prawnsarnie
Midland League Division Two
[k4r]
Posts: 243
|
Post by prawnsarnie on Aug 19, 2011 7:54:19 GMT 1
It was a good evening. Informal chat with free- flowing questions, comments, humour and positivity. GT still a legend and nobody present left in any doubt that our objectives remain unchanged and we have a better squad to achieve them. The sequence of results rather than the results themselves offered as a reason for the doomsayers. Well done to the club for organising the evening
|
|
|
Post by Shrewed on Aug 19, 2011 8:03:30 GMT 1
It was a good evening. Informal chat with free- flowing questions, comments, humour and positivity. GT still a legend and nobody present left in any doubt that our objectives remain unchanged and we have a better squad to achieve them. The sequence of results rather than the results themselves offered as a reason for the doomsayers. Well done to the club for organising the evening You are very naive if you expected GT to be anything else but positive about the season, hardly likely to say the team is poor and you can expect the team to struggle. Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night.
|
|
|
Post by SeanBroseley on Aug 19, 2011 8:45:15 GMT 1
The players do GT's talking for him on the pitch but at least it is nice to know the old bloke is still feeling chipper. The difference between the results and the sequence of results is neither here or there as there are very few permutations for only three results. Again the objectives aren't going to change after three games: all 24 teams are in the promotion hunt as things stand. Whether we have a better squad remains to be seen - it is too early for fans to come to that judgement.
|
|
|
Post by DaveG on Aug 19, 2011 9:48:39 GMT 1
It was a good evening. Informal chat with free- flowing questions, comments, humour and positivity. GT still a legend and nobody present left in any doubt that our objectives remain unchanged and we have a better squad to achieve them. The sequence of results rather than the results themselves offered as a reason for the doomsayers. Well done to the club for organising the evening You are very naive if you expected GT to be anything else but positive about the season, hardly likely to say the team is poor and you can expect the team to struggle. Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. The club are damned if they do and damned if they don't aren't they. There are plenty of things that I would like to see done differently, or better down there, but that's life, and I'm sure plenty of people would do my job differently. You need to get it through your head that for us to be a viable business, and have good playing budgets and transfer fees available, Executive and corporate income is absolutely vital. I spend plenty of time in the Sovereign as well as my season ticket in block 17; the people in there are not better fans than the rest, nor do they see themselves as such. They are people who are lucky enough to be able to pay considerably more money than the rest of us for a comfier seat, a good position, access to a nice bar ands facilities, and to get the occasional bonus, such as last night. People on here are criticising the chairman for not popping in to corporate boxes like the guy from Burton, yet when they organise a night that encourages people to continue their financial support, or that might encourage people to take up a Sovereign membership, they get killed for it. These people made a long-term commitment, including a lump sum payment upfront, and as such they are entitled to the odd treat, and the chance to ask questions that they wouldn't get in with 700 people in the room. Criticism is essential where a wrong is perceived, but don't make an issue of the club doing what probably 95% of clubs do for their major financial backers.
|
|
|
Post by Shrewed on Aug 19, 2011 10:13:16 GMT 1
Dave, I believe that when both Peters and Simpson were manager there were open forums since GT arrived I believe there have been two forums one for selected members of the Super Blues the other for the Sovereign members. I have no problem if the club provides a treat for certain sections of the fan base but it shouldn't ignore the majority of fans who may be struggling in the current economic environment.
May main reason for replying to this thread was the naive comments of the first poster.
|
|
|
Post by DaveG on Aug 19, 2011 10:17:00 GMT 1
Dave, I believe that when both Peters and Simpson were manager there were open forums since GT arrived I believe there have been two forums one for selected members of the Super Blues the other for the Sovereign members. I have no problem if the club provides a treat for certain sections of the fan base but it shouldn't ignore the majority of fans who may be struggling in the current economic environment. May main reason for replying to this thread was the naive comments of the first poster. I'm sure that GT will do an open Q&A at some stage, and I quite agree with your thoughts on the struggling man in the street. My point is that at this stage we don't know what the season holds as we are 2 weeks into it. Wait for a while before you put the boot in. There are some good people at the football club, fans themselves, and they are not idiots, so give them a chance.
