teamof79
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Post by teamof79 on Aug 13, 2011 19:09:09 GMT 1
After Turner disposing of Harolds services close season, I braced myself for the arrival of a prolific striker. After the 3 opening games and especially today at Burton, my opinion is that Morgan is no better than Harold. Whilst Morgan wins his fair share of flick ons, his heading in the box is woefull. For a big tall lad he is also extremely fragile and subsequently spends a lot of time on the floor. But the biggest dissapointment for me is his lack of pace, Harold was slow but Morgans no quicker. As a team we are not convincing at the moment, but we are creating chances, but on the evidence so far Morgan doesnt seem to be capable of converting enough of them!
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stfcdp1990
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Post by stfcdp1990 on Aug 13, 2011 19:15:29 GMT 1
Maybe we should play you up front!
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Aug 13, 2011 19:17:17 GMT 1
For such a tall man he wins practically none of the long balls aimed at him from the keeper etc, play it to his feet and he looks far better.
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teamof79
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Post by teamof79 on Aug 13, 2011 19:26:17 GMT 1
Morgan is Turners choice and he is paid to do a job.
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Post by vivasalopia on Aug 13, 2011 19:27:36 GMT 1
After the 3 opening games Don't think you can base an opinion as strong as yours after 3 games. Just wait and see how Morgan and the rest of the team develop.
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teamof79
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Post by teamof79 on Aug 13, 2011 19:28:51 GMT 1
Sorry I forgot I cant be critical Morgan won't be happy
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teamof79
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Post by teamof79 on Aug 13, 2011 19:30:52 GMT 1
Did you go to Burton, were you impressed?
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Post by saloplad93 on Aug 13, 2011 19:34:17 GMT 1
RUBBISH! Hes so much better than Harrold, he certainly wins more in the air, he gives away no where near as many fouls and has more pace and ability in his little toe than harrold will ever have. The Goals will come mark my words
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Post by aldo on Aug 13, 2011 19:38:54 GMT 1
Did you go to Burton, were you impressed? I have to be honest, i dont think you are an adequate replacement for the resident whinger Hope 2010
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Post by vivasalopia on Aug 13, 2011 19:39:32 GMT 1
Did you go to Burton, were you impressed? Went to Burton. He seemed to win a few headers although nobody got on the end of them. He's not really that kind of player anyway, he plays best when the ball is played to his feet, i.e. at Derby. Towards the end of the game I thought he did a very good job at holding up the ball for his teammates and was unlucky not to score.
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teamof79
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Post by teamof79 on Aug 13, 2011 19:40:43 GMT 1
Sorry saloplad93 I must of been watching different games.were you there today?
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 13, 2011 19:44:21 GMT 1
Morgan wins hands down, a definite improvement on Harrold. He probably won't be our 20+ goal a season man but he is quicker and much skillfull than Harrold. Held the ball up superbly against Derby and better in this aspect to. May not be the best header but if we get the ball to his feet and play to his strengths we'll all definitely see him as an improvement on Harrold Wouldn't be surprised to see him score more goals this season than Harrold last season by the turn of the year.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Aug 13, 2011 19:45:16 GMT 1
Marvin Morgan has scored 2 goals in 3 games. In the unlikely event he carries on this woeful run of goals and overall performance you suggest he is on, he will end up this season scoring just 30 goals.
Spare a thought for Manchester City who spent the best part of £40m on Sergio Aguero and he currently has no goals to his name and his team sit a mediocre 14th in the league...
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Post by vivasalopia on Aug 13, 2011 19:50:39 GMT 1
Morgan has played 3 games for Town. Harrold played 35 (according to Wiki ).
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Post by saloplad93 on Aug 13, 2011 20:02:23 GMT 1
Yes i did go to burton and Derby, i missed Plymouth because of holiday but went to all 5 preseason friendlys so have seen him 6 times already and hes better than Harrold of that im sure
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Post by Liam on Aug 13, 2011 20:06:29 GMT 1
Needs the ball to feet to be at his most effective, simple as.
Far too much hoofing today. If we're going to do that then, yes, Harrold is a better bet, but I don't think that's supposed to be plan A.
At the start of last season we were playing it out from the back neatly from goal kicks and working it forward. I'd like to see more of that.
Today Morgan wasn't helped by the fact that Collins, who seemed curiously out of sorts after his good start, was nowhere near him 75% of the time he was challenging for flick ons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 20:28:22 GMT 1
Hes not a target man, we dont really have a target man, if anything from his hold up play today, i think Gornell looks really comfortable with the ball played into him, with his back to goal. Morgan isnt that kind of player, for his size hes ridiculously good with his feet, if you were a defender would you be looking forward to playing against him? I doubt it, just look at the lad. Collins will score goals, no doubts, his composure is pretty poor as a young lad, but with Morgan, Collins, Gornell, Bradders and if we need it Ainsworth, our strikers are very strong for this league.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 13, 2011 20:31:17 GMT 1
The general agreement was Harrold couldn't play with Collins. Morgan and Collins have had a couple of decent games and show a bit of promise as a partnership.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 20:37:35 GMT 1
In my view, Morgan is a lot quicker than Harrold and more skilful. He also has the ability to hold the ball up and play other 's in. Matt H. could hold the ball, but his ball control was not the best. As for his heading ability i can recall MH scoring maybe 1 goal with his head, from close in. Morgan has already scored a goal with his head (Derby) and has come close on a few occassions. MH, although a big lad was not a good header of the ball! For me MH OR MM. No problem, MM every time.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 13, 2011 21:00:16 GMT 1
At this stage there is litter difference in there play and contribution... personal view... despite todays miss near the end Morgan does pose more of a goal threat.
