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Post by southshropblue on Mar 9, 2011 8:34:43 GMT 1
We had quite a few corners last night and some free kicks we seem to make very little of them Under GP we only ever seemed to score this way under GT we rarely do
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Post by shrew4life on Mar 9, 2011 9:21:01 GMT 1
I've said this before. Taylor cant take a decent corner, he doesn't cross it in he floats the ball in which is useless tbh and every time we have a free kick we never ever seem to cross the ball deep into the box, we always hit it to the outskirts which causes no problems to the opposition.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 9, 2011 10:50:58 GMT 1
I thought Wroe was supposed to be a bit of a set piece taker or was that just penalties?
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Post by starlight on Mar 9, 2011 10:54:56 GMT 1
I've said this before. Taylor cant take a decent corner, he doesn't cross it in he floats the ball in which is useless tbh and every time we have a free kick we never ever seem to cross the ball deep into the box, we always hit it to the outskirts which causes no problems to the opposition. What. Taylor takes a good corner, we're just not winning the headers.
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Post by shrew4life on Mar 9, 2011 11:05:39 GMT 1
He floats the ball in, doesnt look like he's aiming for anyone it's just kind of hit and hope. The problem with his crosses is that anyone who wins the header has to put a lot of power onto the ball for it to be a threat. I havent seen other teams cross like that from a corner and I can see why.
We really need to sort our set pieces out!
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Post by starlight on Mar 9, 2011 11:15:40 GMT 1
He doesn't float the ball in, he hits it with power. Our players just need to get in there. With the pace he puts on the ball you only need to direct the ball towards the goal. Have another look
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 9, 2011 11:18:27 GMT 1
I can recall one whilst listening that caused some issues for the Vale defense, a short corner then a delivery to the back post? Apart from that the lads commentating didn’t really suggest we caused them problems from dead balls. Its frustrating. As said above, we had loads of opportunities at set pieces and nothing. Kept thinking ‘this is the one’ but nowt… Time to bring the corner to the near post for a flick on...
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Post by theyesman on Mar 9, 2011 11:44:12 GMT 1
Set pieces are quite frankly embarrassing! We can't throw a ball to feet, freekicks usually float into the keepers arms, same with corners. The amount of time we wasted last night waiting for an option off a throwing was frustrating to watch. Ainsworth one corner last night and it was the best of the lot. Why he's not our normal taker i don't know, he was at the start of the season and should be now.
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Post by shrew4life on Mar 9, 2011 12:41:43 GMT 1
He doesn't float the ball in, he hits it with power. Our players just need to get in there. With the pace he puts on the ball you only need to direct the ball towards the goal. Have another look Sorry but that's just not power. He just dinks it high somewhere in the box, there's no way he's aiming for an actual player. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
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Post by starlight on Mar 9, 2011 12:55:51 GMT 1
Yep
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 9, 2011 13:07:53 GMT 1
To befair taylor put in some decent corners last night
Sherriff should have scored at 2-2 it was a guilt edged chance!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 9, 2011 13:09:25 GMT 1
Also how many times did we hit a corner in to the box last night that the keeper caught comfortabley....I cant recall any?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 9, 2011 14:18:29 GMT 1
Noticed it last night from sitting in block 1, so i particularly got to see the right side of the team in the first half, but both Grandison and Taylor played well and put in several what should have been good balls - however, there wasnt anyone to get on them.
The two lads just needed to have a look up and assess their options before putting in the balls. Sometimes it's not about the quality of the balls they put in, but just having a look in the first place.
By the way, strikes me that Town should be putting some from their coaching team in those kind of positions (i.e. block 1, block 19 when we're attacking the North Stand, and the equivelent when we're attacking the South), as you see a lot more of the movement on the wings, the crosses, the movement in the box etc than you do from the more central positions.
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Post by scooter on Mar 9, 2011 14:23:52 GMT 1
As Stutty said, our best corner was the short one in the second half, as the cross that eventually came in caused them a real problem
Set pieces have been a disappointment this season - and we conceded to one again
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Post by Pilch on Mar 9, 2011 14:35:36 GMT 1
taylors corners remind me of paul maguires come on turner, you know all about what should happen next
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2011 14:40:33 GMT 1
To befair taylor put in some decent corners last night Sherriff should have scored at 2-2 it was a guilt edged chance! Spot on.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 9, 2011 15:48:15 GMT 1
As long as a corner beats the first man and doesn't go straight to the keeper you've always got a chance. Jon Taylor's nearly always beat the first man and very fairly are caught by the keeper.
I'd also question Sharps and Sherriff. Very often they get their head to the ball attacking set pieces, but their accuracy with their headers is by and large, poor.
