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Post by heavenlyshrew on Apr 16, 2011 20:29:54 GMT 1
I think 7 points will see us get promoted,if we can win our 2 home games i think we will be almost there.A draw or win in 1 of the away games will be a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 20:35:53 GMT 1
Not so optomistic myself. I feel that 9 points will guarantee promotion, 7-8 points is noisy buttocks time.
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Post by eclipsechaser on Apr 16, 2011 22:44:49 GMT 1
We might need as little as 6 and as many as 12 .
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Post by theyesman on Apr 16, 2011 22:55:59 GMT 1
Is it now safe to presume we have a play off spot, if nothing else?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 16, 2011 23:16:42 GMT 1
Is it now safe to presume we have a play off spot, if nothing else? No definitely not. But we are not far off! As for automatic, I still think 8-9 points is needed. And I think Bury's game against Wycombe may still be vital for us, but in order to catch Wycombe not Bury, which we had thought it might. Every game a cup final now, quite literally.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 16, 2011 23:54:27 GMT 1
9 points will do it I feel - it is definately within our capabilities IF we don't cock it up with some stupid result
Next two games over Easter are massive IMO
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Post by lionshrew on Apr 17, 2011 1:22:38 GMT 1
Feel 9 points is just about right.
I feel we have to win 3 of our next 4 matches.
One things for sure next Saturday is massive.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Apr 17, 2011 8:20:34 GMT 1
Wycombe have to travel to torquay and bury so I think they'll be pleased with 7 points from their last 4. Oh for that 'equaliser' at Greenhous Meadow not to have counted - had that not been given I think 2 more wins from here would be enough. As it stands, I think 8 points will be enough and actually think 7 might sneak it - 4 points from the next two is a must and sets us up nicely for cheltenham, who'll have nothing to play for.
One way or another I expect there to be something to play for against Oxford so I'll be back and should be a bumper crowd and hopefully a decent atmosphere
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 17, 2011 20:48:24 GMT 1
As things stand, accepting that Chesterfield are already as good as up, Bury have a 4 point advantage over us, and a far superior goal difference, with 4 games remaining. Of the chasing pack, Torquay, Stevenage, Gillingham and Accrington each have 65 points, meaning that the maximum they can achieve is 77 points. As we already have 69, 3 wins would guarantee that we would finish above all of them, with 78. The one stumbling block could be that Torquay's appeal is successful and they regain the point they had deducted. That leaves Wycombe who are currently 1 point ahead of us, but have to play Bury and Torquay. If they drop 4 points from these games ( 2 draws or even better a draw and a defeat ), then they would only be able to attain 77 points maximum. So, we need 3 wins, and Wycombe to drop 4 points at least.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 17, 2011 21:13:11 GMT 1
i think we need to name a urinal at the ground after that lino v wycombe
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 0:42:48 GMT 1
I don't think we'll catch Bury, I'm hoping for a Bury win v Wycombe and we'll go up in 3rd. A trip to Torquay is no easy game either, as we're aware of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 7:36:11 GMT 1
No-one think Hereford on Saturday is going to be a lot tougher than the last meeting? A real potential banana skin for us if we aren't on top top form... nervous stuff
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Post by shrewblue on Apr 18, 2011 8:47:06 GMT 1
I think 4 pts from this coming weekend would be brilliant and more outstanding! Setting us up nicely for the last two games away at Cheltenham and Home to Oxford a few more twists and turns to come yet though I suspect
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Post by shrew54 on Apr 18, 2011 9:22:00 GMT 1
As said the next two games are vital! Hairyfud have gone 4 games without conceding a goal since losing 4-0 at Accy. Accy haven't lost since a 3-1 defeat at Gillingham (9 games unbeaten) Tough weekend for us, but hopefully we've got the squad to get at least 4 points. C'mon Salop Squeaky bum time
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Post by blue and ambar on Apr 18, 2011 12:10:27 GMT 1
As said the next two games are vital! Hairyfud have gone 4 games without conceding a goal since losing 4-0 at Accy. Accy haven't lost since a 3-1 defeat at Gillingham (9 games unbeaten) Tough weekend for us, but hopefully we've got the squad to get at least 4 points. C'mon Salop Squeaky bum time The flip side of that is they are due a defeat. We have had one just last week. Both games of course will still be tough. With the teams around us dropping points saturday it does give us a better chance than before they kicked off. I still think 78 points will proberly be about right. The teams below us can get 77 max and I would be suprised if Torquay and Bury lose to Wycombe at home.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 18, 2011 12:24:06 GMT 1
It's worth noting Andy Scott's comments that Rotherham apparantly absolutely battered Hereford and it just wouldn't go in.
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Post by mrbunny on Apr 18, 2011 15:07:05 GMT 1
I think we'll get 7 points and i am not sure that is enough to go up with. I hope so but wouldn't bank on it.
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Post by limacharli on Apr 18, 2011 16:16:19 GMT 1
The good thing about playing Hairyfud is they cant play Lesbo and as for naming the urinal I personally wiggle me worth every time I visit
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Post by keithyshrew25 on Apr 18, 2011 20:32:02 GMT 1
I think we need 10 points to go up, so no losses from now on please!