Personally when comparing players Gornell and Harrold is the better comparision.... and Gornell his goal very well today...
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Aug 13, 2011 21:01:41 GMT 1
The more important poser is Collins or Gornell? Has to be Gornell every time.
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Post by poolieshrew on Aug 13, 2011 21:06:16 GMT 1
After Turner disposing of Harolds services close season, I braced myself for the arrival of a prolific striker. After the 3 opening games and especially today at Burton, my opinion is that Morgan is no better than Harold. Whilst Morgan wins his fair share of flick ons, his heading in the box is woefull. For a big tall lad he is also extremely fragile and subsequently spends a lot of time on the floor. But the biggest dissapointment for me is his lack of pace, Harold was slow but Morgans no quicker. As a team we are not convincing at the moment, but we are creating chances, but on the evidence so far Morgan doesnt seem to be capable of converting enough of them! What exactly is it you want from a lg 2 striker can i ask? When the ball was delivered to his feet today he was by far the best player on the pitch.Some of his link play is sublime. Spent a lot of time on the ground because they couldnt handle him...hence the yellow cards dished out for two of the challenges, a particularly negative observation that would make me question the validity of some of your other points. Got through a hell of a lot of work so maybe did lack a burst of speed towards the end but hes not slow just as much as Harrold was not quick. Won more than his fair share of flicks dont know how anyone can say otherwise and all without the freekicks Harrold would give away every game. Granted he should of notched 2nd half it was a great chance but 3 in 3 a return i would take everyday of the week so can i suggest if you want to start a negative thread start it on the midfield dept who were truly hopeless today and continue to prove our achillies heel.With decent service into his feet rather than some of the hopefull punts today he will prove a fantastic aquisition.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 13, 2011 21:17:31 GMT 1
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 13, 2011 21:47:47 GMT 1
dont rate him as of yet. im be more of a fan of a Collins/Gornell partnership on what ive seen. i rate collins very highly, and gornells looked outstanding so far. and morgan and harrold aren't at all similar. morgan seems to be on the ground whinging half the time, and seems weak and clumsy. harrold was strong and got on with it.
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Post by vivasalopia on Aug 13, 2011 21:58:50 GMT 1
dont rate him as of yet. im be more of a fan of a Collins/Gornell partnership on what ive seen. i rate collins very highly, and gornells looked outstanding so far. and morgan and harrold aren't at all similar. morgan seems to be on the ground whinging half the time, and seems weak and clumsy. harrold was strong and got on with it. I think Morgan had a much better game than Collins today. Personally, I'd start with Morgan/Gornell on tuesday as that looked good today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 22:01:48 GMT 1
The more important poser is Collins or Gornell? Has to be Gornell every time. Yes, I think it is a case of Morgan and one other at the moment. Not seen much of Gornell but that was a cracking finish today.
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Post by WorcesterShrew on Aug 13, 2011 22:08:47 GMT 1
I think Morgan's a class act. Far superior to Harrold and will be a big asset to us. Your right about his heading in the box being woeful, he only scored with his head from a corner on tuesday, something we failed to do most of last season and have been complaining about. Also I would of said he was very strong and hard to knock of the ball for a big, lanky guy.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 13, 2011 22:10:07 GMT 1
dont rate him as of yet. im be more of a fan of a Collins/Gornell partnership on what ive seen. i rate collins very highly, and gornells looked outstanding so far. and morgan and harrold aren't at all similar. morgan seems to be on the ground whinging half the time, and seems weak and clumsy. harrold was strong and got on with it. I think Morgan had a much better game than Collins today. Personally, I'd start with Morgan/Gornell on tuesday as that looked good today. nah im not so sure. I think collins on his night is the best player we've got. he's strong, quick powerful and gets goals. morgan gets goals but also misses chance after chance, and also spends a fair while lying down whinging. but i think gornell has to be started on tuesday, he's taken the chances GTs given him. nothing else he could have done. wonderful goal, no pace on the cross whatsoever, generated it all himself and great placement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 0:01:07 GMT 1
Morgan is very good, Harrold was just good, i like both but from what i saw Morgan was a free and we got money so if hes no better weve made a profit
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Post by mysticmurray on Aug 14, 2011 10:47:05 GMT 1
Bought a new kettle yesterday. After 30 seconds the water still hadn't boiled so I smashed it.
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