Port Vale showed the benefits of being strong attacking set pieces last night, they hardly even threatened from open play
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Post by Pilch on Mar 9, 2011 16:06:30 GMT 1
we need to waste a player who just hinders the keeper
when i played in goal i nearly always got something on corners when i had the freedom to come out i used to have to drag in a player to try to prevent the hindered hindering me lol its an unwanted distraction and so many teams do it these days
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 9, 2011 16:07:55 GMT 1
we need to waste a player who just hinders the keeper when i played in goal i nearly always got something on corners when i had the freedom to come out i used to have to drag in a player to try to prevent the hindered hindering me lol its an unwanted distraction and so many teams do it these days Ainsworth was doing it a bit in the second half to be fair
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Post by oranjemob on Mar 9, 2011 16:26:40 GMT 1
I don't think the taking of the corners is a problem, it's just that no one really seems to attack them with intent.
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Post by eclipsechaser on Mar 9, 2011 18:01:52 GMT 1
Our set pieces are pretty rubbish . I never get the sense of ' we are going to score from this ! ' when we get free kicks or corners . Taylor just lobs the ball in from the corner and it is a 50/50 chance , as for a goal straight from a free kick , when was the last time we scored one of those ? One of Gary Peters plus points was his ability to get the team to be extremely effective at set pieces with everyone knowing what they had to do and and what would happen . Can we ask him for help maybe one afternoon every week . I'm sure he would be pleased to help . Until something is done we will continue to be totally ineffective with set pieces .
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Post by ferkle94 on Mar 9, 2011 18:22:52 GMT 1
Taylor just lobs the ball in from the corner and it is a 50/50 chance , as for a goal straight from a free kick , when was the last time we scored one of those ? Lewis neal v aldershot i think
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Post by eclipsechaser on Mar 9, 2011 18:32:25 GMT 1
Only one in a season ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 16:35:23 GMT 1
I think it's clear we are the worst team at set pieces in the league.
Regarding throw ins, I think Grandison has been fantastic since he joined but, when he takes a short or quick throw, he floats/loops the ball and therefore it takes an extra second for the ball to reach a teammate. Anyone else noticed this?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 17:25:43 GMT 1
Im still wondering how we have only had 1 penalty, although, i dont remember a huge amount of times we have seriously shouted for a blatent penalty which wasnt given, strange, maybe too honest? Holt adn Davies went to ground very easily, thinking about it now we should have had a penalty against Hereford (McIntyre), cant think of many other penalty shouts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 17:31:44 GMT 1
This actually worries more than it should,
this has been a problem all season, and probably since Ben Davies left did we have anyone who was half decent at taking set pieces, I wouldn't mind, but the one penalty we've had this year we've missed also,
who is the best 'dead ball' specialist in the squad right now? - Steve Leslie possibly? - he's not getting in the starting eleven at the moment, but these guys are professionals surely one of them can step up and do something effective?
I'm not expecting a Beckham type delivery 100% of the time, this is league 2 football, but we must surely make a lot more from these opportunities,
also is there anyone (particularly out wide) with a decent throw also? the last I remember were Exodus Geohoghan, Jake Simpson and David Hunt, hmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 17:36:47 GMT 1
This actually worries more than it should, this has been a problem all season, and probably since Ben Davies left did we have anyone who was half decent at taking set pieces, I wouldn't mind, but the one penalty we've had this year we've missed also, who is the best 'dead ball' specialist in the squad right now? - Steve Leslie possibly? - he's not getting in the starting eleven at the moment, but these guys are professionals surely one of them can step up and do something effective? I'm not expecting a Beckham type delivery 100% of the time, this is league 2 football, but we must surely make a lot more from these opportunities, also is there anyone (particularly out wide) with a decent throw also? the last I remember were Exodus Geohoghan, Jake Simpson and David Hunt, hmmmm Not too bothered about the throws really, i would rather them just give it short, unless its near full time and we want to mix it up a bit. Scoring directly from free kicks is nice of course, but not essential, the lack of quality from corners and free kicks which aren't shots is what is dissapointing, but sometimes the problem is players not attacking the ball rather then just the delivery.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 10, 2011 17:38:33 GMT 1
We dont take long throws because were trying to play more football... I dont have a problem with that... Grandison to Taylor works well, Taylor is great at holding the ball up with a first toutch... must be a nightmare for full backs you never know what them two are going to do!
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Post by onthetrain92 on Mar 10, 2011 17:42:39 GMT 1
I think the club should re-employ GP as a set pieces manager
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 18:02:37 GMT 1
I thought Simpsons set peices were better then Peters, the win at home to Gillingham was mainly, if not all set peices. During the season Jacko and Coughlan got a few headers, Holt with the penalties and Davies with the free kicks, that was probably more due to the players we had rather the who was in charge.
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