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Aug 19, 2011 10:42:15 GMT 1
i can't understand why the club didn't ask me to speak to them instead
|
|
|
Post by DaveG on Aug 19, 2011 10:51:16 GMT 1
i can't understand why the club didn't ask me to speak to them instead Me neither....I have heard you are good at helping with the thornier issues as well.
|
|
|
Post by didntwantosignup on Aug 19, 2011 10:59:03 GMT 1
You are very naive if you expected GT to be anything else but positive about the season, hardly likely to say the team is poor and you can expect the team to struggle. Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. The club are damned if they do and damned if they don't aren't they. There are plenty of things that I would like to see done differently, or better down there, but that's life, and I'm sure plenty of people would do my job differently. You need to get it through your head that for us to be a viable business, and have good playing budgets and transfer fees available, Executive and corporate income is absolutely vital. I spend plenty of time in the Sovereign as well as my season ticket in block 17; the people in there are not better fans than the rest, nor do they see themselves as such. They are people who are lucky enough to be able to pay considerably more money than the rest of us for a comfier seat, a good position, access to a nice bar ands facilities, and to get the occasional bonus, such as last night. People on here are criticising the chairman for not popping in to corporate boxes like the guy from Burton, yet when they organise a night that encourages people to continue their financial support, or that might encourage people to take up a Sovereign membership, they get killed for it. These people made a long-term commitment, including a lump sum payment upfront, and as such they are entitled to the odd treat, and the chance to ask questions that they wouldn't get in with 700 people in the room. Criticism is essential where a wrong is perceived, but don't make an issue of the club doing what probably 95% of clubs do for their major financial backers. Absolutely spot on
|
|
|
Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 19, 2011 11:09:43 GMT 1
The club are damned if they do and damned if they don't aren't they. There are plenty of things that I would like to see done differently, or better down there, but that's life, and I'm sure plenty of people would do my job differently. You need to get it through your head that for us to be a viable business, and have good playing budgets and transfer fees available, Executive and corporate income is absolutely vital. I spend plenty of time in the Sovereign as well as my season ticket in block 17; the people in there are not better fans than the rest, nor do they see themselves as such. They are people who are lucky enough to be able to pay considerably more money than the rest of us for a comfier seat, a good position, access to a nice bar ands facilities, and to get the occasional bonus, such as last night. People on here are criticising the chairman for not popping in to corporate boxes like the guy from Burton, yet when they organise a night that encourages people to continue their financial support, or that might encourage people to take up a Sovereign membership, they get killed for it. These people made a long-term commitment, including a lump sum payment upfront, and as such they are entitled to the odd treat, and the chance to ask questions that they wouldn't get in with 700 people in the room. Criticism is essential where a wrong is perceived, but don't make an issue of the club doing what probably 95% of clubs do for their major financial backers. Absolutely spot on As far as I can see the Hope chap was referring to the manager and his comments on the season. Nowt posted about the chairman or the Sovereign club...
|
|
|
Post by ianwhit on Aug 19, 2011 12:22:47 GMT 1
Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. That is going to take one ****ing big room to host it!
|
|
prawnsarnie
Midland League Division Two
[k4r]
Posts: 243
|
Post by prawnsarnie on Aug 19, 2011 12:26:55 GMT 1
It was a good evening. Informal chat with free- flowing questions, comments, humour and positivity. GT still a legend and nobody present left in any doubt that our objectives remain unchanged and we have a better squad to achieve them. The sequence of results rather than the results themselves offered as a reason for the doomsayers. Well done to the club for organising the evening You are very naive if you expected GT to be anything else but positive about the season, hardly likely to say the team is poor and you can expect the team to struggle. Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. And you are presuming that I may have expected anything else Sometimes it helps to step outside the negativity and look at postings with an open mind ffs. Some of the posts on here this week have been incredible this early into a very long season.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 12:36:59 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here.
|
|
|
Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 19, 2011 12:51:43 GMT 1
Personally i'm just amazed the OSC didn't charge none OSC members a quid to get in......
|
|
|
Post by bizzylad on Aug 19, 2011 13:02:45 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here. Agree the club have done nowt wrong here, the only gripe ive got is the Legends Night it shouldnt be black tie and nearly £50 inc vat a ticket bloody shambles in my opinion
|
|
|
Post by Shrewed on Aug 19, 2011 14:11:05 GMT 1
Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. That is going to take one Flippin big room to host it! You've a 10000 seated stadium haven't if it's good enough for Elton John sure it will be good enough for GT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 14:51:57 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here. Would agree with that. Theres things wrong at the club but the fans forums are not one of them GT has done 3 in around a year now, one open for everyone, one for Super Blues members and now one for Soverign Club Members. I dont see that as being unreasonable
|
|
|
Post by Shrewed on Aug 19, 2011 15:01:15 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here. Paul are you actually Mark in disguise, what is being discussed has nothing to do with results, it is to do with the relationship between the club and the fans. If you want to bring in the playing side into the discussion according to fans who go to most away games it is not the results over the last two away games it's the standard of play that they find the most worrying
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 16:19:41 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here. Would agree with that. Theres things wrong at the club but the fans forums are not one of them GT has done 3 in around a year now, one open for everyone, one for Super Blues members and now one for Soverign Club Members. I dont see that as being unreasonable Agree. i'm sure sthere will be another open Q&A in good time.