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Post by froggy on Apr 18, 2011 21:19:39 GMT 1
We're so fortunate that Wycombe have Torquay and Bury to play. They should hopefully lose both or draw one. I see Cheltenham as the only certain win for us in our remaining 4 fixtures, Hereford will do everything to make us lose points, Accrington are a decent side and Oxford will be fighting to get in the play offs. I can see it coming down to May 7th... Emotions running high!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 19, 2011 0:27:11 GMT 1
We're so fortunate that Wycombe have Torquay and Bury to play. They should hopefully lose both or draw one. And what if they draw with Torquay and beat Bury
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 19, 2011 0:28:26 GMT 1
and Oxford will be fighting to get in the play offs. I can see it coming down to May 7th... Emotions running high! Oxford will have nothing to play for come May 7th beleive me - it will be just down to how much we want to / have to do that day
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Apr 19, 2011 8:15:29 GMT 1
[quote Oxford will have nothing to play for come May 7th beleive me - it will be just down to how much we want to / have to do that day[/quote]
spot on - they're seven points of the play offs with 4 games to go and 3 teams between them and 7th - it's simply not going to happen that they'll have anything to play for.
Likewise - Cheltenham have 7 points between them and relegation. Whilst it's still mathematical it's equally inconceivable that all the 6 teams between them and 23rd place with have overhauled them in the next two games so also think they'll have nothing to play for.
As for our other two games, Hereford is a local derby and our trickiest remaining game in my opinion. Accrington's away form is poor so as posted above it really is just a case of how much we want it. I certainly think we'll start at 15:00 on 7th May with the play offs in the bag and some prospect of automatic. Hopefully we'll be ahead of Wycombe on goal difference with it therefore being in our own hands.
exciting times
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Post by blue and ambar on Apr 19, 2011 10:38:59 GMT 1
We're so fortunate that Wycombe have Torquay and Bury to play. They should hopefully lose both or draw one. And what if they draw with Torquay and beat Bury If Stevenage and Chesterfield also beat Bury at home and we win 3 from 4, no problem. Would rather Wycombe lose it thou.
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Post by foxyloxy on Apr 19, 2011 11:21:07 GMT 1
It's worth noting Andy Scott's comments that Rotherham apparantly absolutely battered Hereford and it just wouldn't go in. Its worth noting that game was by all accounts played on one of the worst league pitches in a while, and against a team (R'ham) willing to thump the ball up to their striker time and time again. If Turnip has indeed transformed you Sloppies from long ball merchants into a team willing to pass it along the deck, then Saturday is going to be a very good match indeed!
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Post by Liam on Apr 19, 2011 14:08:28 GMT 1
spot on - they're seven points of the play offs with 4 games to go and 3 teams between them and 7th - it's simply not going to happen that they'll have anything to play for. Likewise - Cheltenham have 7 points between them and relegation. Whilst it's still mathematical it's equally inconceivable that all the 6 teams between them and 23rd place with have overhauled them in the next two games so also think they'll have nothing to play for. As for our other two games, Hereford is a local derby and our trickiest remaining game in my opinion. Accrington's away form is poor so as posted above it really is just a case of how much we want it. I certainly think we'll start at 15:00 on 7th May with the play offs in the bag and some prospect of automatic. Hopefully we'll be ahead of Wycombe on goal difference with it therefore being in our own hands. exciting times Spot on with that analysis, imho. Hereford looks like the biggest banana skin to me - they'll really want to put one over on us and they've picked up a bit of late. Accrington are clearly decent and their overall form can't be ignored, but their away form is poor. In fact, with just 3 wins away all season, it's nearly as bad as ours was in the season we just sneaked into the play-offs. They've got where they are by winning at home and turning away defeats into draws. However, their result at home to a stuttering Oxford side was a serious setback, as they just aren't winning away. That's not to say they can't beat us, but I reckon they'll escape from GM with a draw at best. Cheltenham are a poor side and will have nothing to play for. That one is must-win - no excuses. That leaves Oxford on the last day. They've dropped off recently and unless they win their next 3 and get favourable results elsewhere, they'll be nothing more than a mid-table side playing out a meaningless end of term fixture.
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Post by eggyshrew on Apr 19, 2011 15:09:58 GMT 1
It aint a meaningless fixture as they will want to stop us from going up. Port Vale last year was not meaningless as we did not want them to achieve a play off spot. James Contstable will have a point to prove im sure.
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Post by blue and ambar on Apr 19, 2011 16:06:33 GMT 1
It aint a meaningless fixture as they will want to stop us from going up. Port Vale last year was not meaningless as we did not want them to achieve a play off spot. James Contstable will have a point to prove im sure. I don't think it will be meaningless for them. Every team wants to win even if there is nothing at stake, but I would much rather play a team who have only pride to play for than a team that needs to win to extend their season. Also, accepted about James Constable but I doubt the Oxford fans will be as bothered about us as we are about Vale.
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Post by Liam on Apr 19, 2011 17:00:47 GMT 1
It aint a meaningless fixture as they will want to stop us from going up. Port Vale last year was not meaningless as we did not want them to achieve a play off spot. James Contstable will have a point to prove im sure. I don't think it will be meaningless for them. Every team wants to win even if there is nothing at stake, but I would much rather play a team who have only pride to play for than a team that needs to win to extend their season. Also, accepted about James Constable but I doubt the Oxford fans will be as bothered about us as we are about Vale. Fair enough, 'meaningless' is too strong a word - what's been said here probably sums it up better. What I mean is, Oxford will have nothing to play for but professional pride and possibly a contract or two. We'll have both of those PLUS the huge added incentive of playing for a play-off place minimum. We should be the more fired up of the two for that game, no question.
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Post by Fingers on Apr 19, 2011 17:35:10 GMT 1
Well, it could be meaningless if we are 4 points ahead of 5th and 4 points behind 3rd. What would we have to play for?
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