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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 12:31:56 GMT 1
Highest price i have ever paid for a litre of petrol, up about 5p a litre in the last month , over 10p a litre more since "the motorists friend" came to power. How things can change eh. interesting to note, that despite tory claims to be the motorists friend, the 10p per litre increase over the last month compares to 40p under Labour during the preceding 10 years, up from 80p a litre in 2000 to £1.20 in april 2010. www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuel/fuel-price-archive.htmlNever mind, we can all afford it cant we?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 22, 2011 12:37:49 GMT 1
Its ridiculous. Why is it carrying on going up and up!? How can it be justified??
How long is it going to be before the current government looses power - can they or are they tied in for a period?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 12:42:44 GMT 1
You're lucky. Around here even Tesco are charging 133p which is cheaper than all others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 12:46:02 GMT 1
i think this was one of the, shall we say, contentious issues when the condems came to power. i think the tories made some kind of rule that a government could not be ousted unless x number of mps voted for it. the x, i think, that the tories chose meant that a substantial number of tory mps would need to vote against there own party as well as the rest, thus making it almost impossible to win a no confidence vote, and trigger a general election.
so we have another 4 years of this s**t.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 22, 2011 12:46:48 GMT 1
That Dispatches programme last night on the state of rail travel in England were quite an eye opener as well. Not as if you could say they are encouraging folk to leave the car at home either with what you have to put up with on the trains... Sure someone somewhere is doing very well out of all this though...
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 22, 2011 12:46:57 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 12:54:53 GMT 1
Have been working over in East Anglia recently and diesel prices at many garages along the A14/A11 are up around £1.43 per litre.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 22, 2011 13:05:14 GMT 1
Doesn't make me want to drive. think i'll stick to buses, trains and walking!
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Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 22, 2011 13:13:39 GMT 1
i think this was one of the, shall we say, contentious issues when the condems came to power. i think the tories made some kind of rule that a government could not be ousted unless x number of mps voted for it. the x, i think, that the tories chose meant that a substantial number of tory mps would need to vote against there own party as well as the rest, thus making it almost impossible to win a no confidence vote, and trigger a general election. so we have another 4 years of this s**t. Doh! I wondered what would happen if the Libdems and torries had a major falling out, could to coallition collapse or would they just have to get on with it. Thing is if they did, all the changes they're proposing / put in progress regarding the nhs being destroyed would be on hold
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 22, 2011 13:13:40 GMT 1
£1.39 for diesel in Codsall this morning
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Post by swissshrew on Mar 22, 2011 13:14:27 GMT 1
interesting football related thread
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 13:25:29 GMT 1
interesting football related thread w****r
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 13:27:44 GMT 1
Arguing that you can control the cost of petrol is like saying you can end boom and bust in the UK - ultimately, it's not something you have a great deal of control over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 14:21:12 GMT 1
Arguing that you can control the cost of petrol is like saying you can end boom and bust in the UK - ultimately, it's not something you have a great deal of control over. indeed Ant, so saying you would before the election, knowing full well you cant, is nothing less than an out right lie. i would also like to point out that nobody took that stance when the last government where in power. lots of hum drum talk about stealth taxes ect. now the proverbial shoe is on the other foot, you are all making excuses and pointing out that there is nothing the goverment can do about it. why didnt you say that during the previous 10 years? one last point if i may, this government deliberately and knowingly increased the vat on petrol and deisel by 2.5% a couple of months back. That they did have control over. although im sure osbourne will announce tomorrow in a big fan fair of rapture, that the planned fuel duty rise for next month has been put on hold. they put prices up by 10p a litre in 12 months then expect us to cheer when they cancel a further rise "recognising the pressure the hard pressed motorist is under" you heard it here first.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 22, 2011 14:22:22 GMT 1
we laugh at the french but they would have sorted it by now
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Post by grinfish on Mar 22, 2011 14:24:23 GMT 1
Doesn't make me want to drive. think i'll stick to buses, trains and walking!
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Post by venceremos on Mar 22, 2011 14:31:33 GMT 1
Have been working over in East Anglia recently and diesel prices at many garages along the A14/A11 are up around £1.43 per litre. That's what I paid in Chester this weekend.
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Post by Jonah on Mar 22, 2011 14:59:08 GMT 1
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 22, 2011 15:02:49 GMT 1
We were supposed to going down to visit friends in Devon this weekend, but with the price of fuel I don't think we can afford it.
Osbourne must be rubbing his hands together when the price of crude oil goes up and he can get an extra few million in VAT. Of course he can afford to let the 1p rise in duty slide, with the extra VAT he's getting that penny is a drop in the ocean.
Time for another fuel protest?