|
|
|
Post by davycrockett on Aug 19, 2011 16:30:25 GMT 1
Hopefully the club will arrange a similar event for the 90% of fans who were not invited last night. That is going to take one Flippin big room to host it! Why how many turned up last time there was an open forum? 100 ? can remember one at the Barnabas center which was well supported but plenty of room in a smaller venue than the Sovereign suite
|
|
|
Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 19, 2011 20:46:00 GMT 1
, the only gripe ive got is the Legends Night it shouldnt be black tie and nearly £50 inc vat a ticket bloody shambles in my opinion [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif [/img][/quote] I disagree with that Bizzy, black tie events add a little class to an evening. I thoroughly enjoy them - to me it's a kind of standard. Once dropped it will be jeans and untucked in shirts i'm not a snob but to me it helps make the evening a little more special.
|
|
|
Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 19, 2011 20:46:21 GMT 1
Can't see why the club is getting criticism for this. The Radio Shropshire Q&A with GT at the start of last season was open to all fans. So was the recently well organised Open Day, where GT, staff and players were very accessible. GT never fails to give interviews before and after every game. He's experienced and talks well as opposed to Simpson who just made me want to switch off. We are where we are after 3 league games and there are problems to sort out but he's right about the sequence of results, if they had been in the reverse order the grim reapers would not be so apparent on here. Agree the club have done nowt wrong here, the only gripe ive got is the Legends Night it shouldnt be black tie and nearly £50 inc vat a ticket bloody shambles in my opinion [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif [/img][/quote]
|
|
|
Post by bizzylad on Aug 19, 2011 21:36:15 GMT 1
, the only gripe ive got is the Legends Night it shouldnt be black tie and nearly £50 inc vat a ticket bloody shambles in my opinion [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif [/img][/quote] I disagree with that Bizzy, black tie events add a little class to an evening. I thoroughly enjoy them - to me it's a kind of standard. Once dropped it will be jeans and untucked in shirts i'm not a snob but to me it helps make the evening a little more special. [/quote] Well you come across as one owd lad, we had the 50th season in league anniversary night and the last game at meddah doo both at lord hill there wernt black tie and were both full of fans in colours enjoying a night with there heroes at a reasonable price, the money i spend watching the town is horrendous and cant justify nearly £50 sitting with a load of business types not my idea of fun at all
|
|
|
Post by didntwantosignup on Aug 21, 2011 10:41:23 GMT 1
I disagree with that Bizzy, black tie events add a little class to an evening. I thoroughly enjoy them - to me it's a kind of standard. Once dropped it will be jeans and untucked in shirts i'm not a snob but to me it helps make the evening a little more special. Well you come across as one owd lad, we had the 50th season in league anniversary night and the last game at meddah doo both at lord hill there wernt black tie and were both full of fans in colours enjoying a night with there heroes at a reasonable price, the money i spend watching the town is horrendous and cant justify nearly £50 sitting with a load of business types not my idea of fun at all So don't go then, simples
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 14:15:42 GMT 1
Well you come across as one owd lad, we had the 50th season in league anniversary night and the last game at meddah doo both at lord hill there wernt black tie and were both full of fans in colours enjoying a night with there heroes at a reasonable price, the money i spend watching the town is horrendous and cant justify nearly £50 sitting with a load of business types not my idea of fun at all So don't go then, simples Thats a rather flippant reply. Its obvious that Bizzylad would like to go, but the price etc is a bit too much. I believe that he, over the years, has spent a great deal of time and money supporting the club and its various teams, and would like the chance to join in the celebrations. ( He's probably seen most of those listed play) To stage an event that means some would have to pay for the hire of an evening suit and £50 puts it out of some fans reach, fans who deserve to be there. Gives it a bit of exclusivity which i for one am against. Still i suppose it will be full of those who like to be seen, but unfortunately are not seen at ACCY on a mid winter night when its brass monkey weather. The PHUCKERS.
