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Post by africanshrew on Mar 25, 2011 9:22:11 GMT 1
Nasty scenes these but lets remember Shrewsbury, sadly, has it's idiots and over the years I'm heard plenty of racial abuse from Town fans which has been conveniently ignored by stewards and the club. On racism STFC have talked the talk but never walked the walk. The line seems to be put a note in the programme or get a kid to wave a flag before kick-off but pretend you don't hear what is said by the tiny minority to may also happen to spend a fair bit if cash supporting the Town. I'm not sure you should be able to buy the right to be a racist myself, but there you go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 14:07:35 GMT 1
We have the same level of dross sitting in 18/19 Care to elaborate or just spouting ? Just spouting the truth.... I have sat there I have heard the crap, the racism & abusive rubbish that is bounded about. Not many fans in 18/19 - quite a few looking for trouble though.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 25, 2011 16:00:14 GMT 1
who give you the right to say weather an individual in 18/19 is a fan or a trouble maker??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 16:02:40 GMT 1
who give you the right to say weather an individual in 18/19 is a fan or a trouble maker?? He has every right in the world to state it, like I will say that some are trouble making fans!! just cos its stated, does it make it the truth?? These could also be quoted as articles 9 and 10 of the human rights act!! soo indeed the answer to your original question about who gave him the right to say, well the law is the answer!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 16:18:28 GMT 1
who give you the right to say weather an individual in 18/19 is a fan or a trouble maker?? He has every right in the world to state it, like I will say that some are trouble making fans!! just cos its stated, does it make it the truth?? These could also be quoted as articles 9 and 10 of the human rights act!! soo indeed the answer to your original question about who gave him the right to say, well the law is the answer!! Awesome answer!
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Post by champagneprince on Mar 25, 2011 16:46:12 GMT 1
Just spouting the truth.... I have sat there I have heard the cr@p, the racism & abusive rubbish that is bounded about. Not many fans in 18/19 - quite a few looking for trouble though. Not sure what you mean by 'crap' so i'll stick to racism, abuse and looking for trouble. I sit in 18 and I hear virtually zero racism. I would like it to be nil and one day we might get there but for now the amount of racism I hear is on par with the rest of the ground and indeed much less than i've heard or heard reported at many other clubs. In our first season at the new ground we didn't buy a season ticket we decided to find the place we liked best and then commit to buying one in the following season. Therefore we sat in most of the stands and blocks and I must say that I have heard no more racism in 18 than any of those blocks or indeed any of the pubs where fans congregate before or after the game. You may have had a bad experience at the times you were there but in my experience I can say that on a regular basis racism is actually virtually zero in 18 (as it is in the rest of the ground). On the subject of 'looking for trouble' if any 'fan' was looking for trouble they could find it easy. But strangely I see the same fans week in, week out. None of them seem to have got into any trouble ! In fact when I have witnessed trouble outside the ground (again very rare) I don't recognise those people as people I see in 18. I haven't witnessed any trouble in the ground other than a few on the pitch, both of which I believe weren't regular Town fans, one was an oil rigger on his few weeks off ! As for actually fighting inside the ground i've witnessed zero. On the subject of abuse (which I assume you mean verbal abuse), I have again witnessed no more or less in 18 than elsewhere in the ground. Abuse against the officials - the same, abuse against our own fans for singing/not singing - the same, abuse against our players for not performing - the same. Again, my view is that this is on a par, in fact possibly lower, than other clubs. I am happy to sit in 18 and disagree with your opinion and I do so based upon being a regular who is very aware of these matters but just doesn't see them at the level you seem to have portrayed. Block 18 is no more racist, abusive or trouble making than any other block in the stadium. If it was I wouldn't be sitting there and neither would any of my friends.
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Post by elmundo on Mar 25, 2011 17:42:26 GMT 1
I love it how these types of threads become quite tribal.
My block is awesome, yours is rubbish and we are the best!
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Post by hertfordshrew on Mar 25, 2011 18:46:37 GMT 1
Disgusting behaviour. QPR might get a points deduction for what? A third party agent? And I bet they take no action on this. It just goes to show that money is more important to the people upstairs than punishing teams whose fans that take it way too far.
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