57 GMT 1
Sadly this thread has slowly but surely degenerated and has now become tedious in the extreme…perhaps it’s time to call it a day…..
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jun 7, 2012 22:33:52 GMT 1
Sadly this thread has slowly but surely degenerated and has now become tedious in the extreme�perhaps it�s time to call it a day�.. Sorry to hear you're calling it a day on the thread, off ya goo owd lad. I'm staying put on any thread that will discuss the badge ishoo, even if we get a bit daft.
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Post by chrispyshrew on Jun 7, 2012 23:25:46 GMT 1
This is only because cardiff city will be the redbirds before long.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jun 8, 2012 0:11:41 GMT 1
Hi Ian, thank you for taking the time to add a response to this thread. The graphic design experts at Design Happy are adamant (scoring themselves a '10' on a scale from 1-10) that 'if you create your own style of loggerhead then you can copyright and place it in any position you see fit'. I'm just wondering Geoff, if the club were misinformed over copyright issues at the time of the last re-branding. It's a distinct possibility given the that the club were also short-changed by Tony Brooks during this period. If Roland was to see Sean Broseley's excellent avatar, I'm sure he'd be less than amused, especially if Mr Brooks pocketed a tidy sum for the supposedly 'original' design. I'd actually be very much surprised if this was something that wasn't done on the cheap. The club has always had to make do and mend and eventually that becomes a habit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 12:19:25 GMT 1
Paul, the person who raised the issue of students and age was TMLS, as far as I'm concerned if you are prepared to post and criticise others then you are fair game whether you are 15 or 95. Yesterday as I was driving listening to radio 5 when a Cardiff fan was interviewed about changing the shirt colour to red he said that changing the colour did not change the clubs history, that would always stay the same. It is a shame that Shrewsbury fans don't see it the same a new badge will not change the towns history. I was wondering why after the negative approach of both SABC and Shropshire Council towards the football club you would actually want the club associated with the loggerheads. I'm sure Roland would not be so petty. Ed Im not going to go the childish efforts of finding out who posted what first or so on. However there's no doubt that some of posts aimed at the likes of Justin have tried to make his age a factor in the debate. Im not saying his age makes him exempt from criticism, Im just saying his age is completely irrelevant to the issue. Certainly your viewpoint with regard to the badge is different to mine and its clear that the cost argument is a convenient one when in the main the badge is of no importance to you. Thats completely your choice and we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I just find it amazing that a man who constantly likes to celebrate the historical achievements, almost to the point of belittling any current day ones, is so dismissive of any fans attempts to prevent the club moving away from its heritage. As for the final paragraph, for someone who has said the pro-loggerheads 'camp' have made so many exaggerated/false claims/arguments, well its laughable
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Post by Shrewed on Jun 8, 2012 15:42:48 GMT 1
Paul, the person who raised the issue of students and age was TMLS, as far as I'm concerned if you are prepared to post and criticise others then you are fair game whether you are 15 or 95. Yesterday as I was driving listening to radio 5 when a Cardiff fan was interviewed about changing the shirt colour to red he said that changing the colour did not change the clubs history, that would always stay the same. It is a shame that Shrewsbury fans don't see it the same a new badge will not change the towns history. I was wondering why after the negative approach of both SABC and Shropshire Council towards the football club you would actually want the club associated with the loggerheads. I'm sure Roland would not be so petty. Ed Im not going to go the childish efforts of finding out who posted what first or so on. However there's no doubt that some of posts aimed at the likes of Justin have tried to make his age a factor in the debate. Im not saying his age makes him exempt from criticism, Im just saying his age is completely irrelevant to the issue. Certainly your viewpoint with regard to the badge is different to mine and its clear that the cost argument is a convenient one when in the main the badge is of no importance to you. Thats completely your choice and we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I just find it amazing that a man who constantly likes to celebrate the historical achievements, almost to the point of belittling any current day ones, is so dismissive of any fans attempts to prevent the club moving away from its heritage. As for the final paragraph, for someone who has said the pro-loggerheads 'camp' have made so many exaggerated/false claims/arguments, well its laughable Paul you are right I do like to celebrate the historical achievements of the club, but none of those were down to the badge or the colour of the shirt although in preference I would prefer blue and white. Those historical achievements are down to players and personalities from within the STFC family.
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Post by chrispyshrew on Jun 8, 2012 16:11:44 GMT 1
Your just a awkward and slightly confused person ain't you ned. Puddled.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2012 10:51:42 GMT 1
Again have to agree to disagree Ed
I know what your saying about players/events make history but to me a badge should represent the club and the town. In my opinion if it isnt important why do so many groups/organisations have badges/logo's? And if it wasnt important then why did the club go through the cost and hassle of changing it?
Personally I wish to see my home town team play in a shirt and with a badge which represents the town and the football club.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 12, 2012 1:37:11 GMT 1
Tried to spice up the circle one a bit, adobe photoshop 2.0 is pretty damn old 2004 I think, still good for swishing about with designs. My laptop is the same age and still going well. Time for a new one now I think and a massive upgrade on my software! you are having the same problem that the town had dand had taken the credit for your work on facebook and posted this picture
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 12, 2012 7:06:08 GMT 1
I'm just wondering Geoff, if the club were misinformed over copyright issues at the time of the last re-branding. It's a distinct possibility given the that the club were also short-changed by Tony Brooks during this period. If Roland was to see Sean Broseley's excellent avatar, I'm sure he'd be less than amused, especially if Mr Brooks pocketed a tidy sum for the supposedly 'original' design. I'd actually be very much surprised if this was something that wasn't done on the cheap. The club has always had to make do and mend and eventually that becomes a habit. Agree Sean. You only need look at the many years the club stuck with MG Sportswear who were without a doubt the worse kit supplier I have every come across. Their products were not the best by a fair margin. Yet the club stuck with them, no doubt for convenience and cost. Whilst in doing so not providing its support base with anything like decent replicas and merchandise...
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 13, 2012 22:59:58 GMT 1
Just a quick update for the fans with this... The club has not responded As yet to our proposal which meant a new brand indentity could be established, fully coprighted and implemented at a basic level for a nominal fee. We have had a couple of emails regarding this over the past few weeks and would just like to clarify that we would still like to hear from the club. Drop a line to MartinJames@shrewsburytown.co.uk
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Post by chrispyshrew on Jul 14, 2012 0:26:43 GMT 1
The club could have my designs for free, yes nothing. I'm a qualified designer and artist to a national level. I have loads of different versions and could design many more. I'm not a business looking for money, I'm a fan doing what would be best for the club I've supported well over 25 years and for the fans not for my own pocket.
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