As for getting shot of this bunch of crooks (who are by the way, no better or worse than the last bunch of crooks) is nigh on impossible, but if the LibDems pull out of the coallition there won't be a single law or budget passed, unless all the bit part players suck up to the Tories to get a few concessions. Not that every politian of whatever persuasion is a self-serving scumbag, it just comes across like that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 15:06:02 GMT 1
Arguing that you can control the cost of petrol is like saying you can end boom and bust in the UK - ultimately, it's not something you have a great deal of control over. indeed Ant, so saying you would before the election, knowing full well you cant, is nothing less than an out right lie. i would also like to point out that nobody took that stance when the last government where in power. lots of hum drum talk about stealth taxes ect. now the proverbial shoe is on the other foot, you are all making excuses and pointing out that there is nothing the goverment can do about it. why didnt you say that during the previous 10 years? Who is 'all' in the above Matron? Makes you sound as though you think the World is against you I agree that both parties have made promises they can't keep, be it on the cost of petrol or 'boom and bust'.
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 22, 2011 15:08:11 GMT 1
Arguing that you can control the cost of petrol is like saying you can end boom and bust in the UK - ultimately, it's not something you have a great deal of control over. agree with that- you can only marginally affect price of petrol In this economic climate nobody is going to cut tax on it If they did I suspect would simply lead indirectly to a rise in interest rates- lose lose situation
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 15:30:42 GMT 1
Got a fair way to go to catch your boys Matron but lets face it jonah, your boys are giving it a damn good shot. after only 12 months your boys have increased petrol prices by a quarter of what "my boys" did in 10 years. you must be proud Ant, you know full well what i mean.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 22, 2011 15:50:02 GMT 1
With petrol at £1.26 a litre the government takes a cut of 80.1p of that
To say the government can't control oil prices is a little bit inconsistent as the actual cost of the petrol is only about 41.8p per litre, nearly half the government's cut.
Add in we pay fuel duty, then VAT, and the cost of VAT is on the cost of the fuel AND the duty, so they add 20% ONTO the duty!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 16:00:21 GMT 1
I suspect you are referring to the three or four of B&A's more vocal Tory supporters?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 22, 2011 16:06:19 GMT 1
Its certinly reached the point (Like Neilsalop) where trips and journeys i took for granted are now something we have to really think about if we can afford it... Luckly I have not been able to attend many away games over the last 3 months, and thats saved me a chunk... in reality, if the prices stay high, I will only be attending away games when the ASFC have a game and I can fill the car... other than that, I can justify it to the family. God im even going to use a train for the first time in years in a few weeks to go to London rather than drive just to save a few quid! Times are hard
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 22, 2011 16:15:53 GMT 1
Scandalous Pab...these nasty Condems...can't think why they got voted in when everything was so wonderful under the last lot... Your post of months past was more sound, why are we not seeing protests as fuel is higher now than when protested ? Maybe the fact of we are deep in the mire is making people tolerate then current situation ?
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Post by Jonah on Mar 22, 2011 16:29:03 GMT 1
Matron I am not sure if its memory loss or Rose tinted glasses syndrome you are suffering from but I am sure you can find a doctor to check you over Wasn't one of the last increases inherited from the last lot?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 16:32:29 GMT 1
Scandalous Pab...these nasty Condems...can't think why they got voted in when everything was so wonderful under the last lot... ? Snipe all you like Stu, but i some how suspect people are slowly but surely starting to realise just how true that statement is, yourself included. Whats happening now should not be confused with balancing the books, or keeping britain solvent, or any other of the scare mongering sound bites the condems come up with, its purely and simply tory economics and right wing ideology.
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Post by neilsalop on Mar 22, 2011 16:37:32 GMT 1
Just for comparisons sake in the US the current price is around $3.40 - £3.50 per (US) gallon, which is around 57p-60p a litre for regular unleaded. The highest it's been over there recently was in 2008 when it reached around $4.50, but since then has stabilised at the $3.00 to $3.50 mark. Personally I can't remamber the last time our petrol price went down, but I'll happily be reminded.
Of course over there they accept that public transport isn't a very practical choice for most people, whereas over here it is even less so, but the numpties that run the country can't see it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 16:39:38 GMT 1
Matron I am not sure if its memory loss or Rose tinted glasses syndrome you are suffering from but I am sure you can find a doctor to check you over Wasn't one of the last increases inherited from the last lot? indeed, and i believe the next one is as well apparently yes they where built in to Labours economic forecasts, Labour though, lost the election and the tories got in, in no small part im sure because of the promises and rhetoric they spouted about being the motorists friend, capping fuel costs ect. 10p per litre extra, one budget and a spending review down the line and apparently we are still following Labours economic policy:D So why havent the tories dropped these increases just like they have dropped all the other Labour spending plans? You know as well as i do that they could, they just dont want to.
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