|
|
|
Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 21, 2011 16:00:22 GMT 1
Its obvious that Bizzylad would like to go, but the price etc is a bit too much. I believe that he, over the years, has spent a great deal of time and money supporting the club and its various teams, and would like the chance to join in the celebrations. ( He's probably seen most of those listed play) That is completely irrelevant though isn't it ? Or are you advocating a price reduction to social events based on match day attendance ? The fact this oik ( he comes across as one) spends time and money is a personal choice. Perhaps a balance could be struck where a couple of games are missed so he can afford to attend the function. Still i suppose it will be full of those who like to be seen, but unfortunately are not seen at ACCY on a mid winter night when its brass monkey weather. The p***kERS. Massively judge-mental and ignorant post, I haven't missed a game at Accy in years - I also own my own dinner....suit further to that what evidence do you have to say that there aren't others ? Been said on many threads "if you can't afford to do something don't do it".... not harsh just facts of life.
|
|
|
Post by bizzylad on Aug 21, 2011 19:01:39 GMT 1
Its obvious that Bizzylad would like to go, but the price etc is a bit too much. I believe that he, over the years, has spent a great deal of time and money supporting the club and its various teams, and would like the chance to join in the celebrations. ( He's probably seen most of those listed play) That is completely irrelevant though isn't it ? Or are you advocating a price reduction to social events based on match day attendance ? The fact this oik ( he comes across as one) spends time and money is a personal choice. Perhaps a balance could be struck where a couple of games are missed so he can afford to attend the function. Still i suppose it will be full of those who like to be seen, but unfortunately are not seen at ACCY on a mid winter night when its brass monkey weather. The p***kERS. Massively judge-mental and ignorant post, I haven't missed a game at Accy in years - I also own my own dinner....suit further to that what evidence do you have to say that there aren't others ? Been said on many threads "if you can't afford to do something don't do it".... not harsh just facts of life. oik , listen ive got nothing against these black tie events and of course there a vital revenue stream for the club, but a event like this should be more accesiable to normal genuene fans or at least a alternitive event at a cheaper price,apoligies for any offence caused.
|
|
|
Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 21, 2011 19:24:54 GMT 1
None at all old bean...
Its a balance Bizzy, these events cost money to put on etc.
Why not approach the Club with a "Fans & Heroes" night, An event that would be say a £1 on the door using large function room upstairs - informal dress. No food (costs !) just a bar.
Go for one a year. ?
|
|
|
Post by bizzylad on Aug 21, 2011 19:30:46 GMT 1
None at all old bean... Its a balance Bizzy, these events cost money to put on etc. Why not approach the Club with a "Fans & Heroes" night, An event that would be say a £1 on the door using large function room upstairs - informal dress. No food (costs !) just a bar. Go for one a year. ? Cracking idea Windsor, agree im lookin at it sentimentially more than than the financial aspect(running costs,etc)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 19:58:24 GMT 1
Its obvious that Bizzylad would like to go, but the price etc is a bit too much. I believe that he, over the years, has spent a great deal of time and money supporting the club and its various teams, and would like the chance to join in the celebrations. ( He's probably seen most of those listed play) That is completely irrelevant though isn't it ? Or are you advocating a price reduction to social events based on match day attendance ? No, not at all, just making an observation. The fact this oik ( he comes across as one) spends time and money is a personal choice. Perhaps a balance could be struck where a couple of games are missed so he can afford to attend the function. This comment is beyond belief. " this oik " If anyone is proved to be judgemental and ignorant , then with a comment like that i think you have proved it is you. From reading the posts of a fellow member you have decided he is an "oik" and then, graciously, given advice on how he can make savings in order to attend the function. Well done, he must feel humble in your prescence. Still i suppose it will be full of those who like to be seen, but unfortunately are not seen at ACCY on a mid winter night when its brass monkey weather. The p***kERS. Massively judge-mental and ignorant post, I haven't missed a game at Accy in years - I also own my own dinner....suit further to that what evidence do you have to say that there aren't others ? Been said on many threads "if you can't afford to do something don't do it".... not harsh just facts of life. Thank you for your comments and financial advice. You seem to be full of your own self importance, "I" have'nt missed a game "I" own my own dinner suit. Well, well done you. This function, to honour the legends of our club, has been voted on by fans from all social backgrounds. It is a celebration of our history, and as such , in my humble opinion, should be priced to enable all to attend. It does not need to be priced at £50 or be made a black tie do. " If you can,t afford something ....blah blah". Sorry, but yours must be the most self satisfied, smug post i have had the misfortune to read, ever.
|
|